Shes Pregnant ...

[Catzsy]

No I don't accept that because it cannot feel emotion, or pain and so forth that its not a human. That is comparable to saying that somebody who is brain dead is not a human being when we know they clearly are. As Hitchens describes in the debate, its an attempt to dehumanise so it can be killed.

It may not be able to do the things we can do and may be dependent (as is a small baby unlike other mammals), but that does not mean it is not a human being just as it does not mean a small baby is not a human being.



Depends what you define as a human and/or a person. I would simply stick with homo sapiens/a human being, which a foetus is from the moment it is fertilised. The DNA of the 'animal' would thus prove this and science has been unable to come up with another viable alternative of how to define what matter is.

So do you agree with the abortion prior to the embryo becoming a foetus? Also what about the moral dilemmas
in a not uncommon scenario that the life of the woman is at risk if an abortion is not carried out. I have some personal experience of this in that a late relative was faced with this choice - she took the chance of carrying on and she died but the baby survived.

[Judas]

Can you read? He isn't talking about the OP...

"As for the topic poster..."

i'm fairly sure he is

[Teabags]

Not to be a pessimist, but is there nothing in life you want out of life first? Before you are tied down by the permanent commitment of a child. It completely restrains any chance of adventure and even if you got back with your ex - would you run the risk of breaking up, just like you did before?
This could work out badly - but at the end of the day it's your decision but personally at 21 I'd still want to achieve and explore so much.

[DPS]

Just fort i'd post, that she lost it. So it doesnt matter now

Could someone get this thread closed please x

[Catzsy]

Just fort i'd post, that she lost it. So it doesnt matter now

Could someone get this thread closed please x

I wouldn't normally be able to but on this occasion I will use my discretion - the circumstances seem to over rule the directions on this occasion and if I get told off, I get told off but I can't see that happening. So sorry about the news and I hope you will both be okay. xx

[Mathew]

Extremely sorry to hear about the terrible news, hope you're both okay.