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[Hecktix]

And this is why Habbox management should be more open rather than conspiring together in an MSN chat window. You alienate your members

We are much more open than most other fansites in our league and people forget that we're one of the most open to ideas too, especially over the past 18 months or so.

[Chippiewill]

We are much more open than most other fansites in our league and people forget that we're one of the most open to ideas too, especially over the past 18 months or so.

It's not so much being open to ideas, it's also about opening up your own ideas and such.

[Hecktix]

It's not so much being open to ideas, it's also about opening up your own ideas and such.

We do this a lot more than previous management I tend to find - I don't really remember many times beyond the past year where all 4 members of General Management actively posted in feedback bouncing ideas around and even interacting with members on the Hotel, that is said with no disrespect to previous management but they were very much more closed and did this a lot less than we do, we can't reveal everything to members as that's not how these kind of things work.

[HotelUser]

It's not so much being open to ideas, it's also about opening up your own ideas and such.

I'd say there's a division between what's appropriate to discuss with users and what's inappropriate and would give the appearance of unprofessionalism as well as the undoubtable amount of additional arguing that would take place between users and the management team if certain things were discussed, and other things more in depth.

Compared to Habbox past feedback today is much more fluid and all the more welcome.

[Chippiewill]

We do this a lot more than previous management I tend to find - I don't really remember many times beyond the past year where all 4 members of General Management actively posted in feedback bouncing ideas around and even interacting with members on the Hotel, that is said with no disrespect to previous management but they were very much more closed and did this a lot less than we do, we can't reveal everything to members as that's not how these kind of things work.

I disagree, General management very rarely put out their own ideas for discussion and development and will usually just take an initial idea and add a little to it. And it's not so much all four members actively posting, it's all four members actively discussing amongst themselves and then sending you off with the general decision of how to react.

[Hecktix]

I disagree, General management very rarely put out their own ideas for discussion and development and will usually just take an initial idea and add a little to it. And it's not so much all four members actively posting, it's all four members actively discussing amongst themselves and then sending you off with the general decision of how to react.

I disagree, you only have to look in feedback threads to see General Management discussing their thoughts with people, at the end of the day we are put in these positions to make decisions and sometimes these decisions are going to be disliked - as David said, there are things which are right to discuss and things which aren't, we're pretty good at discussing the things which are right to discuss with the public, definitely in comparison with former General Management teams (I'm not saying they were wrong to do this either).

[Chippiewill]

I disagree, you only have to look in feedback threads to see General Management discussing their thoughts with people, at the end of the day we are put in these positions to make decisions and sometimes these decisions are going to be disliked - as David said, there are things which are right to discuss and things which aren't, we're pretty good at discussing the things which are right to discuss with the public, definitely in comparison with former General Management teams (I'm not saying they were wrong to do this either).

You may occasionally put an idea or a thought forward in part of a discussion however you will never have an idea or a thought that'll provoke discussion that you put out for forum members to dwell upon. I'm not sure when the last time general management had a good idea that wasn't provoked by forum members. Unprovoked ideas that management have are never put forward to users to be developed and improved and are simply put out as part of updates.

[Hecktix]

You may occasionally put an idea or a thought forward in part of a discussion however you will never have an idea or a thought that'll provoke discussion that you put out for forum members to dwell upon. I'm not sure when the last time general management had a good idea that wasn't provoked by forum members. Unprovoked ideas that management have are never put forward to users to be developed and improved and are simply put out as part of updates.

We don't need member approval for our ideas though, that's the thing, member feedback is listened to however this should not turn into members discussing the ideas that management put forward for the site, we're in these positions to manage the site, we do what we do and users are welcome to feedback afterwards, that's how a hierachy works, Habbox isn't democratic, wouldn't work if it was democratic and won't ever be democratic.

[Chippiewill]

We don't need member approval for our ideas though, that's the thing, member feedback is listened to however this should not turn into members discussing the ideas that management put forward for the site, we're in these positions to manage the site, we do what we do and users are welcome to feedback afterwards, that's how a hierachy works, Habbox isn't democratic, wouldn't work if it was democratic and won't ever be democratic.

That's a bit of a 'Shoot first ask questions later' kind of scenario, it's not so much asking for permission from users but allowing users to develop an idea further so that it's better when it first arrives. You can either not ask and put out a nice idea poorly conceived or ask and put out a nice idea well conceived.

[Hecktix]

That's a bit of a 'Shoot first ask questions later' kind of scenario, it's not so much asking for permission from users but allowing users to develop an idea further so that it's better when it first arrives. You can either not ask and put out a nice idea poorly conceived or ask and put out a nice idea well conceived.

So you are saying when managers don't ask users what we do is poor? Interesting, that's not what gets us into these positions.