Transgender woman wants to fight in women's MMA

[mrwoooooooo]

Stating "opinions" without any basis has no place in debates or life. Also I don't deny that I'm egotistical but that's got nothing to do with my post since nothing I've said is about me being better than anyone, so nice one telling me off for a personal comment and then going right on to do the very same thing

She is a woman and should be allowed to compete as one. Especially post-op it should be a no-brainer, but I guess having no brain is rampant in the ranks of hxf membership

anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours has no brain? mmk

just sayin'

[FlyingJesus]

By all means continue not to actually address any of the points with credible arguments. AGAIN, opinions and provably false statements are not the same thing

[e5]

He/She will still have the strength of which a man holds so not exactly fair...

[GommeInc]

Hmm, interesting case. She should be allowed to fight in a women's tournament because she is a woman. However, the problem is the remnants of her past - was she incredibly fit as a man and has that carried onto her now-female form? There could be some advantage to becoming a woman and fighting as a woman if, and specifically IF, she hasn't changed that much physically if she was physically fit and capable to fight in a men's tournament, as I believe they have very different fighting weights (you have to have knowledge on MMA, of which I lack ).

She had the op in 2006, so I'd hazard a guess that the hormone treatment should of worked and she would be fighting at a women's level. If there are problems the MMA could always investigate further to see if she is at an advantage, but this was over 6 years ago. A lot could change and she may just be a really good fighter as a woman.

[Zak]

I don't think it's fair on the other female fighters, in my eyes she will always be male.. If a friend of mine was a women but had a sex change to become a man, increased testosterone etc I'd still view them as female. I just think she will have an advantage over the other competitors no matter what anyone says on here.. that's my opinion

[Yawn]

its not fair on the other fighters a lesbian might make them feel uncomfortable

[GommeInc]

Have there been any tests on whether or not there is a physical and possibly biological advantage to her being a fighter in a women's match (and not on capability)? If there have been and they prove she is at advantage then yeah that's fair as there is some concrete evidence. It seems to deny her to fight purely because she has had a sex change without first investigating it.

Am I just being too fair? I'm not one to discriminate over petty things, and believe in fair chances

[Ardemax]

Oh right

I'm like 99.99% certain if you're born a man you can only legally marry a woman.

[FlyingJesus]

If they're legally recognised as female then that's that, and they can in that case currently only marry a male, but that's set to change obv with new gay marriage laws being drawn up. Aside from that, they could get a civil partnership no matter what their legal status. Regardless of either case, UK law does not in any way suggest that "if you're born a man, you are forever a man", so if you want to side with the law as you said then that's fine since it's inclusive

[Ardemax]

If they're legally recognised as female then that's that, and they can in that case currently only marry a male, but that's set to change obv with new gay marriage laws being drawn up. Aside from that, they could get a civil partnership no matter what their legal status. Regardless of either case, UK law does not in any way suggest that "if you're born a man, you are forever a man", so if you want to side with the law as you said then that's fine since it's inclusive

The boundaries of if you're a man or woman are sketchy if you have the op though.

I think they just need a transgender group and then everything will be dandy.