Sad to think there are people like this in the world...

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Yes killing fish is a part of survival but fish aren't killed humanely by fishermen (from my point of view anyway) so I don't really see a discussion. I don't have any emotions for fish so I'm not going to pop in here and sob about what they did. As I said I don't agree with what these guys did I was explaining why i think they think it may be fine (even though it's not)

er fishermen try to kill them in the most humane way possible such as force to their head to stop their suffering once they're out the water. it's the kindest thing to do for the fish even if it's gruesome, better than leaving it in ice to slowly die... much better than piling it with alcohol and leaving it half cut on the ground. how can you possibly give these people an excuse for thinking it's fine to do that? to do that then post it all over facebook? i can understand stamping on a spider because our instincts tell us to fear them and that they pose danger. the hell is a fish going to do? its doing no harm, they won a fish at a fair and decided to end its life straight away in such a disgusting manner. it's your opinion and i understand its only a fish but to say you can understand why someone would want to essentially torture something is quite disturbing.

Generally speaking (if we are talking about active cruelty to animals rather than passive cruelty, which I think we are) cruelty to animals is usually a good indicator of serious psychological problems and is actually a known warning sign of certain psychopathologies, including APD ( also known as psychopathic personality disorder)

yup. i mean, maybe i'm just really sensitive but if i harmed any living thing i don't think i'd be able to live with myself. or maybe i just have morals. fair enough i'd get over a fish but it doesn't matter, to enjoy taking a life of any sort other than self defense and for pure enjoyment makes me feel sick and there's no way on earth i'd be around anyone that thought it was okay to do so. you don't have feel sorry for the animals or anything but to give an excuse for it or do it yourself absolutely boggles my mind.

Bullying is illegal

no it isn't. various methods of bullying and consequences of bullying will be illegal. its the method ('tortue') and motives (their own personal enjoyment) for why they killed the fish which is sad :/

Torturing something like a goldfish shouldn't be allowed.......Although those idiots killed them goldfish for no reason I don't feel upset or any sort of anger. Although I would do if it was towards an animal. Heck I even feel bad after killing a fly / spider. I'm not sure why I don't feel the same way towards fish, I just don't.

doesn't really equate to the rest of what you are saying and if this is the case then i don't understand why you're still arguing about it :S

Dw Richie I feel the same way

I don't give two ***** that the fish is dead

Actually I don't even care when people die tbh

BUT WHEN A DOG DIES I'm like awww

you're so lovely stephen ;p im sure that'll change one day like i don't cry over animals dying naturally or maybe even being hit by a car by accident (unless they were my own pets) but i certainly would if someone actively went out and killed them....

So, do you still think killing a goldfish for their own amusement is unacceptable? Who are we to say it's wrong/unacceptable when we are clearly killing animals for worse reasons? I think some people is blowing things out of proportion

yeah i do think KILLING for AMUSEMENT is unacceptable and can't understand why people would even ask that. i also think killing for fur is cruel too but most the people who do so are doing it to make money and i don't necessarily think they're evil people whereas someone who gets enjoyment out of doing it is and its sorta worrying for reasons akeam said, it shows deep psychological problems ;X. i'm not saying it's right, i can think killing a goldfish AND killing for fur can be cruel. there is no either or :S

No, I don't think it is acceptable for people to kill animals merely for their fur/hide/tusks etc but it is far more acceptable than killing for entertainment. It's a fallacy that you're trying to link the two as if they are the same things. I think generally speaking, everybody with morals realise it is not acceptable or normal for someone to want to torture and kill something for their amusement.

i needa rep you but think i gotta spread aha

wow arguing for a fish now i feel stupid hehehe. yuen are you serious though there is a big difference between defence and killing for enjoyment.

[RockyHorror]

What about mermaids, part fish part human, is it right to kill them? Discuss.

Edited by Lee (Forum Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[GirlNextDoor15]

er fishermen try to kill them in the most humane way possible such as force to their head to stop their suffering once they're out the water. it's the kindest thing to do for the fish even if it's gruesome, better than leaving it in ice to slowly die... much better than piling it with alcohol and leaving it half cut on the ground. how can you possibly give these people an excuse for thinking it's fine to do that? to do that then post it all over facebook? i can understand stamping on a spider because our instincts tell us to fear them and that they pose danger. the hell is a fish going to do? its doing no harm, they won a fish at a fair and decided to end its life straight away in such a disgusting manner. it's your opinion and i understand its only a fish but to say you can understand why someone would want to essentially torture something is quite disturbing.

yup. i mean, maybe i'm just really sensitive but if i harmed any living thing i don't think i'd be able to live with myself. or maybe i just have morals. fair enough i'd get over a fish but it doesn't matter, to enjoy taking a life of any sort other than self defense and for pure enjoyment makes me feel sick and there's no way on earth i'd be around anyone that thought it was okay to do so. you don't have feel sorry for the animals or anything but to give an excuse for it or do it yourself absolutely boggles my mind.


no it isn't. various methods of bullying and consequences of bullying will be illegal. its the method ('tortue') and motives (their own personal enjoyment) for why they killed the fish which is sad :/



doesn't really equate to the rest of what you are saying and if this is the case then i don't understand why you're still arguing about it :S


you're so lovely stephen ;p im sure that'll change one day like i don't cry over animals dying naturally or maybe even being hit by a car by accident (unless they were my own pets) but i certainly would if someone actively went out and killed them....

