^ Goths 'more likely to self harm' ^

[RLY-CRAIG?]

The people who tell everyone about how they self harm do it for attention. No question about it.

Agreed

[Craig]

Apparently Rups was telling me on MSN yesterday that she was speaking to someone from this forum and Rups was debating about her apparently self harming and this other forum member said 'You made me go slit now,thanks a bunch'

I pmsl.

[sarey]

If thats about me, i didnt say that. :/
Because i was speaking too her yesterday, and i fell out with her because she called me an attention seeker, and im very much againts people who attention seek for fricken selfharm. But hey, theirs alot of people who 'slit' themselfs on here, considering in the teen life section.

[Scorpio]

Goths 'more likely to self-harm'

Self-harming is a strategy for coping with serious emotional problems
Teenage Goths are more likely to self-harm than those in other social groups, a study has found.
Glasgow researchers surveyed 1,258 teens at the ages of 11, 13, 15 and 17.

Up to 14% of teenagers self-harm, but half of the 25 who described themselves as Goths had done so, reported the British Medical Journal.

Most self-harmed before becoming a Goth, suggesting they chose the subculture because they felt their emotional distress would be understood.

Self-harm - such as cutting, burning or punching to deliberately cause pain - is used as a way of coping with emotional problems.

It can be linked to depression, attempted suicide, and various psychiatric disorders in later life.

The Glasgow study found that belonging to the Goth subculture - as 25 people did - was strongly associated with a lifetime risk of self harm (53%) and attempted suicide (47%).

Goths favour black clothing, black and white make-up and tend to follow a style of rock music derived from punk.

Those who belonged to the group had the strongest association of any youth subculture, even after factors such as social class, parental separation, smoking, alcohol use, or previous depression had been taken into account.

Of the 93 who said they felt some identification with the Goth subculture, 10% had self-harmed.

Parents 'should not worry'

Robert Young, the psychologist who led the study, said: "Although only fairly small numbers of young people identify as belonging to the Goth subculture, rates of self-harm and attempted suicide are very high among this group.

Mr Young said a teenager who self-harmed was obviously a concern, whatever social group they belonged to.

But he added: "I don't think parents should be worried if their children identify with Goths.

"Rather than posing a risk, it's also possible that by belonging to this subculture young people are gaining valuable social and emotional support from their peers.

"However, the study was based on small numbers and replication is needed to confirm our results."

Dr Michael van Beinum, a consultant child and adolescent psychiatrist at Lanarkshire Public Healthcare Trust who advised on the study, said: "Social support is important for all young people to help them cope with the difficulties they face, and therefore finding a peer group of like-minded Goths may, for some, be adaptive.

"Adults helping young people in difficulty need to be aware that those who clearly identify with Goth subculture may also be self-harming, and may benefit from learning further coping mechanisms to help them overcome inner distress."

Avis Johns, of the charity Young Minds, said: "Self-harm amongst young people is a serious concern.

"This report suggests that as a society we need to do much more to provide support mechanisms for vulnerable people.

"It is a wake-up call for us all. We must ensure that young people receive support for mental illness in the ways and places that are responsive to their needs."

A good amount of copy and pasting there from the BBC website. Seeing as there are some people from that social group, whats are your views about this?

Self-harming can also be from scatching, it sounds silly but I often do it. I start scratching my wrist when i'm thinking about something, something that worries me or something I feel bad about, and I won't even notice i'm doing it until I see blood or feel it stinging. I hate it >;l

People self-harm not for attention, but to make themselves feel better. When they cut themselves they feel a release from things they are troubled by, and often feel guilty afterwards. Why would they hide their scars if they wanted attention?

Also, incase any of you want to ask, I am not a goth, lol! I'm just a worrier. x] Anyway, they're my views ;]

[FlyingJesus]

To everyone who's been saying stuff about how "anyone can self harm", "not all goths do it" and "it's not just goths/emos that self harm", if you read the original post that started this thread then you'll see that it says that 10% of people who called themselves goths admitted to self harming. Nowhere does it claim that only goths do it, nowhere does it claim that all goths do it. Nowhere does it say that other people stereotype them as goths, they did so themselves.

[Nixt]

To everyone who's been saying stuff about how "anyone can self harm", "not all goths do it" and "it's not just goths/emos that self harm", if you read the original post that started this thread then you'll see that it says that 10% of people who called themselves goths admitted to self harming. Nowhere does it claim that only goths do it, nowhere does it claim that all goths do it. Nowhere does it say that other people stereotype them as goths, they did so themselves.

He is so right...
It is my opinion that people self harm because they feel they have no control; similar to psychological reasons for Anorexia, I think that Self Harmers don't like the way that their body is growing out of their own control. This frustrates them and therefore leads to self harm which gives them the sense of control over their body that they have desired for so long.

[Craig]

If thats about me, i didnt say that. :/
Because i was speaking too her yesterday, and i fell out with her because she called me an attention seeker, and im very much againts people who attention seek for fricken selfharm. But hey, theirs alot of people who 'slit' themselfs on here, considering in the teen life section.

No twasn't.

[sarey]

No twasn't.

k. Gd. Pers not every selfharmer does it for control, because sometimes that control is lost just like some anorexic people loose control.