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    Quote Originally Posted by jasey View Post
    I still don't understand how so many people get their jollies obsessing over something so minor as this. It's Habbox, not PayPal. Traffic has been declining for years now and the majority of Habbox's userbase is focused solely on the forum which is also wilted compared to what it once used to be. I get that it's an important site for many people but when something so minor like this happens — if you think habbox.com's nameservers getting redirected is not minor, please do open your eyes to the world around you — I am seriously amazed that there are four, five or six people trying to pick apart what happened as if they were looking for a lost child.

    There are two options: NameCheap messed up or sierk messed up. The site is insignificantly profitable if at all and I don't see what the big concern over things are besides for the sake of nostalgia. Someone immature is trying to get access to the personal information of the fourteen year olds that visit Habbox.com who are dumb enough to let the malicious behaviour on to their computer. Is it really worth all of this effort? Warn the users without acting like a nuke is being dropped, fix the problem and move on. I can't stress how unimportant this whole thing is except, perhaps, in the sense that maybe management and owner access needs to be reevaluated. That's about it.
    I'm not going to write loads back but anyone who believes this is minor needs to check on what actually happened in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    B&Q have a wonderful sale on at the moment - 50% off all garden tools. Perhaps we could all chip in, buy a load of shovels and we can dig a much deeper hole for Habbox to sit itself in

    Alternatively, just hire a bus, storm Namecheap and leave no survivors - they're clearly too dumb to live if they change the details of a domain without hesitation. Pretty stupid of them, you demand a good quality service yet they chuck common sense to the wind and leave hundreds (assuming Habbox has hundreds of viewers these days) exposed to these sorts of exploits. I hope you get an apology -or demand a whipping seeing as how poorly they've handled the domains :/

    This isn't doing Habbox any good - servers which seem to be enjoying some quiet, down time and now a domain which was carelessly changed to expose users to whatever these Java exploits are attempting to do. Feel sorry for whoever had to grovel to Jin and sierk.
    We was discussing in a skype chat if we should do a raid! (Joking ofc but all good fun) and any future problems with the server will be sorted out very quickly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    We was discussing in a skype chat if we should do a raid! (Joking ofc but all good fun) and any future problems with the server will be sorted out very quickly.
    I bet you're being serious and are just saying it's a joke to appear innocent. Your secret is safe, happy slashing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    I don't think you understand the (very much so) significance of protecting a) your userbase and b) your user's information.
    Oh, my dear, yes I do. Is playing "teen tech genius" to the few others who care enough to read in to your message protecting anything? No, it's feeding your ego. Perhaps you get off on exciting (not so clever) takeovers of sagging fansites for an antique online community. Maybe it's very thrilling for you to decide whether or not this can be considered an 'exploit' or not. I guess there is the possibility that when you can't get credibility on a forum dedicated to this sort of thing, it feels good to big up what you read about on a forum that hires staff who post in Spam asking for REP. I really can't be sure.

    The point of my post is that the reaction to what happened was melodramatic and this thread is as well. It is not a big deal. It has been done and the userbase's information is safe as of now. There needn't be a sixty post analysis on who dare did this and how in the world they managed this evil plan. It's Habbox, get a grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    I'm actually not entirely sure what this is meant to achieve, Matt is hardly super server admin, sure he's more technically adept than most but stuff like that has never been the General Manager's responsibility. From what I've heard a lot of the past restrictions on access are being eased anyway but to say that Matt should have access to control Habbox's domain is insane. Jin is actually being more reachable recently than he has in the past and from what I understand Sierk was reachable for this also. Just because they're not making daily posts on the forum does not mean they're inactive.
    If Jin's more reachable now then that's fantastic, but if it's anything like it was last year then god help everyone. Whether it's Matt or someone else (when I was around my argument was always for @Hoteluser to get full access to everything but y'know that can't happen now) it would be much easier for these kinds of situations. I mean, the site's still not back up - what's that about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasey View Post
    *snip*
    It is sort of serious, DNS shouldn't be changed through simple e-mail communications. It seemed to of taken quite a long time to get it sorted, and you yourself have stated that it's not going to do Habbox any favours. I sense you're a bit fed up with all these problems appearing every other week, and have just given up caring

