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    Well if he hasn't got the time maybe he just needs to delegate more power elsewhere with regards to answering queries and stuff. Again I'm not sure what the Habbox Council thing is but I'm guessing it's a proposition for a user-based group who work with the management or something, which sounds like a good idea. Also, simply the existence of such a group would dispell these ideas of a "one man show" and should make the general populus happier even if it's crap and ineffective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    Totally agree Jay and nothing would be lost if it didn't work.At least we would know it didn't and move on if it was disbanded after a trial. There is nothing to fear but fear itself they say and playing safe can lead to a very stagnant situation indeed. I do think the whole reputation debate would have been avoided if the Council had been operating and although JRH is a great Admin there are many more positive Admin and management and staff who all have the best interests of Habbox and the members at heart including yourself and they know who they are including Nvr and Joshuar who really took the idea onboard.
    Exactly, if indeed things are discussed with some "council" member prior to the implementation of new features feedback can be given without a "reaction" period when things do happen. This would also mean that the management could get a very clear view of what the members want and could balance it with what they think is best which would hopefully resolve issues like this one. If it was set up in the correct way it could work very well and I am totally for helping out with it and as said even if it doesn't work it is no big deal, we will know that we'll need to look elsewhere for ideas on improvement between members and staff. I do think it should be trialled for sometime to this is it is beneficial to Habbox or not. I don't see any reason in feeling that there is no way the idea will work until it has been tested so I'm happy to go along with supporting the trialling of the council which would be nice to see.

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    Exactly, if indeed things are discussed with some "council" member prior to the implementation of new features feedback can be given without a "reaction" period when things do happen. This would also mean that the management could get a very clear view of what the members want and could balance it with what they think is best which would hopefully resolve issues like this one. If it was set up in the correct way it could work very well and I am totally for helping out with it and as said even if it doesn't work it is no big deal, we will know that we'll need to look elsewhere for ideas on improvement between members and staff. I do think it should be trialled for sometime to this is it is beneficial to Habbox or not. I don't see any reason in feeling that there is no way the idea will work until it has been tested so I'm happy to go along with supporting the trialling of the council which would be nice to see.
    I beleive before I resigned I remember MAD saying something about having a go at having it implicated in the new year (which is now...this year) though I may be mistaken!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammeth. View Post
    I beleive before I resigned I remember MAD saying something about having a go at having it implicated in the new year (which is now...this year) though I may be mistaken!
    No you are not mistaken .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ---MAD--- View Post
    No you are not mistaken .
    Sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opensourcehost View Post
    Sounds good.
    Though he never specified which part of the New Year It could be December for all we know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammeth. View Post
    Though he never specified which part of the New Year It could be December for all we know
    Or New Year 2010 - Sorry! No I think he has answered the question finally and all credit to him. Shame its a bit like pulling teeth to get an answer I will make a note in my diary to check the progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catzsy View Post
    Or New Year 2010 - Sorry! No I think he has answered the question finally and all credit to him. Shame its a bit like pulling teeth to get an answer I will make a note in my diary to check the progress.
    I hope something good comes of it, as I know a lot of members will want it to succeed. And with the right people Im sure it will !
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    *crycryslitslit* no-one's told me what this council thing is yet lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman View Post
    *crycryslitslit* no-one's told me what this council thing is yet lol
    I think Nvrspk gave the best idea, here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvrspk4
    Hey,

    Apologies for this thread going so long without a management reply, I was away Saturday and spent most of Sunday night replying to my 73 PMs and sorting out VIP problems I also apologize, because I've done a lot of work today, I took the liberty of reading to about page 15 and then reading about 4 pages between 15 and 30. So I am going to outline things that you may have suggested, I am not aiming to steal your idea, I simply was for once lazy and don't have the time to read 17 pages of the same stuff.

