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    The MP for lib dems, conservative and labour came into our college and elts just say, it was clear that the lib dem ws the most popular.

    Somebody asked the conservative: ' if your from bury why are you here, did nobody want you there? why would we vote in your party which is full of middle class scum who act and talk funny like you' Lets say he wernt impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    The nationally elected governments and europol are directly accountable to EUparl.

    We already do, we aren't in the Schengen area.

    Have you ever travelled from one european state to the next, IE Germany to France, France to Germany, Belgium to France? I have, and not once do you see a border guard or border post, apart from a sign. We have complete control over our borders, how about you start and say why we don't? Would you prefer the British economy is kept inefficient with shortages? How can you argue that low wages put british people OUT of work? It's completely the opposite.

    Why do you cry on about something that i'm not talking about? Is your turntable ok? you sound like a broken record.
    We do not have control over our borders with the European Union, listen alex its either a open-borders policy the European Union has in place (which you say is a good thing) or its not there at all and its been invented by the European Union. By regaining control over our own borders we are not hurting the economy, infact we are helping it. If you have controlled borders (includes EU-nations) then you allow those you who need/want to come in thus benefitting the economy. With open borders, people can come from the EU/gain access to the European Union and then have free access to the United Kingdom which attracts people because of its lax asylum laws and benefits system.

    The low wages issue is an issue, many do not bother to work because they would be worse off both because of the benefits system and the taxation system. The workers coming into the United Kingdom drive down the costs thus many British people do not work. Granted, many are lazy but that adds to my point that we do not need more lazy people coming into this country from abroad which only makes the problem worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexxxxx View Post
    that's nothing to do with the EU, that's to do with the inefficiencies of our own border force.
    People from the European Union have free movement and the rest of it, it is to do with the open-borders policy of the European Union hence why its so much of a problem, it has not been invented.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyDuo View Post
    True story.

    We have 2.5 Million illegal immigrants in this country that it will cost £10 Billion to find, that's £10 Billion that we don't have. Instead the Liberal Democrats accept that they are here and rather than just leaving them hidden they propose an amnesty where those who have been here for over 10 years and have assimilated with the population can stay. It's a good idea because it's near impossible to find them hence the £10 Billion figure and whilst they are illegals they are not paying tax. I mean at the end of the day, we can't find these people so the very least we can do is tax them and therefore ensure that high standards of welfare for the people who are here legally.
    The figure I am sure stands at just under 1 million and is not at the figure yourself and the Liberal Democrats have given which is 2.5 million to justify your lax policy. A large proportion of these people are most likely involved in crime and do not work and have no intentions of working, hence why they are illegal immigrants. I do not want our NHS, benefits system and so forth to continue to be abused by these people and their children until they die hence why I and the vast majority of people want them deported.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smits
    The MP for lib dems, conservative and labour came into our college and elts just say, it was clear that the lib dem ws the most popular.

    Somebody asked the conservative: ' if your from bury why are you here, did nobody want you there? why would we vote in your party which is full of middle class scum who act and talk funny like you' Lets say he wernt impressed.
    The part about the shoutout is quite sad really and no doubt the kid thought he was a right smart arse with repeating what his parents have no doubt told him whilst reading their Daily Mirror. What I am eager to know is, does that child (who I assume supports the Liberal Democrats) know that Nick Clegg is from a background which is as posh and affluent as the one which David Cameron came from?

    I'd place my money on no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    We do not have control over our borders with the European Union, listen alex its either a open-borders policy the European Union has in place (which you say is a good thing) or its not there at all and its been invented by the European Union. By regaining control over our own borders we are not hurting the economy, infact we are helping it. If you have controlled borders (includes EU-nations) then you allow those you who need/want to come in thus benefitting the economy. With open borders, people can come from the EU/gain access to the European Union and then have free access to the United Kingdom which attracts people because of its lax asylum laws and benefits system.

    The low wages issue is an issue, many do not bother to work because they would be worse off both because of the benefits system and the taxation system. The workers coming into the United Kingdom drive down the costs thus many British people do not work. Granted, many are lazy but that adds to my point that we do not need more lazy people coming into this country from abroad which only makes the problem worse.



    People from the European Union have free movement and the rest of it, it is to do with the open-borders policy of the European Union hence why its so much of a problem, it has not been invented.



    The figure I am sure stands at just under 1 million and is not at the figure yourself and the Liberal Democrats have given which is 2.5 million to justify your lax policy. A large proportion of these people are most likely involved in crime and do not work and have no intentions of working, hence why they are illegal immigrants. I do not want our NHS, benefits system and so forth to continue to be abused by these people and their children until they die hence why I and the vast majority of people want them deported.

    The part about the shoutout is quite sad really and no doubt the kid thought he was a right smart arse with repeating what his parents have no doubt told him whilst reading their Daily Mirror. What I am eager to know is, does that child (who I assume supports the Liberal Democrats) know that Nick Clegg is from a background which is as posh and affluent as the one which David Cameron came from?

    I'd place my money on no.
    Nah he did sound a bit stupid. Dont get me wrong the tory did talk weird and moved his hands a lot, but he was from a farm in bury and was not middle class at all. He answered quite well, saying he was offended and he may use his arms but he's no actor & that he doesnt judge people by class, got a decent clap for it.

    Most people in the room cant even vote so it was a bit pointless, some decent points raised and questions answered regarding local things anyway. I'd have to say judging by that talk i'd say lib dems, followed by conservatives, followed by labour. For the MP representing burnley anyway.
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    The surge is a bubble that could be so easily burst tomorrow. Just one quick line, a slip of the tongue. All eyes are on Clegg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyDuo View Post
    True story.

    We have approximately 1 Million illegal immigrants in this country that it will cost £10 Billion to find, that's £10 Billion that we don't have. Instead the Liberal Democrats accept that they are here and rather than just leaving them hidden they propose an amnesty where those who have been here for over 10 years and have assimilated with the population can stay. It's a good idea because it's near impossible to find them hence the £10 Billion figure and whilst they are illegals they are not paying tax. I mean at the end of the day, we can't find these people so the very least we can do is tax them and therefore ensure that high standards of welfare for the people who are here legally.
    Sorry but this policy is a complete joke and in no way you can possibly support this. here are the problems with it.

    1) The 1 million illegals are a drain on resources and are therefore a strain on the system and should be kicked out once we find them.

    2) If we let the 1 million stay, then new illegal immigrants will say the "well they stayed so i should"

    3) They could of been criminals before they came to our country. Would you want 1 million criminals roaming the streets?

    4) There is no way to prove that they have been here for over 10 years and that they have not committed any criminal activitys whilst here.

    Therefore this policy by the liberals is an utter shambles and anyone who would want to impliment such a stupid policy is quite frankly stupid themselves.
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    I think tonights debate will be a great chance for the Conservatives to stay on top and increase their lead. Then again, Lib Dems are excpected to do preety good too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sameer! View Post
    I think tonights debate will be a great chance for the Conservatives to stay on top and increase their lead. Then again, Lib Dems are excpected to do preety good too..
    What channel and what the programme called?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapidshare View Post
    What channel and what the programme called?
    Sky News Channel, Sky 3 and BBC News 24 at 8pm-9:30pm. Sadly it's on no terrestrial channels but News 24 can be watched online; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm

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