The advance in robotics - Will we have to worry? - [Closes 24/05/07]

[Mentor]

I dont understand how a computer can have a conscious. How can we make something and have it know already that something is right and wrong without us telling it? It would have to have a real brain. And by time travel I mean go back in time. It's impossible since time isn't real. We made up time.

Quite easly really, a brain is just a very complex computer after all. The main difference is the brains functionalty is in the hardware, where as current computers work via the software a higher level of abstraction. Aka rather performing millions of very simple instructions to acheave something, the brains actual structure determins an outcome by the way an impulce travels through it. Aka a neural net. Computers can and have been built useing this principle. Working like an increibdly simplifed version of the human brain. Once quantom computing comes in to full swing computer technology will easly suppas are own abilty. Humans are programed in some ways, by are instricts, response pattens, defined by are inital brain strcuture, that structure changes through are life (actual phyiscal changes in positions of nurons etc)
Computers will eventaly be able to do the same, thus obtaining concusness.

Plus time is real? its a direction, like up or down, back or forward. Its just one of many in are 11 D universe, we just cant perseave of interact with most of them

Actually, we aren't flying, we're just riding in things that fly.

Thus flying? and the technolgy does exist to grow you a pair of wings (although prohibited due to religion/ethical issues) so if you only define flying under your own power as flying you can do that to.

Cheeper still, hire a large catapult.

[Dan2nd]

Thus flying? and the technolgy does exist to grow you a pair of wings (although prohibited due to religion/ethical issues) so if you only define flying under your own power as flying you can do that to.

Cheeper still, hire a large catapult.

omg that would be soo cool

[Mentor]

omg that would be soo cool

Simlar ish thing that was in fact allowed to be done, anyone heard of the ear mouse (human ear was grown on mouse's back).

Im sure google will provide pics if wanted

[reindeer.]

Rofl, no chance. The robot would only be as clever as the person who created it, and if they make it capable to take over the world then they are very stupid.

[Browney]

Thats impossible, because WE make them. A human has to program them to do something, thus we are automatically smarter or as smart as them. There's no way a robot can just get intelligence that we don't have.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but can't you get learning robots? Like if I sent a robot into a room and it took 25 steps and hit a wall, it would remember that 25 steps from it's original position is a wall? Or am I thinking like a mad man.

[RedStratocas]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but can't you get learning robots? Like if I sent a robot into a room and it took 25 steps and hit a wall, it would remember that 25 steps from it's original position is a wall? Or am I thinking like a mad man.

Yes, but we program it to learn how to learn how many steps to the wall. How can a robot something that we humans can't?

[Browney]

Yes, but we program it to learn how to learn how many steps to the wall. How can a robot something that we humans can't?

Ah. So it only learns what we tell it to learn. Ok, thanks.

[RedStratocas]

Ah. So it only learns what we tell it to learn. Ok, thanks.

Pretty much. You have to program it how to learn. Its why a toaster can't learn to fly, it's not programed to learn.

[Mentor]

Pretty much. You have to program it how to learn. Its why a toaster can't learn to fly, it's not programed to learn.

You have a very limited idea of how computers learn. Maybe read up on the evolution learning model, which uses a neural network (same system a human brain uses), set a 1000 of them up with the same challenge, you'' end up with quite a few different solutions, none coming from any human involvement.

There are alot of different forms computers can come in, its stupid to use just one as a model for all of them.

[Mr.Sam]

Well, conducters watch out - there is now a robot that conducts orchestras... although I'm not sure why they designed him to look like the conqueror of worlds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw7aqlWu640