Woman 'beheaded' in North London

[scottish]

How many crimes have Been committed so far by unidentified individuals wearing burkas I wonder


~~from phone

0, only time I've heard about it is someone wearing one to avoid capture, not used it when committing.

[Hannah]

There's a MASSIVE difference between going into a bank with a crash helmet on and going in with a religious piece of clothing on.

It was never hidden? They never knew the suspects name, let alone religious background at the time of saying it wasn't a religiously motivated beheading. and it still isn't, the fact he's muslim means nothing, the fact he's mentally ill means everything. He didn't follow his religion as it stated he gambled and done various other things that are strictly against it.

If Christians had a religious belief of wearing something over their head, that would be perfectly acceptable, however due to it being a religion that's 'came here' then it's suddenly not?

Why is there a huge difference? Either way their identity is hidden so how does that make any difference?
Is someone in a Burka not going to hold up a bank while someone who has just stepped off of a motorbike will?

Also, if Christians had a headdress which hid their identity it would be the exact same. While being politically correct with all that bullcrap they would be allowed - however in actuality - religion is just a belief, and therefore whether for your belief or not, hiding your identity should be the same, Muslim, Christian, Catholic, Jewish, whatever, or not.

In fact, wearing the Burka covers your identity, as does a crash helmet and such. Why on Earth does religion say whether we can be safe in the knowledge that criminals can be identified in the case that a crime is committed?

Well, if I go to commit a crime I know what I'll be wearing! :rolleyes:

[scottish]

Why is there a huge difference? Either way their identity is hidden so how does that make any difference?
Is someone in a Burka not going to hold up a bank while someone who has just stepped off of a motorbike will?

Also, if Christians had a headdress which hid their identity it would be the exact same. While being politically correct with all that bullcrap they would be allowed - however in actuality - religion is just a belief, and therefore whether for your belief or not, hiding your identity should be the same, Muslim, Christian, Catholic, Jewish, whatever, or not.

In fact, wearing the Burka covers your identity, as does a crash helmet and such. Why on Earth does religion say whether we can be safe in the knowledge that criminals can be identified in the case that a crime is committed?

Well, if I go to commit a crime I know what I'll be wearing! :rolleyes:

Because if you want into a bank wearing a motorbike helmet then you're most likely doing it to hide your identity, not to keep your head safe while riding your motorbike in the bank...

A religious piece of clothing is completely different.

As Kardan stated, how many people have actually committed a crime with a Burka? I'd like to see those statistics.

Please do commit a crime wearing a Burka, it'll push the 'people who commited a crime wearing a Burka' statistic to 1 and we'll get rid of you for quite a while depending on the severity of the crime.

[Hannah]

Because if you want into a bank wearing a motorbike helmet then you're most likely doing it to hide your identity, not to keep your head safe while riding your motorbike in the bank...

A religious piece of clothing is completely different.

As Kardan stated, how many people have actually committed a crime with a Burka? I'd like to see those statistics.

Please do commit a crime wearing a Burka, it'll push the 'people who commited a crime wearing a Burka' statistic to 1 and we'll get rid of you for quite a while depending on the severity of the crime.

You're so pleasant!

But there have been several crimes committed by people wearing a Burka - simply Googling will bring up several results.
Whether they are Muslims wearing Burkas or people wearing Burkas purely because it is the same as wearing a balaclava - there have been crimes committed wearing them.

Not all people wear Burkas for religious reasons, which you don't seem to see.

[scottish]

You're so pleasant!

But there have been several crimes committed by people wearing a Burka - simply Googling will bring up several results.
Whether they are Muslims wearing Burkas or people wearing Burkas purely because it is the same as wearing a balaclava - there have been crimes committed wearing them.

Not all people wear Burkas for religious reasons, which you don't seem to see.

Of course other people will wear them, when people wear motorbike helmets to rob a bank, not all of them ride motorbikes.

You're trying to strip people of their religious beliefs, because some guy might stick one on and attempt to commit a crime.

[Hannah]

Of course other people will wear them, when people wear motorbike helmets to rob a bank, not all of them ride motorbikes.

You're trying to strip people of their religious beliefs, because some guy might stick one on and attempt to commit a crime.

What is stopping them wearing a Hijab? Something which shows their face but allows them to conceal the rest of themselves, while still representing religious faith and modesty? They can be identified, they are still covered and not being 'stripped of their religious beliefs' as you claim.

[Kardan]

What is stopping them wearing a Hijab? Something which shows their face but allows them to conceal the rest of themselves, while still representing religious faith and modesty? They can be identified, they are still covered and not being 'stripped of their religious beliefs' as you claim.

So why do France feel the need to restrict the wearing of hijabs in certain places? I feel that France are a bit too strict.

[GommeInc]

0, only time I've heard about it is someone wearing one to avoid capture, not used it when committing.

There have been a few. This one was on the news in 2012 that I remember:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-18678522

There was one involving a man who wore a burka and then strangled his estranged wife:
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/03/05...fe-behind-bars (Canadian case)

Depends how you see capture and committing. He committed the crime wearing the burka but also the avoid capture

So why do France feel the need to restrict the wearing of hijabs in certain places? I feel that France are a bit too strict.

Forced cultural protection. France is very protective of its culture and Islam simply doesn't fit in with core French values, and definitely not wearing religious garbs (unless you're a nun or monk that helps make wine). It's strict but makes sense to them and in a way is entirely agreeable.

It is sometimes justified by being against signs of oppression towards women where women are made to cover up. That, and for crime prevention reasons where hiding that much of your face is unacceptable although they seem happy with cycle helmets so there's only so far you can go with that argument.