    Quote Originally Posted by Hecktix View Post
    If Jin's more reachable now then that's fantastic, but if it's anything like it was last year then god help everyone. Whether it's Matt or someone else (when I was around my argument was always for @Hoteluser to get full access to everything but y'know that can't happen now) it would be much easier for these kinds of situations. I mean, the site's still not back up - what's that about?
    It would be nice if they could sell it off to a group of people who are passionate about the website and the community, but unfortunately life isn't that simple
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hecktix View Post
    If Jin's more reachable now then that's fantastic, but if it's anything like it was last year then god help everyone. Whether it's Matt or someone else (when I was around my argument was always for @Hoteluser to get full access to everything but y'know that can't happen now) it would be much easier for these kinds of situations. I mean, the site's still not back up - what's that about?
    In regards of the site not being back up, there is good reason and this explains it:

    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    Update (21:55):

    The nameservers have been corrected and are now pointing again to the Habbox server. The DNS should propagate totally within the next 24 hours and this does mean you won't be able to see the Habbox site straight away. It depends on how fast your DNS is.

    While we wait for the DNS to propagate we will be keeping the downtime page up throughout the night and into tomorrow. The Habbox downtime page looks like the following:





    As before, DO NOT run any Java files if they appear on the Habbox.com site. We will NEVER ask for something like that to be run on the Habbox.com website. We appreciate your patience during this time and we will be back very soon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hecktix View Post
    Whether it's Matt or someone else (when I was around my argument was always for @Hoteluser to get full access to everything but y'know that can't happen now) it would be much easier for these kinds of situations. I mean, the site's still not back up - what's that about?
    Recursion is getting root access afaik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasey View Post
    Oh, my dear, yes I do. Is playing "teen tech genius" to the few others who care enough to read in to your message protecting anything? No, it's feeding your ego. Perhaps you get off on exciting (not so clever) takeovers of sagging fansites for an antique online community. Maybe it's very thrilling for you to decide whether or not this can be considered an 'exploit' or not. I guess there is the possibility that when you can't get credibility on a forum dedicated to this sort of thing, it feels good to big up what you read about on a forum that hires staff who post in Spam asking for REP. I really can't be sure.

    The point of my post is that the reaction to what happened was melodramatic and this thread is as well. It is not a big deal. It has been done and the userbase's information is safe as of now. There needn't be a sixty post analysis on who dare did this and how in the world they managed this evil plan. It's Habbox, get a grip.
    And I bet you would be one of the first in the queue of people complaining in the Feedback forum should our database have been leaked last night about how we should be more careful with your personal information. Funnily enough, Habbox may well be a kid's fansite or whatever, but (un)fortunately we're still bound by the various UK laws, still have a responsibility to protect our users and their information and also to continue providing a good service and not just disappear overnight, as many fansites do. If it wasn't for sites like Habbox or other projects I've been involved in, I wouldn't know nearly as much as I do now, technically, and certainly wouldn't be applying for the jobs I have been recently.

    Believe me, I have far bigger and better things to be doing than sitting around here helping out Habbox in any way, but I choose to because I like to have input into these things and I've seen Habbox grow (almost) right from the beginning. My ego is already as big as I need it be, I don't need to put any effort into making it any bigger, thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GommeInc View Post
    It is sort of serious, DNS shouldn't be changed through simple e-mail communications. It seemed to of taken quite a long time to get it sorted, and you yourself have stated that it's not going to do Habbox any favours. I sense you're a bit fed up with all these problems appearing every other week, and have just given up caring


    It would be nice if they could sell it off to a group of people who are passionate about the website and the community, but unfortunately life isn't that simple
    Well this was always going to be the issue... I just wonder how much longer Habbox would have lasted had Jin not become Co-Owner, yet even Jin is going to want to move on eventually

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    In regards of the site not being back up, there is good reason and this explains it:
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    I'm not going to write loads back but anyone who believes this is minor needs to check on what actually happened in the first place.
    If this is NameCheap's doing, then that is off-putting and something to be discussed. Involving Habbox in to it as if some bastion of gold has been broken in to and all of it was stolen is silly. Habbox is not important anymore if it ever could be considered that. Do let the traffic reports speak and not the people who still have their lives invested in a rusty endeavour. Even if NameCheap did this, I would bet they had a twit of a staff member behind this and the company will surely condemn what happened. I'm certain you can remember a few of the crazy staff members Habbox has had in the past who have done bad things. You've been here as long as I have. Habbox is nothing to sweat over in this case.

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