Site down again.

[GommeInc]

No, I live in the real world where I don't bite the hand that feeds me. It is not a commercial enterprise it is a fan site and it seems to me that some people just have hidden agendas here and are posting just to make him look bad. Basically you are saying that you know how to run Habbox better than he does and I am saying he has the right to run Habbox as he wishes on the resources at his disposal so I suggest you give him and the management a break. I am very sure they are doing the best they can.

I'm not nit picking in anyway, but you wouldn't expect this from a fan site They're meant to be fun places to chat and hang out, and the "owners" and people who volunteer to help out the site tend to be as lively or chatty as the members who make up the site. You mustn't forget, that a fansite relies on both the fans and the staff - what's the point having a fansite with just volunteers, and no "fans"? It's not "biting the hand that feeds you", it's wondering where the food is that's the problem, or why the hand that feeds us is getting a bit unreliable lately

[Catzsy]

I'm not nit picking in anyway, but you wouldn't expect this from a fan site They're meant to be fun places to chat and hang out, and the "owners" and people who volunteer to help out the site tend to be as lively or chatty as the members who make up the site. You mustn't forget, that a fansite relies on both the fans and the staff - what's the point having a fansite with just volunteers, and no "fans"? It's not "biting the hand that feeds you", it's wondering where the food is that's the problem, or why the hand that feeds us is getting a bit unreliable lately

Yes agreed, it has not always gone smoothly lately, but you reply in a reasonable fashion and I am sure your comments will be noted. I am sure that they will do their best to resolve it too but this isn't helped by making the issues personal. There are quite a few jibes at Jin and others in this thread which aren't necessary at all.

[Recursion]

Catszy, not to offend or anything but you need to grow a backbone, this is a real issue, if the forum is down Habbox lose out on advertising money, potential donations and more importantly the content that makes this forum look alive. If a forum doesn't look alive people won't join, creating a vicious circle.

Uptime is a crucial thing nowadays and generally you can expect uptimes to be 99%+ in most cases.

[GommeInc]

Yes agreed, it has not always gone smoothly lately, but you reply in a reasonable fashion and I am sure your comments will be noted. I am sure that they will do their best to resolve it too but this isn't helped by making the issues personal. There are quite a few jibes at Jin and others in this thread which aren't necessary at all.

Ah but you could argue that they are. People have invested in Habbox, and if the service isn't going to be working optimally or, what many consider, "normally", then they're going to lash out. It is a trivial matter which can be solved easily. It's one of the problems having a fansite run by people the same age as the fans - the "consumers" have just as many brain cells as the people running the fansite, and some no doubt have more.

[Catzsy]

Catszy, not to offend or anything but you need to grow a backbone, this is a real issue, if the forum is down Habbox lose out on advertising money, potential donations and more importantly the content that makes this forum look alive. If a forum doesn't look alive people won't join, creating a vicious circle.


Uptime is a crucial thing nowadays and generally you can expect uptimes to be 99%+ in most cases.

See what I mean, Gomme? Why the personal jibes? Also I have my own mind and always have, thanks, Recorsian. Also the downtime has not been bad enough to lose advertisers and I cannot see any evidence that anybody has left because of this. In fact quite a few members from long ago are returning. Perhaps you should open a site and forum yourself as you seem to have all the answers and show everybody how it is done.

Ah but you could argue that they are. People have invested in Habbox, and if the service isn't going to be working optimally or, what many consider, "normally", then they're going to lash out. It is a trivial matter which can be solved easily. It's one of the problems having a fansite run by people the same age as the fans - the "consumers" have just as many brain cells as the people running the fansite, and some no doubt have more.

I think you mean members have donated to Habbox and quite honestly most habbo fansites are run by people the same age.

[GommeInc]

I think you mean members have donated to Habbox and quite honestly most habbo fansites are run by people the same age.

Did I not say that when I said invested? The last bit is my point - fansites are run by people the same age, so you should treat them on the same level as they have the same level of skill and knowledge as you do, and quite a few people here have suggested ways in which the issue should be tackled. It's only frustrating because they know it needs sorting and knows ways in which to fix it

[Catzsy]

Did I not say that when I said invested? The last bit is my point - fansites are run by people the same age, so you should treat them on the same level as they have the same level of skill and knowledge as you do, and quite a few people here have suggested ways in which the issue should be tackled. It's only frustrating because they know it needs sorting and knows ways in which to fix it

Donation is not the same. Investors usually have a stakehold. As I said it is not what is said it is the way that some have gone about it. They are also assuming that options are not already being considered and do not have the knowledge or have access to people that do. No reason suggestions should not be made and I am sure management would welcome positive suggestions but it also does not mean they have to be taken onboard as it depends what is viable and what is considered the best way forward for Habbox at this present time which is not always what some members want.

[Chippiewill]

What I don't get is why all the staff and management are suddenly being spokespeople for Jin when crucially this is his decision so actually, could Oil please go do his job and tell Jin what our views our, tell Jin what his views are, then direct Jin to this thread and then politely request that me makes a statement/decision because currently I'm slightly confused as to why any member of staff thinks they can be authoritative on this when only Jin has the option to decide, if Jin has already said no, then ok, close this thread so we stop cluttering up feedback and we can resort to sending him PMs about this issue if we are so bothered about this.

[Catzsy]

What I don't get is why all the staff and management are suddenly being spokespeople for Jin when crucially this is his decision so actually, could Oil please go do his job and tell Jin what our views our, tell Jin what his views are, then direct Jin to this thread and then politely request that me makes a statement/decision because currently I'm slightly confused as to why any member of staff thinks they can be authoritative on this when only Jin has the option to decide, if Jin has already said no, then ok, close this thread so we stop cluttering up feedback and we can resort to sending him PMs about this issue if we are so bothered about this.

Because nobody has spoken for Jin and nobody has said they are speaking for Jin but we all have the right to an opinion and the right to post it which is the same as anybody else. Quite honestly a simple pm with suggestions would have been welcomed I would guess but it is not always as simple as it seems on Habbox.

[GommeInc]

Donation is not the same. Investors usually have a stakehold. As I said it is not what is said it is the way that some have gone about it. They are also assuming that options are not already being considered and do not have the knowledge or have access to people that do. No reason suggestions should not be made and I am sure management would welcome positive suggestions but it also does not mean they have to be taken onboard as it depends what is viable and what is considered the best way forward for Habbox at this present time which is not always what some members want.

Depends how you interpret investment and if you take the literal meaning. People are donating to keep it afloat, and you could interpret this as investing in the organisation to better it. Afterall, they aren't getting anything special out of it

I think the problem here is that the people suggesting ideas are just being turned away for helping for a change, and not being told of the situation - especially when you've got geeks/nerds (whatever they're called) who know how to run these things. So there is bound to be some friction.