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    All hail Amun-Re

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    I strongly believe in a higher power.


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    I do believe in God.

    I just, find it incredibly hard to believe - the world is here by chance, I mean the chance of a big bang even happening, at the right time, with the right "chemicals" and producing every planet, solar system, sun etc. in exactly the right place - the chances are almost impossible.

    Also, I find it hard to believe that there is "Nothing up there" , that everything we do is just "luck and chance" it's better to feel - you have some supreme being watching over your life - rather than feeling abandoned.

    I am also very skeptical about the fact - there is life beyond the solar system, a camera can lie you know God could have put fake images in the telescope - anything's possible.

    But I am only Christian after a dream I had about God/Heaven - which made me convert - so I guess, you have to have a big event which can convert you.

    (Only my opinion though, not saying I'm right or anyone else is wrong).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wig44. View Post
    There is one thing that I can never understand about a lot of christians. The Bible is the word of God, if you disagree with any part of the Bible, you disagree with God. Everyone saying 'maybe he didn't make earth in 7 days buy THERE ARE THINGS CANNOT BE EXPLAIN BY SCIENCE THAT MEANS GOD IS REAL' are in direct contradiction with the Bible, you don't believe in the christian God. You are therefore believing in your own God, one you have tailored to get around your doubts - this all stems from a human tendency to believe in a higher being when there isn't one. It's ridiculous really.
    I believe in conservatism but I might disagree with certain parts, does this mean I do not agree with the entire belief? no, it clearly doesn't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost_Addict View Post
    The Big Bang theory doesn't make sence for me in the fact that chemicals randomly collided? If there was no universe where the hell did the chemicals come from haha. It's a hard one that can never be proven right or wrong until you die. People must also remember that about 95% of science is theoretical and infact not facts, so by calling the other option fact it's very narrow minded.
    bro you should research the big bang theory b4 u enter a debate and put ur useless argument forward

    ill wait for some1 puts forward a decent theological or philisophical argument b4 i argue


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    Quote Originally Posted by le harry View Post
    bro you should research the big bang theory b4 u enter a debate and put ur useless argument forward

    ill wait for some1 puts forward a decent theological or philisophical argument b4 i argue
    It's a theory for a reason, the Big Bang Theory itself isn't exact its only going by assumption, experiments and ideas (you know, a theory?) so his argument isn't useless at all. Infact, his argument is more of a description of the big bang theory - a theory which isn't actual fact. It's just more easier to understand as there is strong evidence to suggest x created y etc etc.
    Last edited by GommeInc; 13-08-2011 at 03:01 PM.

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    While you can't disprove that a god exists, you can show that, through relevant sciences, once isn't necessary to explain anything.

    God is a poor explanation we fit to things in the world which we observe but can’t explain (the Greeks used it more, as they needed more explaining) - It's easy to point to a god, while thinking logically about something requires effort and intelligence.

    As I mentioned earlier, the Greeks had an array of gods which they believed in to explain/feel in-control of certain aspects of the observable world, such as: light, the sea, mountains, shadows, drunkenness, air, etc. Science has since explained/modeled these in great detail, and so nobody needs these gods any more.

    As a further example, in the last few centuries, who would have thought a tiny thing called a virus, 50,000 times smaller than a pin head could make someone seriously ill and in many instances kill them? Everybody put it down to god.
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    If God is a being with conciousness who set in stage the whole 'universe' thing, then no, if God is a higher power beyond our understanding that led to the very beginning of 'nothing' that led to 'existence' then perhaps so. Perhaps God, if you boil it down, is a simple calculation that created the universe or at least set things in motion. He has no conciousness, he's not even a 'he' and, perhaps interestingly, he might be dead; the universe only happens once you know.

    I'm agnostic-theist so I'm very open to anything that people talk about. I'm not sure if this is based around belief or is based around interpretation of facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wig44.
    maybe he didn't make earth in 7 days
    It doesn't say 'days', it says 'dais', which means any length of time. For all we know the universe is still being made.
    Last edited by Fez; 15-08-2011 at 02:10 AM.

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    Im a rather simple guy, with a complex frame of mind hidden.

    You show me a God, and I will believe it.
    You say he is there, but cannot prove it, then good chance he is not there.

    As of right now in life, I gotta go with science and say I doubt it.

    Scientific evidence points towards evolution... bottom line.
    I am not going to get into that because there is no need to.

    The only question left unanswered for those who believe in God is: How did God come about?
    And for non-believers or science related: How was the universe created.

    ***And note the capitalized G in God. Just because I do not belive in him, does not mean I have the right to totally blow off the fact that there is always chance he is existent and that others do believe... many very deeply Please make sure to have respect of those with faith of a God.***
    Last edited by bootydrop; 15-08-2011 at 03:43 AM. Reason: clicked enter too early

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootydrop View Post
    ***And note the capitalized G in God. Just because I do not belive in him, does not mean I have the right to totally blow off the fact that there is always chance he is existent and that others do believe... many very deeply Please make sure to have respect of those with faith of a God.***
    It's grammatically incorrect to use a capital G in "god", unless you're referring to a specific god who is called God.

    Correct uses:
    Christians worship God.
    Christians worship their god.
    Last edited by Apolva; 15-08-2011 at 08:53 AM.

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