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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMacC View Post
    You dont need to worry about cardio until you are in your late 20's. Why would you waste some of the easiest gains in your life (teen years) on cardio. Bulk up, doesnt matter if you get fat. Fat can be lost so much more easily at any time than muscle can be built.

    @Hoot - Why does it matter. Stop making it so complicated. Just eat food, lots of it, focus on compound movements when lifting with good form, rest well and you'll see results. It isn't that hard. I made a mess of over-complicating it too much and it took me a good 2-3 months to realise what I was doing is wrong.
    In Robbie's situation it doesn't really matter for reasons that you have just said. But when you are very serious about bodybuilding, everything has to be perfect for optimal results. Protein absorption has always been a highly debated topic in the world of teen bodybuilding and there's so much broscience involved.

    Robbie only weighs 100lbs so he is obviously going to be really thin, doing loads of cardiovascular exercise will only burn more calories and if he doesn't eat more to compensate that he will lose even more fat. At that weight he really can't have much fat on him so he would look way more healthier if he was to gain some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot View Post
    In Robbie's situation it doesn't really matter for reasons that you have just said. But when you are very serious about bodybuilding, everything has to be perfect for optimal results. Protein absorption has always been a highly debated topic in the world of teen bodybuilding and there's so much broscience involved.

    Robbie only weighs 100lbs so he is obviously going to be really thin, doing loads of cardiovascular exercise will only burn more calories and if he doesn't eat more to compensate that he will lose even more fat. At that weight he really can't have much fat on him so he would look way more healthier if he was to gain some.
    I see morons who are thick as a tree and yet they are walking around 180-200lbs. with 10%bf, all natural. 1g per 1lb of lbm isn't complicated. Measuring kcal aint complicated either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMacC View Post
    I see morons who are thick as a tree and yet they are walking around 180-200lbs. with 10%bf, all natural. 1g per 1lb of lbm isn't complicated. Measuring kcal aint complicated either.
    I meant serious as in professional, everything has to be perfect when you are at the competing level. Just wondering though, how long have you been lifting and what is your size and weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot View Post
    I meant serious as in professional, everything has to be perfect when you are at the competing level. Just wondering though, how long have you been lifting and what is your size and weight?
    Most people wont go pro, pro is a genetics game.
    3 months. 136lbs.
    Started at 120lbs.
    Height is 5'7/8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soka View Post
    Firstly whats a broski/ never heard that before is it a new insult floating about lol, also i didn't even know what bb.com is before now and i've had to actually just had to google it. I'd never go on the internet asking people i don't know (some may know what they're talking about) but the majority are talking crap. If I wanted advice i'd ask professionals in person.

    i'm going to start protein in the new year i've said after taking advice from people who know what they're talking about.

    We'll have to agree to disagree on the cardio being a waste of time because it isn't ! And do you believe you can get ripped, (note theres a difference between ripped and just building muscle/) from doing no weights is literally impossible.
    I know there is a difference.. I stated that I thought ripped was having a BF <=8%. You haven't stated any reasons why cardio is useful. Who are 'people who know what they're talking about'? If they told you to up protein intake (considering it is adequate now and adequate protein levels for bodybuilders are significantly lower than most people expect) then they don't know what they are talking about. Most excess protein is converted to glucose via gluconeogenesis. 1lb per lb of LBM is just for simplicity and to be safe. Upping calories will likely be what break this 'plateau' you have reached.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoot View Post
    This article seems to make a lot of sense to me about protein absorption:
    http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...a-single-meal/

    Thoughts?
    Check the 14-day study they mention. Backs up what I said. Doesn't matter if you eat 1 meal or 6. The difference being that 6 meals will cause you to have chronically elevated levels of insulin which increases insulin resistance, insulin resistance = type 2 diabetes.

    I agree with paul. Be consistent, eat lots, drink plenty of milk (Rippetoe observed that it seems to lead to gains greater than can be accounted for by it's caloric value, possibly due to ILGF-1 (disputed as to whether this is in cow's milk), possibly due to a different hormone in cows milk or maybe something all together different).
    Ignore the stupid notion of doing one bodypart each day, or doing split routines. Compound lifts build more muscle.

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    Can I just say if the OP is still trying to 'get ripped' then Google P90X. If you haven't got an excellent regime then check that out, it looks alright. Personally not tried it as I don't need too however the outcomes look alright.

    moderator alert Edited by Infectious (Forum Moderator): Please do not bump old threads, thanks!
    Last edited by Chris; 05-04-2011 at 09:54 AM.

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