Clearing up a big misconception

[Eoin247]

Because they would be in a better position than members to know the actual demographic of the site & forum. It is you who have made the thread 'Clearing up a big misconception' and cannot back up that there actually is one. The truth is that we have all ages on the forum and so have to be mindful of that because it is a Habbo Fansite. Nothing more, nothing less.


Sure am, quite a lot older, but shows exactly how unreliable & unscientific a poll like this can be.

So now you're saying that normal members opinions don't matter on this? Weren't you and Oli saying earlier that all members matter and count? Even though i showed you some proof you refuse to listen and instead are trying to find a loophole around it. Ok then heres a witness that staff also say this.

You get it wrongly chucked around the Feedback forum by Management a few times. Everyone can tell the userbase is above 11 anyway... way above 11... with the use of language, hobbies and activities that go around the forum.

And i never said many ages don't use the forum, so why you're trying to debate that with me i don't know.

It dissapoints me that in order to try and have the argument favour your side you lied in the poll. It can be said for all surveys that theres a possibility that people would lie (even for olis so called official age poll). If you're being completely honest with yourself do you really think that most people didn't say the truth. They have nothing to gain from lying in this survey, whilst in other surveys people may have reasons for lying.

Not to mention in the "official habbox age poll", apparently the average age was 15 as oli said. My poll was done a year later, and so my results cannot be far off if they are.

[Hecktix]

if people really want to know average ages i could set up another official poll sometime, not really an issue for me but don't see why it couldn't be done.

[Conservative,]

if people really want to know average ages i could set up another official poll sometime, not really an issue for me but don't see why it couldn't be done.

I'd like to see that just to prove Eoin's point. I agree with Eoin a lot of the "spam crew" call staff/habbo forum posters "11/12 year olds" and stuff...maybe as a joke, but I don't really find it funny. Especially when they're like " Omg you're 15? I thought you were like 12".

It's pointless arguing over it, but as Eoin said - if Oli's poll was right, then Eoin's can't be far off either. Catzsy, what you did was just pointless - not many people would just lie for the hell of it, you did that (as Eoin said) to put the argument in your favour, however looking at the results, it looks to me that no one other than you has lied about their age - or if they have I can't tell.


Eoin was just trying to point out that when the "spam crew" call everyone else 12 year olds - it's not funny, and it's probably not correct. I think he has a valid point to be fair. Staff MAY be younger, although actually I don't think I can name any under the age of 12, but the misconception - which does seem apparent, or even if you DO know that it's not true - is still thrown about - has been proven wrong.

[Stephen]

none of the people who voted 11 or under are 11 or under

kthx

[Catzsy]

So now you're saying that normal members opinions don't matter on this? Weren't you and Oli saying earlier that all members matter and count? Even though i showed you some proof you refuse to listen and instead are trying to find a loophole around it. Ok then heres a witness that staff also say this.




And i never said many ages don't use the forum, so why you're trying to debate that with me i don't know.

It dissapoints me that in order to try and have the argument favour your side you lied in the poll. It can be said for all surveys that theres a possibility that people would lie (even for olis so called official age poll). If you're being completely honest with yourself do you really think that most people didn't say the truth. They have nothing to gain from lying in this survey, whilst in other surveys people may have reasons for lying.

Not to mention in the "official habbox age poll", apparently the average age was 15 as oli said. My poll was done a year later, and so my results cannot be far off if they are.

If you think that I voted to get the results in my favour that is laughable as everyone knows I am older. I do think that not everybody is going to put their true age. Nothing I can prove but then you can't prove it the other way either. I never said anywhere that normal members don't count but staff/admins would be in a better position to know, that's all. It is you that has posted this thread saying there is a big misconception. I am saying that there isn't one because nobody has ever said that the majority of the forum is young just that when setting the rules one has to be mindful that there are younger members that come on the forum so I don't get the point of your thread. Either there is a huge misconception which is backed by some substantial evidence which you haven't provided or there isn't one. I back the latter. What actually is the point of the thread apart from telling us something we already know?

