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[fitcovboy]

looooooooool john woopsy daisy!! Anywho, it was 17t not 18!

Yes regardless of what it was traded for, i saw posts on another thread saying that the value was updated because you gave that value to -:Undertaker:- however there is more to consider on such supers, i for one cannot see that the future is bright for that super, Sulake seem to be doing their hardest to spoil the supers, they had enough re-coloured smokes they could have released, instead of the red one, i would say that more so than the last white smoke trade damaged the value, i am just glad that i traded my red smoke all that time ago. Anyway as stated, i believe everything taken into account, the guide value is now good.

[Pitch]

even though i quit, unlike your goodbye my split was amicable, and i sid i would continue to help dan in whatever way he asked, not everyone on the rare value team ill see a white smoke trade, althought some may report it, and not everyone will see other TRUE trades of super rares, but they are reported nonetheless, so i agreed to give some values that i saw or did myself, so far this being the only one that i have given. your signature is very annoying whilst im typing!!! :@

[fitcovboy]

even though i quit, unlike your goodbye my split was amicable, and i sid i would continue to help dan in whatever way he asked, not everyone on the rare value team ill see a white smoke trade, althought some may report it, and not everyone will see other TRUE trades of super rares, but they are reported nonetheless, so i agreed to give some values that i saw or did myself, so far this being the only one that i have given. your signature is very annoying whilst im typing!!! :@

My split was controversial, if something is wrong i say it, not try and butter it up, straight is the only way, the department HAD problems, i tried to resolve it behind the scenes and got no where, i am not biting my tongue for no one James, you should know this, as many RVR department said, things i said within the department they have thought about saying, but they would not in fear for their job, a job on a website that I am helping, i do not think so, if they do not appreciate me then basically **** them, sorry i tell it like it is, if i have an opinion why be humble about it? If i am wrong i will say i am wrong, and Sierk asked me to continue to update him, however i do not as that just sucks, yes continue to do the job without the title, eh no! I helped him today because i consider him a friend and he asked me to, but as for regular updates, well i might as well just go back to the department if i was going to do that.

[Pitch]

i also pointed out things that i didnt agree with, but quit before i got fired
I never once bit my tongue if your trying to insinuate that, I also got PMs, and rep from other RVR's for the threads i made. Dan is a close friend of mine, and I hate to see him struggle so i said id help with the odd super if he needed it. Dan isnt the only one who asked me by the way, alot of the reporters did, and as Dan is fair, i presume it was discussed before he actually changed it in the panel thingy.

[fitcovboy]

i also pointed out things that i didnt agree with, but quit before i got fired
I never once bit my tongue if your trying to insinuate that, I also got PMs, and rep from other RVR's for the threads i made. Dan is a close friend of mine, and I hate to see him struggle so i said id help with the odd super if he needed it. Dan isnt the only one who asked me by the way, alot of the reporters did, and as Dan is fair, i presume it was discussed before he actually changed it in the panel thingy.

I did not get fired, i quit the RVR dept and the Forum moderators job, and James if i was to quote from other sources, then you may not exactly like it, so i would quit trying to make me look bad mate. I was not saying you did not speak out, i was merely pointing out that i did!

[Pitch]

im not trying to make you look bad, im merely pointing out things that you might not have seen from my point of view. Anywhoo, the guide is based on what values are traded for, i gave the values, and the guide was changed to reflect this.

[fitcovboy]

The white smoke is way off, it jumped from 18T to 23T when only one of them have been traded and that was for a lot less than 18T, so justification? I know it does not matter how much habbox says it is, because no one in their right mind will be willing to pay 23T for one, i sold mine to NickG for 15T several months ago after many threads of trying to sell it, and with the release of the red smoke, it would further put people off buying them, the only way someone would pay 23T is if they were a noob and got given 100T or something!

[Tristan]

I guess because Boxiel sold his White smoke for 18T and a Gold Nelly or so he says. That must be why.

[Papershop]

Its boxiels word against ours.

[fitcovboy]

I guess because Boxiel sold his White smoke for 18T and a Gold Nelly or so he says. That must be why.

Well i know differently, as to why he made that thread is beyond me. I stated in his thread exactly what it was traded for.