West to use possible military action against Gaddafi

[FlyingJesus]

I believe in a woman's right to abortion doesn't mean I go around shoving coathangers up people. Active support is not the only way to agree with something

[-:Undertaker:-]

Rather differing these examples, war is about sending the children of others to fight and die for a cause. If you yourself aren't willing to step upto the plate for that cause, then don't expect the children of others to do it for you. Do we really believe that, if all of our MPs had children in the armed forces back in 2003 we'd have invaded Iraq? We have had two quagmires created so far (Iraq and Afghanistan) and our soldiers have died for nothing.

Don't let it happen again.

[HotelUser]

You support going into China/North Korwa/Zimbabwe/Saudi Arabia + countless others then? the sort of places where people go missing overnight for simply expressing their views or being seen as a threat to the regime.

Well China not really, because we need to continue exploiting its people to enjoy the items of our every day life.

North Korea is pretty awful and doesn't really contribute anything to anyone and tends to screw over all its inhabitants. Instead of arbitrarily for some reason "going in" it would be much more fun just to kill their dear leader, though (best do that whilst he's looking at things).

As for the Libya situation I think the threat is just awesome and when there's a democratic Libya it will be even more awesome.

[Catzsy]

Rather differing these examples, war is about sending the children of others to fight and die for a cause. If you yourself aren't willing to step upto the plate for that cause, then don't expect the children of others to do it for you. Do we really believe that, if all of our MPs had children in the armed forces back in 2003 we'd have invaded Iraq? We have had two quagmires created so far (Iraq and Afghanistan) and our soldiers have died for nothing.

Don't let it happen again.

That is so niave. Just because somebody believes in a cause then it doesn't mean they have to sign up to fight the war. You believe in 'freedom of speech' but when somebody expresses a view that they support a war such as iraaq you then say 'oh you are entitled to your view as long as you sign up to the war'. Double standards? So those of you don't believe in a war then you should attend the anti war demonstrations? Nobody forces anybody to sign up to the armed forces - they do it voluntarily and no children are sent to war. What the heck are you on about?

[-:Undertaker:-]

That is so niave. Just because somebody believes in a cause then it doesn't mean they have to sign up to fight the war. You believe in 'freedom of speech' but when somebody expresses a view that they support a war such as iraaq you then say 'oh you are entitled to your view as long as you sign up to the war'. Double standards? So those of you don't believe in a war then you should attend the anti war demonstrations? Nobody forces anybody to sign up to the armed forces - they do it voluntarily and no children are sent to war. What the heck are you on about?

I'm on about the fact that people such as yourself and Antony Blair are perfectly happy to send young guys and girls to wars around the world, based on lies/sexed up 'evidence' and a strange notion that somehow the hypocritical west has the right/moral superiority to get involved in almost every conflict hence making another pigs ear of the situation. If you yourself went and signed up then I think you would think twice as hard about your support for another fruitless foreign adventure which only ends up in soldiers coming back in body bags, increases on the national debt and thats not to mention the damage done by the likes of shock and awe policies on the people living there who are already living in poorly conditions as it is.

Do you really believe if our MPs back in 2003 had all had kids in the armed forces we'd be in Iraq? not a chance in hell would they have sent them.

If the west didn't support regimes such as Mubarak/Gaddafi/Hussein and so on.. then maybe you'd have a case. But as our whole and entire foreign policy is based upon backstabbbing, lies and hypocrisy - you only send up creating demons such as Al Qaeda which come back to haunt us.

[HotelUser]

@Dan, if they don't want to go to war they shouldn't join the army.

[-:Undertaker:-]

@Dan, if they don't want to go to war they shouldn't join the army.

I expect this country to use its army when it needs to defend its territory against an aggressor (Falklands for example), not for the hell of it just because it can - especially when the causes and the whole basis of western foreign policy is based upon hypocrisy, backstabbing and lies.

You do not send armed forces into a warzone unless it is absolutely necessary.

[HotelUser]

The army fighting for the greater good of other people in the world isn't just using it for the hell of it. Even if you disagree with them going there that's extremely disrespectful.

[-:Undertaker:-]

The army fighting for the greater good of other people in the world isn't just using it for the hell of it. Even if you disagree with them going there that's extremely disrespectful.

Thats nonsense because we've been the ones supporting these regimes for decades, so the idea that we should suddenly intervene now for freedom and democracy when we've kept that exact ideal out of the hands of the people all these years is pure hypocrisy.

The only reason our leaders wish to go in now is in order to firstly secure oil fields and second to attempt to look like the heroes.

[HotelUser]

Thats nonsense because we've been the ones supporting these regimes for decades, so the idea that we should suddenly intervene now for freedom and democracy when we've kept that exact ideal out of the hands of the people all these years is pure hypocrisy.

The only reason our leaders wish to go in now is in order to firstly secure oil fields and second to attempt to look like the heroes.

The looking like heros part really makes it all worth it.

Shame you've completely neglected to mention the fact that you'd be helping those poor Libyans out, though.