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    I do love reading comments on here from people who don't believe in freedom of speech and who believe their is a 'right' to not be offended. All of them have absolutely no common sense nor concept of the real world, thinking the world can be made nice with cuddles and love by throwing nasty people in prison with whom they disagree with.

    All i'll say is, there was a well known regime which also arrested people for speech/expression which eventually led to books being burnt and much worse. The fact that people can now be arrested for certain sounds coming from their mouth/words being written is far more nasty than anything that was written to Tom Daley.
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    Dan if you actually read into this issue past the misleading first post you'd see that the legal issue was with death threats and violent abuse, not just someone being a meany poo
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I do love reading comments on here from people who don't believe in freedom of speech and who believe their is a 'right' to not be offended. All of them have absolutely no common sense nor concept of the real world, thinking the world can be made nice with cuddles and love by throwing nasty people in prison with whom they disagree with.

    All i'll say is, there was a well known regime which also arrested people for speech/expression which eventually led to books being burnt and much worse. The fact that people can now be arrested for certain sounds coming from their mouth/words being written is far more nasty than anything that was written to Tom Daley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Dan if you actually read into this issue past the misleading first post you'd see that the legal issue was with death threats and violent abuse, not just someone being a meany poo
    exactly. i don't think people should be prosecuted for just generally being a ****, but when it comes to death threats, it should be handled the way the police would handle threats over the phone. twitter is just another communicative medium that should be monitored exactly how traditional ones are. the problem though, is that it seems like it's only forwarded to the police when it involves someone high profile (not really surprised). but with the increasing amount of police forces having twitter accounts, i can see the rise in cases being dealt with in regards to the public. i'm all for morons like the one in question being made an example of to deter other idiots in doing the same thing (like the riots last year and the harsh penalties).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Dan if you actually read into this issue past the misleading first post you'd see that the legal issue was with death threats and violent abuse, not just someone being a meany poo
    I'm referring to threats as well, I think there is a clear line between genuine reasons to believe a threat (which should be investigated if evidence comes up) as compared with general comments made on Twitter.

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    exactly. i don't think people should be prosecuted for just generally being a ****, but when it comes to death threats, it should be handled the way the police would handle threats over the phone. twitter is just another communicative medium that should be monitored exactly how traditional ones are. the problem though, is that it seems like it's only forwarded to the police when it involves someone high profile (not really surprised). but with the increasing amount of police forces having twitter accounts, i can see the rise in cases being dealt with in regards to the public. i'm all for morons like the one in question being made an example of to deter other idiots in doing the same thing (like the riots last year and the harsh penalties).
    I'm one of the posters on this forum who argues most strongly for a tough criminal justice system, but freedom of speech is absolute.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I'm referring to threats as well, I think there is a clear line between genuine reasons to believe a threat (which should be investigated if evidence comes up) as compared with general comments made on Twitter.



    I'm one of the posters on this forum who argues most strongly for a tough criminal justice system, but freedom of speech is absolute.
    freedom of speech doesn't truly exist tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirrty View Post
    freedom of speech doesn't truly exist tho
    It can, it just depends whether you believe in it or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    It can, it just depends whether you believe in it or not.
    i wouldn't say "whether you believe in it or not", but rather whether society (and it's agencies) allow you to illustrate that supposed right.

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    Total and utter freedom of speech can infringe on other peoples' freedoms, and that's where it needs policing. Saying "I don't like your face" isn't nice and might make someone unhappy but it isn't causing any damage other than that, whereas telling someone you're going to hunt them down and kill them is inciting real fear and quite understandably should not be allowed as you are causing someone else actual difficulty. If you don't make that distinction then all you're left with is a primitive and unstable tyranny of the strongest where the most physically built-up people can do as they please because no-one can do anything about them
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    I think that it only got more serious because so many people got involved. If it was a normal person, but just as many people got involved, it'd also be a big deal.

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