[Eoin247]

If you think that I voted to get the results in my favour that is laughable as everyone knows I am older. I do think that not everybody is going to put their true age. Nothing I can prove but then you can't prove it the other way either. I never said anywhere that normal members don't count but staff/admins would be in a better position to know, that's all. It is you that has posted this thread saying there is a big misconception. I am saying that there isn't one because nobody has ever said that the majority of the forum is young just that when setting the rules one has to be mindful that there are younger members that come on the forum so I don't get the point of your thread. Either there is a huge misconception which is backed by some substantial evidence which you haven't provided or there isn't one. I back the latter. What actually is the point of the thread apart from telling us something we already know?

You are constantly changing your stance on a number of points. You told me that my first piece of evidense was invalid just because a staff member didn't say it. When i proved that staff do actualy say it, by quoting a very reliable member, you ignored it and continue to say i have no proof. I've shown a lot more proof for my argument that you have for yours, in fact you've have had nothing to back up your point at all? Why do people make surveys then Catzy? If they are as unreliable as you say they are. It has been proven that with surveys that the vast vast majority of people say the truth, especially in simple surveys like this.

So why did you vote 11 then? I suppose it was just by chance and that all the other incorrect decisions for trying to invalidate my poll just passed you by right...

I'm fed up of people not reading my earlier posts properly and then posting. I answered many of the questions i'm still being asked already, like why i made the poll. Actualy i think i said it a few times by now.

[Catzsy]

You are constantly changing your stance on a number of points. You told me that my first piece of evidense was invalid just because a staff member didn't say it. When i proved that staff do actualy say it, by quoting a very reliable member, you ignored it and continue to say i have no proof. I've shown a lot more proof for my argument that you have for yours, in fact you've have had nothing to back up your point at all? Why do people make surveys then Catzy? If they are as unreliable as you say they are. It has been proven that with surveys that the vast vast majority of people say the truth, especially in simple surveys like this.

So why did you vote 11 then? I suppose it was just by chance and that all the other incorrect decisions for trying to invalidate my poll just passed you by right...

I'm fed up of people not reading my earlier posts properly and then posting. I answered many of the questions i'm still being asked already, like why i made the poll. Actualy i think i said it a few times by now.

He might be a reliable member but again I feel I am too and I have never seen any member of staff say what you quoted in the first post or anywhere near it. I repeat myself you have no evidence to back up your claims that there is a big misconception. I have looked through the whole thread and can't see exactly what your point is other than that. No. I voted 11 to show that it was easy to skew any results. Is there any reason you voted twice?

[Eoin247]

I just checked and i did indeed say why i made this poll. I would quote it but it's very difficult on my phone. It's on the first few pages.

So either you didn't actualy look through the thread as you said you just did, or you are ignoring part if not all of some of my posts. And as i said in my previous post, funny it was 11 rather than any other age.

[Catzsy]

I just checked and i did indeed say why i made this poll. I would quote it but it's very difficult on my phone. It's on the first few pages.

So either you didn't actualy look through the thread as you said you just did, or you are ignoring part if not all of some of my posts. And as i said in my previous post, funny it was 11 rather than any other age.

Well you can call me a liar if you want and don't have to accept my reason for doing it. That's up to you. I stand by my reason. Also why have you voted twice in the poll? Funny you have failed to answer that point. I feel this thread has only been made to try to bring the 'filter' question back but avoiding feedback otherwise it doesn't tell us anything we didn't know and you could have just updated the poll thread otherwise. Before you say anything I am just as entitled to this view as you are to say I am a 'liar' and not accept my reason.

[Eoin247]

Well you can call me a liar if you want and don't have to accept my reason for doing it. That's up to you. I stand by my reason. Also why have you voted twice in the poll? Funny you have failed to answer that point. I feel this thread has only been made to try to bring the 'filter' question back but avoiding feedback otherwise it doesn't tell us anything we didn't know and you could have just updated the poll thread otherwise. Before you say anything I am just as entitled to this view as you are to say I am a 'liar' and not accept my reason.

How did i vote twice in the poll? Fair enough if you really meant it for the other reason. I just though it was a bit funny the way it was done. I don't want to make this thing personal by arguing about lying, so i'll leave it at that. I never once said anything though about bringing the filter back in to question in this thread. In fact i said very early on this was not in my intentions.

I suppose it has gotten to the stage where we are going to have to agree to disagree over this. I believe that there was a misconception and you don't. In the end i was just sharing my research, I don't really need or want to convince the entire forum.