Automatic cars?

[tdi]

also...

A manual has marginal better fuel economy, but when it comes to emissions.. I don't think it has any effect.

Let's use a typical affordable family car as an example, a Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X.. First figure's Manual, the other one's Auto

Weight (kg): 1386 - 1432
Top Speed (mph): 134 - 118
0-60 (s): 9.6 - 11.1
Power (bhp): 142 - 142
MPG: 36 - 31
CO2 Emissions (g/kg): 187 - 218
Tax Band: J (£235) - K (£245)

[Black_Apalachi]

it's only the first couple times in the car

[Dentafrice]

also...

I work on cars for a living, and I don't know where you're getting your statistics.

We have to inspect cars on a daily basis, and do emissions testing on them for them to be driven.

It doesn't matter if it's a manual or an automatic, the PPM is so marginal, on the same car.. that you can't classify it as mattering.

Those emissions numbers can change though depending on how you drive it, and how you modify it.

[tdi]

I work on cars for a living, and I don't know where you're getting your statistics.

We have to inspect cars on a daily basis, and do emissions testing on them for them to be driven.

It doesn't matter if it's a manual or an automatic, the PPM is so marginal, on the same car.. that you can't classify it as mattering.

Those emissions numbers can change though depending on how you drive it, and how you modify it.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/

even if manuals were worse on fuel and tax, emissions etc i'd choose a manual still.

[N!ck]

Autos have worse emission stats because of the lower MPG. More fuel burned = more emissions .

Edit: Wait, ignore that. I didn't realise what the units were. I thought it was to do with emissions per mile.

[Dentafrice]

Autos have worse emission stats because of the lower MPG. More fuel burned = more emissions .

Edit: Wait, ignore that. I didn't realise what the units were. I thought it was to do with emissions per mile.

But see you don't understand.. it's your driving style that effects your emissions.

If you constantly are "raping" your vehicle, your emissions are going to be worse then an automatic.

The engine is the same in both cars.. the engine burns the gas.. not the transmission.. the transmission just effects the way the output energy gets to the rear/front wheels.

It's marginal.

[N!ck]

But see you don't understand.. it's your driving style that effects your emissions.

If you constantly are "raping" your vehicle, your emissions are going to be worse then an automatic.

The engine is the same in both cars.. the engine burns the gas.. not the transmission.. the transmission just effects the way the output energy gets to the rear/front wheels.

It's marginal.

Yes, I was correct in my first part though, my edit is wrong.

Emissions are measured in g/km therefore if an auto gets less miles per gallon then it's going to burn more fuel than a manual car per km that it travels and therefore emit more gasses. But yes, if you're raping your engine in a manual then you're going to burn a hell of a lot more fuel and emit more.

Anyway, manuals are for real drivers.

[tdi]

Yes, I was correct in my first part though, my edit is wrong.

Emissions are measured in g/km therefore if an auto gets less miles per gallon then it's going to burn more fuel than a manual car per km that it travels and therefore emit more gasses. But yes, if you're raping your engine in a manual then you're going to burn a hell of a lot more fuel and emit more.

Anyway, manuals are for real drivers.

I agree. Loads more fun to be had.

[Metric1]

But see you don't understand.. it's your driving style that effects your emissions.

If you constantly are "raping" your vehicle, your emissions are going to be worse then an automatic.

The engine is the same in both cars.. the engine burns the gas.. not the transmission.. the transmission just effects the way the output energy gets to the rear/front wheels.

It's marginal.

I rape my mothers car, I don't rape my own Manuals are TOO much work in my opinion!

[Dentafrice]

I rape my mothers car, I don't rape my own Manuals are TOO much work in my opinion!

I agree.