    One thing I will say, please, don't turn this into fights as I saw midway through. There is a good point in this thread, and I'd be really dissapointed if we had to shut one of the few civil discussions because some people decided that they just had to have a catfight in this thread. Accept that others may not share your views, and that doesn't mean they or you are wrong, it just means that you have different opinions, which is fine. Onto the replies.

    As far as the council idea, I think its terrific. Here's my ideas about it, and I apologize once again if I mention something someone else has suggested, its simply because I sorta skipped half the thread.


    Habbox Council is comprised of 21 members and an executive board of 5.

    Executive Board

    Management - 2
    Staff - 1
    Members - 1
    VIPs - 1

    General Council

    Management - 2 + 1 department manager
    Staff - 6
    Members - 6
    VIPs - 6


    Terms - Each member of the VIP and Member council are elected for two month "terms". After that, there is another election, where members may run again, or choose to let someone else. Members who have server 3 consecutive terms must sit out at least one term before trying to run again, to get fresh ideas in.


    Nominations - For members, nominations would be made in a closed forums where only admins could see the threads. The members with the top 20 votes would be looked through, and those who did not fit the criteria (see next section) would be removed. The top 5 of the remaining members would move on to general elections. Of the top 30 (eligible) members, management would also select 5 candidates. This way, there is an even match.

    Requirements - Candidates for Habbox Council must

    * Have less than 6 active infraction points.
    * Have no more than 2 bans (temporary).
    * Must have no less than 150 posts.
    * Must have been a member for at least 4 months (on the account they are running.)
    * Must be active and willing to listen to ideas



    "Elections" - The 10 candidates, selected by admins and members, would be put to a public vote, open for 7 days. The top 6 members would move on to become the Member Council Reps for those two months.

    VIPs - VIPs can nominate and vote in the normal elections, but they may also vote for and nominate VIP reps in a special VIP forum, and these VIP reps will serve as voicing the concerns of VIPs which I believe are underrepresented on the forums.

    Staff - Staff will function sort of differently, the staff will nominate one staff member (other than the manager) for that term, and the manager may opt to choose one member on top of that (not required). Then all managers will submit names to (A)GMs, who will then post a poll, allowing staff members to elect their 6 representatives. The (A)GMs will also post a poll with all the managers, and people will select who will accompany the two members of management to make up the management portion of the council. The same rules with terms apply to Staff and VIPs.


    Functions of the Council - To ensure that this doesn't become an "abuse of power" kind of thing, I don't believe that the council should be given the power to actually execute actions, such as to hire or fire people, or institute changes of their own accord. Otherwise people would run for the simple reason of gaining power, as opposed to representing members. The Council, therefore, would gather ideas and propose new ones, and discuss them in a closed forum, as well as taking in ideas from the Feedback Forum. Votes might be taken, however management will probably take this into account, but reserves the right to deny changes based on workability, difficulty to execute, danger to the safety of the board, limited resources, etc. etc.

    "Meetings" - There would probably be a Council Drop-In sort of thing with open stickies and also council members to take ideas, and sort of be a chill-out place. Also Council members could explain what they've been discussing, in addition to a perhaps biweekly summary posted on the forums, and perhaps a monthly Meet the Council type of thing? Each would have a little part in the thread, and in the Meet the Council thing on Habbo. However the main meeting place for the council itself would be the closed forums.

    Administration and Impeachment - Any council member who is banned permanantly, or for serious offences, will be removed from the council immediately, and replaced by the next runner up. Habbox Management will reserve the right to decide what serious offenses are, but if you get banned you really shouldn't be on Council, because that's just being irresponsible and unfair to your fellow members. For Staff, when they are fired they will be "impeached" from their position as the Staff Rep, and if they resign from all jobs it will also be considered a resignation from the Council. The next Runner Up will take their place. (This is why there will be more candidates for staff, we're more likely to lose someone to a resignation or a firing than to a banning.)


    That's just the basic layout, but what do you guys think? I'm open to suggestions, additions, or modifications.

    nvr
    Sammeth.

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