In regards to this new banning thing.

[Sammeth.]

No... The Manager of the Department should announce their assistants, otherwise they're not managers and they're not assistants. J1MI deals with everything forum related, MAD deals with the site. That's how it used to be and from experience, that worked better than someone who clearly would not of the time.

The GMs role, which was Site Manager, is to pretty much keep the ste running and let the Managers of the Site Departments report with any issues and new features they need to work properly. Not be over run by someone doing the job for them :rolleyes:

Yes, mate....The General Manager has always announced assistants and managers, even when 8freak8 was General Manager. You've never had a problem with it publicly for the last 2 years, so why now?

J1MI is a forum manager. He is on par with every other manager in the hierarchy. He isn't above them, he isn't below them. He has no rule over managers, as they are his equals. The forum is a department, just like the Help desk is, and Rare Values. J1MI doesn't announce managers, as he doesn't decide them, its the General Managers job and always has been. J1MI isn't higher than any other manager at Habbox, but because the forum is his department, of course, he has more powers on the forum to let him do his job. Just like manager of the help desk has more powers in the help desk, or the rare values manager has more powers on habbox.com to update the values. The forum is used by departments as a base of communication and organisation. Its like a big meeting point, but that doesn't allow J1MI to start doing jobs that he doesn't have the right to do.

J1MI knows he is a manager and is on par with other managers. Not above them. So he doesn't announce them.

I hope that made sense...when I have things in my head they don't always come out right in writing I know what I'm trying to say anyway, so thats all that matters :eusa_whis

Edit: Yeah, as J1MI said; Managers do give recommendations and reasons for who they want their assistant to be, but the overall decision is down to MAD or whoever the current GM may be at the time.

[GommeInc]

Nope, GM's are only allowed to hire someone who is going to be taking up an admin position as the AFM job is. It's always been this way, the FM does have a big say in who he want's as his assistant though. If you look back 8f8 or sierk always announced AFM's.

False, back when Jrh2002 was the forum owner/manager, he decided.

Yes, mate....The General Manager has always announced assistants and managers, even when 8freak8 was General Manager. You've never had a problem with it publicly for the last 2 years, so why now?

J1MI is a forum manager. He is on par with every other manager in the hierarchy. He isn't above them, he isn't below them. He has no rule over managers, as they are his equals. The forum is a department, just like the Help desk is, and Rare Values. J1MI doesn't announce managers, as he doesn't decide them, its the General Managers job and always has been. J1MI isn't higher than any other manager at Habbox, but because the forum is his department, of course, he has more powers on the forum to let him do his job. Just like manager of the help desk has more powers in the help desk, or the rare values manager has more powers on habbox.com to update the values. The forum is used by departments as a base of communication and organisation. Its like a big meeting point, but that doesn't allow J1MI to start doing jobs that he doesn't have the right to do.

J1MI knows he is a manager and is on par with other managers. Not above them. So he doesn't announce them.

I hope that made sense...when I have things in my head they don't always come out right in writing I know what I'm trying to say anyway, so thats all that matters :eusa_whis

Edit: Yeah, as J1MI said; Managers do give recommendations and reasons for who they want their assistant to be, but the overall decision is down to MAD or whoever the current GM may be at the time.

Most of what you said contradicted itself. J1MI isn't higher than other people and he isn't lower, well he surely is considering most of the Managers are AGMs and he is higher than other people according to you because he has more powers on the forum. I never said J1MI should announce other managers, but he should have a say in Forum Adminstrators, Moderators and Super Moderators, much like a News Manager decides News Reporters, Editors etc.

[J1MI]

False, back when Jrh2002 was the forum owner/manager, he decided.

No offense but read what you have posted? "Jrh2002 was the forum owner".

I hope that made sense...when I have things in my head they don't always come out right in writing I know what I'm trying to say anyway, so thats all that matters :eusa_whis

Lol awww, yeah it did come out right Sammeth, don't worry. *Pats on head*

[JackHb]

No offense but read what you have posted? "Jrh2002 was the forum owner".



Lol awww, yeah it did come out right Sammeth, don't worry. *Pats on head*

He was the forum owner

[GommeInc]

No offense but read what you have posted? "Jrh2002 was the forum owner".



Lol awww, yeah it did come out right Sammeth, don't worry. *Pats on head*

Exactly, so why can't you have such powers? Yes he was the owner, but he was the manager, and the manager manages the forum (thus the name forum manager, coincidently). So why can't you pick your staff to help manage the forum? Your title is Forum Technician or Assistant Forum Manager if anything "/

Mobile Devices sub-forum
---MAD---
--ss-- now a Forum Super Moderator.
---MAD---
mat64 now a Forum Super Moderator.
---MAD---
Garion now a forum moderator.
---MAD---

Please explain why MAD did your managing job, if you please

[JackHb]

J1MI should have announced the forum super moderators.
Back when Seacat was Forum Manager, Seacat would announce the new forum super moderators

[GommeInc]

Indeed, and the excuse "the GM announces them when the Forum Manager isn't around" isn't a valid excuse... Who made the decision then, the GM or the Forum Manager? Makes no sense even further. Looking at Habbox from a members point of view, it all makes very little sense who does what. There seems to be trust issues.

[Sammeth.]

False, back when Jrh2002 was the forum owner/manager, he decided.


Most of what you said contradicted itself. J1MI isn't higher than other people and he isn't lower, well he surely is considering most of the Managers are AGMs and he is higher than other people according to you because he has more powers on the forum. I never said J1MI should announce other managers, but he should have a say in Forum Adminstrators, Moderators and Super Moderators, much like a News Manager decides News Reporters, Editors etc.

He has more powers on the forum, as its his department and he needs those powers to do his job. Just like Immenseman has privileges that J1MI doesn't have on Habbox.com, so he can do his job as Rare Values manager. Though all are equal in terms of a hierarchy is what I was trying to say.

And talking about contradictions....

I never said J1MI should announce other managers

Also, about butting into someones job e.g. the Forum Managers job, here are a few things he or Elkaa should of posted...

H0BJ0B now Assistant Radio Manager.
---MAD---
Yum999 now assistant news manager.
---MAD---

[GommeInc]

He has more powers on the forum, as its his department and he needs those powers to do his job. Just like Immenseman has privileges that J1MI doesn't have on Habbox.com, so he can do his job as Rare Values manager. Though all are equal in terms of a hierarchy is what I was trying to say.

And talking about contradictions....

And underneath that comes this part:

And:

J1MI takes over as Forum Manager.
---MAD---

Which seems to be the biggest Habbox Lie of 2007. MAD, you are doing someone elses job, so either you change your title to 'Site Manager' or you fire J1MI, or demote him to a lower title, because he is far from a Forum Manager. There are also announcements which should of been made by a News Manager, Radio Manager.

[Sammeth.]

And underneath that comes this part:

Okay...well I think this is just a matter of splitting hairs at the end of the day. Sometimes managers ask ---MAD--- or nvrspk4 to do an announcement for them if they don't have time etc. So you never know. I'm not saying thats definatly what has happened, but you shouldn't leap to the conclusion MAD has intruded on their job, when he could have been asked.

And at the end of the day its just an announcement. I'm sure J1MI doesn't mind. It may even give him extra time to help improve the forum