Good points to be honest, as i said previously i'm going into veganism now, for some it's a long journey, over like 10 years, but meh, they're still cutting out abit of cruelty, also you're not taking notice of vegans/vegetarians who do it for health reasons. The hardest bit for me going vegan is cheese, but i've quit that for 2 weeks and going strong! ^_^ About the clothes etc, currently i wear leather trainers, absolutely despise them but going to wait till they wear out or i can give them to a mate: anyway: one could say that all the chemical processes used to make artificial shoes (forgot the word- tiredness) would actually harm more animals than buying a leather pair of trainers but *shrug*







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