What a joke.

[iBlueBox]

I think it should depend on the type of competition,

For example room building competitions would be best done manually of a staff member choosing a winner.

Taking out the unfairness of voting such as booster rooms winning.

[MKR&*42]

I think it should depend on the type of competition,

For example room building competitions would be best done manually of a staff member choosing a winner.

Taking out the unfairness of voting such as booster rooms winning.

Yeah, he said he didn't like how some of the systems were manually organised in 2001. Nothing to do with functions within the hotel. You can't really argue with trying to find a better way to handle competitions for 300,000,000 users than having a staff manually document all their entries and points user an Excel Spreadsheet.

Read what iBlueBox said. It's a very valid point tbh... Wait for my reply, I'll have to do a quick count of something ok haha.

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Ok, in regards to room competitions. For the Savannah one, there were 11 pages on the navigator with room entires = 11 x 50 = 550 entries, minus the ones that weren't themed at all, I would put it near 500. It isn't that hard for a staff member to manually record 500 room entries haha. He said himself that room comps weren't being entered before by a lot of people ages ago, so surely the manual system wouldn't have been a big issue if it reached (I believe it was <1%) of users.

Ofc if it was for some major competition that received 1000s of entries, I'd understand his point about excel haha.

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@Abdicators; ^

[Abdicators]

You've got to remember that there's not even that many people online right now, because of how we can chat. This room competition attracted 25% of the online population of Habbo.com (out of an average of 4,000~) at your calculation of 500. If you keep that percentage when say, 8,000 people are online, then that is 2,000 room entries; per hotel. There is 11 hotels at the minute. So that's 22,000 room entries. Excel would be silly for that.

[Zak]

Am I the only one in thinking they need one person and about an hour of their time to literally look through the entered rooms and make their own judgement on whose is best, then announce the results fairly. A lot of people here could do that for free, though that's likely to be bias I suppose ...

I still stand at Paul being a moron, his actions to a lot of the problems are just ******* stupid. It takes no-time at all to implement what these users want, but no.... Habbo is a sinking ship, and I for one shall never spend credits on it again. Profit is the most important thing, but if the user's are unhappy they won't play anymore - There's a certain level they must meet in order to retain what they are currently making. Some areas they are going to fall short, but these are not huge problems (like the botting issue is on Runescape for example). They are easily fixable and require very little money spent or effort put into them to fix.

[MKR&*42]

I CAN'T THINK OF A REPLY. Anything I say contradicts myself @Abdicators;.

Only thing I can really say is, they managed to use Excel for so long so I don't see why they had to go full on scrapping the system now haha. If they felt in need of an update, go ahead and update it but don't just cancel a perfectly good system because of 1 minor imperfection

Would love to know what they'd plan to do instead of Excel though?

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Am I the only one in thinking they need one person and about an hour of their time to literally look through the entered rooms and make their own judgement on whose is best, then announce the results fairly. A lot of people here could do that for free, though that's likely to be bias I suppose ...

I still stand at Paul being a moron, his actions to a lot of the problems are just ******* stupid. It takes no-time at all to implement what these users want, but no.... Habbo is a sinking ship, and I for one shall never spend credits on it again. Profit is the most important thing, but if the user's are unhappy they won't play anymore - There's a certain level they must meet in order to retain what they are currently making. Some areas they are going to fall short, but these are not huge problems (like the botting issue is on Runescape for example). They are easily fixable and require very little money spent or effort put into them to fix.

It wouldn't even take that long to go through the top 100 rooms that received a badge for their efforts and remove the ones that aren't themed at all. I imagine most "addicted" players get through three times as many rooms as that per day.

Personally I think the final top 10 rooms should have been judged like the Stray Pixels entries. Simply with a poll, no going into a room with a giveaway to vote, making sure you can't use multiple characters on the same ID to vote, just allow the entire community to vote by placing a poll in a public room.

[iBlueBox]

Answer could be as simple as,

Having one hotel manager per hotel like normal.
With deputy managers,

they organise in-site competitions and judge them.

[Abdicators]

I think you're all focusing too much on having a staff member do the work. There is much better ways to do it than that. A major issue with this system is that users could vote for the room by entering it normally. They should have limited votes to going through the hotel view and the navigator that listed the entries. far less boosters/gamers would use that to get to their favourite rooms.

[Kyle]

The problem with the competition is the amount of fake entries - rooms that have deliberately entered with no plans to actually participate in the building aspect of the competition. All these suggestions about changing the voting are cool but Paul won't be listening to any of them because making competitions fun to enter but still fair for all isn't on his agenda.

I would say that the voting part is the fairest it could possibly be right now. All rooms are visible and if one wishes they can trawl through each and every entry to find those that they feel are worthy of their vote(s). Taking entries out of public view means that the only rooms that will receive votes are those that are kept full or those that are mad by people with a lot of contacts who they can badger until they vote the room. This means that really, boosting rooms and clubs will have a far higher chance of winning the competition than they do now.

The current setup is a good one, just not for themed competitions like these where habbos can abuse the system by only placing minimal furni down. With a crack down on votes per ID I think it would be a very good system for a room of the week type competition. For this competition though, it's quite obvious that some sort of vetting of rooms is urgently required. Even if it's just making sure the top ten follow the theme rather than going through hundreds of entries, that's fine by me.

Still think there is room for a competition council of some sort! Very little staff time would be taken to supervise it and they could help to eliminate the boost/party rooms from themed comps.

[Zak]

I'd say do the voting thing, then get a individual who works for Sulake to simply visit each of the 100 rooms, then the chosen individual must then choose a winner from that list, even a second, third.

Cost to Sulake: One hours wage, low paid worker .. £6-7?
Number of members happy: Hundreds? Thousands?

Considering how much Sulake makes, I don't see how someone couldn't see them not doing something like this as a complete joke. Anything less than doing this is just showing that they really don't care about the community.....................

anyone else agree

[Abdicators]

I'd say do the voting thing, then get a individual who works for Sulake to simply visit each of the 100 rooms, then the chosen individual must then choose a winner from that list, even a second, third.

Cost to Sulake: One hours wage, low paid worker .. £6-7?
Number of members happy: Hundreds? Thousands?

Considering how much Sulake makes, I don't see how someone couldn't see them not doing something like this as a complete joke. Anything less than doing this is just showing that they really don't care about the community.....................

anyone else agree

I don't agree. It isn't hundreds or thousands of people that are angry. The majority seem very content with how the competitions are going, it seems to me only a small percentage of users are getting angry about this.