DevelopTomorrow - E-Learning

[Megalal]

if you're moaning about how we're a 'hAbbo' related forum then dont come advertising a project here. Anyway most of us dont play habbo and have, well, an unpleasant past with darren.

Sounds similar to a project myself and someone were going to do but exams took the better of me lol. To be quite honest, develop tomorrow is a very bad name for what its meant to do. You'd want to 'develop today' - not tomorrow. Also, Im guessing that you have come up with that name since your initials are DT

You shouldn't really ask businesses for sponsorship before your website and business plan is completed. So I say good luck but I wouldn't expect many people who know you to join this

I never wanted Darren to advertise the project here, I don't get on with Habbo forums at all. The majority of people are moody teenagers that are so far up their own *****, they can't be bothered to get on with people.

An unpleasant past eh? If you get to know him, you know that, when stressed, he can be a seriously horrible person, bit if you desist the agitation, he is actually a great person to work with. As I said, none of you actually know him.

Really shows how much you know. Are you aware if we have a sponsor or not? If you bothered to do a tiny bit of research, such as reading the business plan, you would know we were sponsored by a UK hosting company.

So please, learn something about the project before you start making judgments.

Thanks Beathost, I generally am a mature person.

[seniorJOSH]

I am Darren's Business Partner here. Some of you seriously have no life, holding a grudge against someone on a HABBO RELATED FORUM. I doubt any of you truly know Darren, and you just know him because of what he behaves like on this forum.

I am really interested in this project, that's why I am becoming Darren's partner and taking profit instead of cash pay. Ask Darren, I never, never code for free unless I am seriously interested in the project.

So some of you should learn the facts, stop holding a grudge against someone you don't even know and improve your attitude in general.

And Josh, you are just pathetic. You were threatening to sue someone for a bit of TEXT! Sorry mate, but you can't copyright the posistioning of a piece of white text. Before you go mouthing off again with your huge mouth, learn the laws, the implications and limitations of them and when you can actually file a complaint.

Thanks

Edited by SyrupyMonkey (Forum Moderator): Please be polite to all members! Thanks.

Hey, we sorted that problem, I have no grudge with Darren.
But, I treated it with him maturely, yet he starts to insult me
and saying I cannot design, when he claims he is a professional?

[kk.]

For one, I'm 17 studying business and economics so dont start preaching to me about how to set up a company. If you had any business sense you would have at least a concept of what the site will look like. And if that's what you think a business plan looks like then you are sadly mistaken. It should outline everything you want to do, achieve, rough estimates of profits/income, how to get these an much more.

I'm guessing you've seen dragons den? No-one would ever get past the first hurdle if you turned up with an idea with no design, nothing to show for it or practicly nothing done apart from brainstorming ideas on a peice of paper. A hosting company isn't really that much, a lot of people get them and they must not be a very well ran company if hey have agreed to give you money with nothing.

As for darrens past, I knew him for about 3 months (when I as knee I meant have seen his posts and failed attempts at businesses. You should never get angered at what people say or at least not show it. Even you said he has a temper.

So please dontjoin and start moaning about how we are all moody teenagers because a lot of us are over the age of 16 and are actually intelligent people.

[sgraham]

Whilst I hold no grudge against you personally Darren, I find from your past echos a very similar situation; staff leaving due to disputes on your part. Whilst I commend you are trying to better the business education of young adults, I think you personally, need to take your own course as you and your partners public relation skills are totally unacceptable and very insulting.

You say DevelopTommorow is aimed at "young adults aged between 12 - 21", however your business partner clearly has no intention of connecting with his audience by his rude and inconsiderate post.

Furthermore, in your business plan you put forward that your competitor is Learn Direct, however understandably as you stated, that specific education environment caters to the re-education of the adult market and therefore isn't considered a high-risk competitor.

What I find worrying is that you have failed to do research in to established courses that are aimed at the very same market, such as the OCR Nationals in ICT by @tain (here) which I myself have taken part in, and has given me the GCSE equivalents of two A*'s and 2 A's and offers a far superior online learning environment with a whole department dedicated to it's development and a one of the countries leading schools which I am privileged to attend, is funded partly through it's profits.

To put it bluntly, I really don't think you have a chance. I find that you lack business acumen and you are yet again, entering an already saturated market.

Good luck.

[DarrenToogood]

I also study OCR Nationals, however that is a school thing, and not studied online in the form in which we are going to present.

[kk.]

is that honestly all you can say to us both? Your apparent partner has been rude and condesending? I would never use it

[DarrenToogood]

He has been rude to those who have been rude to us.

[kk.]

I have only voiced my opinion about the project and your past on here. You probably left for the reason that no one actually liked you in the d+d forums... And that's still the case by the looks of it. He has no idea what went off in them so he can have no opinion on our opinion of you. He seems a very naive person to think were all childish just because its called habboxforum

[sgraham]

I beg to differ, the OCR Nationals course is based entirely online and presented in the medium that you are proposing in your business plan, being in an existing education enviroment in totally irrelevant.

Not only that, but as you stressed in your business plan, your target market is "young adults aged between 12 - 21", and only in extreme cases do not have access to an approved course in ICT (e.g. OCR Nationals or GNVQ), that not only offer a structured curriculum to develop the necessary skills for a future in ICT, but offer the GCSEs/A-Levels to back it.

I believe you need to take a step back, have a look where this project is heading, taking all things in to consideration, make a balanced risk assessment.

To your above post, I have now lost all faith in this project, you public relation skills are appauling and your total lack of business ethics have put this project on a path to nowhere.

[Source]

I find it funny how the new 'business partner' has the cheek to insult some members on the forum, some of which could probably code better than he can, create better graphics than both of them and run a business properly.

Rather than insulting people I actually think you should listen to what they are saying and try to learn from it. Everyone makes mistakes, it just depends on whether you choose to learn from them or continue to ignorantly dismiss them.