yeah i do think KILLING for AMUSEMENT is unacceptable and can't understand why people would even ask that. i also think killing for fur is cruel too but most the people who do so are doing it to make money and i don't necessarily think they're evil people whereas someone who gets enjoyment out of doing it is and its sorta worrying for reasons akeam said, it shows deep psychological problems ;X. i'm not saying it's right, i can think killing a goldfish AND killing for fur can be cruel. there is no either or :S

i needa rep you but think i gotta spread aha

wow arguing for a fish now i feel stupid hehehe. yuen are you serious though there is a big difference between defence and killing for enjoyment.

I dont want to be viewed as merciless or whatever but that is my opinion. Some people kill spiders because they think spiders are gonna harm them when they aren't. So, is that less cruel than killing an innocent goldfish? The spiders are innocent. Spiders will only be harmful/aggressive when you are harming them. It's not defending themselves. They are just going paranoid and you can't blame them obviously. I wouldn't blame the ones who kill just for fun. They wanted attention just like how some people go paranoid when they see spiders.

[Paige.]

er fishermen try to kill them in the most humane way possible such as force to their head to stop their suffering once they're out the water. it's the kindest thing to do for the fish even if it's gruesome, better than leaving it in ice to slowly die... much better than piling it with alcohol and leaving it half cut on the ground. how can you possibly give these people an excuse for thinking it's fine to do that? to do that then post it all over facebook? i can understand stamping on a spider because our instincts tell us to fear them and that they pose danger. the hell is a fish going to do? its doing no harm, they won a fish at a fair and decided to end its life straight away in such a disgusting manner. it's your opinion and i understand its only a fish but to say you can understand why someone would want to essentially torture something is quite disturbing.

yup. i mean, maybe i'm just really sensitive but if i harmed any living thing i don't think i'd be able to live with myself. or maybe i just have morals. fair enough i'd get over a fish but it doesn't matter, to enjoy taking a life of any sort other than self defense and for pure enjoyment makes me feel sick and there's no way on earth i'd be around anyone that thought it was okay to do so. you don't have feel sorry for the animals or anything but to give an excuse for it or do it yourself absolutely boggles my mind.

yeah i do think KILLING for AMUSEMENT is unacceptable and can't understand why people would even ask that. i also think killing for fur is cruel too but most the people who do so are doing it to make money and i don't necessarily think they're evil people whereas someone who gets enjoyment out of doing it is and its sorta worrying for reasons akeam said, it shows deep

I feel the same way as you do tbh and probably agree with everything you've said here. I am personally against fishing for fun like as a hobbie when they catch the fish and throw them back because they have put a hook in the fish's mouth for their own fun but I am also against fishing all together as for some reason I'm just emotionally attached to animals but I do understand that it needs to be done as we need food to survive etc although I don't like the fact that we kill animals for ourselves blah blah to eat blah but please don't go into that because it's just my opinion and I understand that millions of others are completely the opposite. I just don't understand why some of you are trying to justify these people's actions? And why are you comparing what they've done to hunting/fishing etc because it's completely different.. These people decided to torture these fish then do whatever they did to end their life and btw they didn't just step on it and that was the end of it, they tortured them beforehand (because it was 'funny').

I dont want to be viewed as merciless or whatever but that is my opinion. Some people kill spiders because they think spiders are gonna harm them when they aren't. So, is that less cruel than killing an innocent goldfish? The spiders are innocent. Spiders will only be harmful/aggressive when you are harming them. It's not defending themselves. They are just going paranoid and you can't blame them obviously. I wouldn't blame the ones who kill just for fun. They wanted attention just like how some people go paranoid when they see spiders.

Personally, I don't see why you're bring spiders into this conversation because killing spiders because you think 'they're gunna hurt you' or you don't like them or whatever is just as bad as killing goldfish for no reason (or for 'fun'). Killing anything for no reason is wrong in my eyes, whether it's a fish or a dog. Also, what? You're saying that these people did it for attention and it's the same as someone killing a spider because they're paranoid? No? what lol. They didn't want attention, they were just in the moment and thought it was absolutely hilarious. Plus killing for fun and killing because you're paranoid are two different things even though they're both wrong.

[Jazz]

thats just sick.

[dirrty]

I dont want to be viewed as merciless or whatever but that is my opinion. Some people kill spiders because they think spiders are gonna harm them when they aren't. So, is that less cruel than killing an innocent goldfish? The spiders are innocent. Spiders will only be harmful/aggressive when you are harming them. It's not defending themselves. They are just going paranoid and you can't blame them obviously. I wouldn't blame the ones who kill just for fun. They wanted attention just like how some people go paranoid when they see spiders.

lol just because people kill other things doesn't make either of them any better. plus i can't bring myself straight-up kill a spider (or anything for that matter) as i actually do feel bad.

[GommeInc]

That's revolting. I hope they are never left alone with other animals because, although it is a fish, they wanted to willfully kill it and take photos of it. It does make you question their limits :/