Should the United Kingdom leave the European Union?

[Ardemax]

^ meant to add before the lisbon treaty

the european union today is still more economical and at the answer to what wars EU has stopped, well seeing how there's been none between 2 eu countries since the EU was set up then I think it's worked

btw NATO stopped the USSR on a storm because NATO is a military based organisation

but would anyone agree on the death penatly? i know some friends that actually do

[-:Undertaker:-]

^ meant to add before the lisbon treaty

the european union today is still more economical and at the answer to what wars EU has stopped, well seeing how there's been none between 2 eu countries since the EU was set up then I think it's worked

btw NATO stopped the USSR on a storm because NATO is a military based organisation

but would anyone agree on the death penatly? i know some friends that actually do

You can't say something has worked because a very vague war has not occured, because infact, there have been wars in Europe since the EU was set up in the 90s. On the topic of the death penalty, i'm personally in favour of it and I would like a referendum on it to be held in the United Kingdom; however, it is up to my people and my government to make that choice, not the European Union.

[Ardemax]

What wars are those Undertaker?

[Ajthedragon]

Yeah, they're the reason that we have so much tax's on gas and petrol, they're the reason why fruit became so expensive, and they're the reason (and Gordon Brown) we're at the heart of an immigration scandal.

[Ontario]

Wow i can't believe the amount of people who said yes.

Of course NO!
The UK doesn't need to leave. People are so scared that this Lisbon treaty will mean the end of our country's independence which is absolute crap.

The UK doesn't need to be in the EU to be successful but its certainly makes it easier for our country to have a say on the world platform.

[Wig44.]

Wow i can't believe the amount of people who said yes.

Of course NO!
The UK doesn't need to leave. People are so scared that this Lisbon treaty will mean the end of our country's independence which is absolute crap.

The UK doesn't need to be in the EU to be successful but its certainly makes it easier for our country to have a say on the world platform.

But being in the EU has the totally opposite effect - we do not have more of a say. We have far less of a say and I'm afraid it is a fact that our government is powerless to stop unelected brussels bureaucrats now. The EU is centralised and undemocratic.

Ardemax: Slovenian War 1991, Kosovo War 1998-1999, Bosnian War 1992-1995 and the Croatian War of Independence 1991-1995. And this is just in the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

[Ardemax]

if it was so un-democratic then surely it wouldn't have a european parliament

[Wig44.]

if it was so un-democratic then surely it wouldn't have a european parliament

Besides having 84% of our laws set by bureaucrats in Brussels who we haven't voted for, with our government being powerless to stop them, the EU is a post-democratic organisation. Even when you still have a vote it is devalued.

[Pyroka]

I think the mistake people make in the whole EU thing, is that its like how Nazi Germany tried to invade countries to make it one huge state. EU are doing exactly the same thing, except theyre going for it at a different angle. The methods are different but in the end the result is gonna be the same.

Bleh blummin EU, id rather be out of it but most of the fatcats would like to just sit in their chairs getting paid a bomb for the EU to steer their country. I mean you're getting your job done for you right? Thats why Labour wont exit... Theyd rather sit on their arses doing nothing and getting paid whilst the EU flies around with their crappy laws. I mean for gods sake, sound restrictions? >.> It's gonna be more like a health and safety state, horrible.

EU just have to make one wrong decision though, just one to piss a country off then all the others will be like ***, thus alienating and kaboom no more EU yay. Can you tell I dont do much politics? LOL.

[Wig44.]

I think the mistake people make in the whole EU thing, is that its like how Nazi Germany tried to invade countries to make it one huge state. EU are doing exactly the same thing, except theyre going for it at a different angle. The methods are different but in the end the result is gonna be the same.

Bleh blummin EU, id rather be out of it but most of the fatcats would like to just sit in their chairs getting paid a bomb for the EU to steer their country. I mean you're getting your job done for you right? Thats why Labour wont exit... Theyd rather sit on their arses doing nothing and getting paid whilst the EU flies around with their crappy laws. I mean for gods sake, sound restrictions? >.> It's gonna be more like a health and safety state, horrible.

EU just have to make one wrong decision though, just one to piss a country off then all the others will be like ***, thus alienating and kaboom no more EU yay. Can you tell I dont do much politics? LOL.

In the UK's case, 'they' have pissed us off a lot of times witha lot of silly decisions. Nothing happened though.