REPUTATION OR LIKE SYSTEM

[GoldenMerc]

Problem is, with a like system i cant give Samanfa nice comments

[Empired]

I haven't read the full thread, but if the main flaw is that rep power is increasing and new members won't reach high amounts, then why not increase the rep power someone has when they first join?

I think the last time someone suggested that it led to the hyperinflation of the German Mark

I think a Like system would be fun but I don't mind too much. I do see what Sam's trying to say though because it's really hard for new members to get any rep at all.

[Mr-Trainor]

At the moment, it looks like an overwhelming number want rep as it is - obviously give it more time, as I don't want those who want the like system to be missed out

I think people are missing the point that there could be essentially a 'like' system without removing rep comments;

Rep, mostly because I want to keep my established rep as it in and sometimes enjoy reading through all of my old rep received.

Depending on how a like system is introduced, if it was done the way I suggested (changing the rep system a bit to resemble more of a like system) then previous comments would remain..

Problem is, with a like system i cant give Samanfa nice comments

..and you'd still be able to leave comments for 'likes'/'dislikes'

I haven't read the full thread, but if the main flaw is that rep power is increasing and new members won't reach high amounts, then why not increase the rep power someone has when they first join?

That's why I suggested a cap on rep/like power.. increasing how hard it is to gain rep power is really not going to help unless you the first rep powers were easy and then as it goes up it gets much much harder.


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Just to explain my suggestion more clearly as it was misunderstood:
- it'a only really a change to the current rep system
- the current rep button will split in to two buttons, upvote and downvote
- comments are optional, so people can still leave comments and see all previous comments in the same way as the current rep system
- a cap on rep power to, what I'd suggest should be, no more than 3-5
- with this lower rep power, or 'like' power, the limits which currently mean you can't rep posts regularly can be scrapped or made much more lenient - after all, you should be able to like any post you want as that's the whole purpose of a like system
- introduced down vote counter, like the current green numbers when a post has received +rep
- change the current rep blocks (tbh even if rep stays they still need changing anyway imo.. why is there 5 dark green and 6 light green :S)

[Samantha]

I think people are missing the point that there could be essentially a 'like' system without removing rep comments;

Depending on how a like system is introduced, if it was done the way I suggested (changing the rep system a bit to resemble more of a like system) then previous comments would remain..

..and you'd still be able to leave comments for 'likes'/'dislikes'


That's why I suggested a cap on rep/like power.. increasing how hard it is to gain rep power is really not going to help unless you the first rep powers were easy and then as it goes up it gets much much harder.


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Just to explain my suggestion more clearly as it was misunderstood:
- it'a only really a change to the current rep system
- the current rep button will split in to two buttons, upvote and downvote
- comments are optional, so people can still leave comments and see all previous comments in the same way as the current rep system
- a cap on rep power to, what I'd suggest should be, no more than 3-5
- with this lower rep power, or 'like' power, the limits which currently mean you can't rep posts regularly can be scrapped or made much more lenient - after all, you should be able to like any post you want as that's the whole purpose of a like system
- introduced down vote counter, like the current green numbers when a post has received +rep
- change the current rep blocks (tbh even if rep stays they still need changing anyway imo.. why is there 5 dark green and 6 light green :S)

I don't think a cap is needed, many of us have earnt that power and it's not fair if we can't use it to spread it to other members.

Also there are light and dark green boxes as you get boxes for every 100 rep, but you can't exactly have 40 boxes therefore after you have filled up the dark green they begin filling light green after each 100. I got told that years ago, I think it's 100 anyway.

[scottish]

I think people are missing the point that there could be essentially a 'like' system without removing rep comments;

Depending on how a like system is introduced, if it was done the way I suggested (changing the rep system a bit to resemble more of a like system) then previous comments would remain..

..and you'd still be able to leave comments for 'likes'/'dislikes'


That's why I suggested a cap on rep/like power.. increasing how hard it is to gain rep power is really not going to help unless you the first rep powers were easy and then as it goes up it gets much much harder.


--
Just to explain my suggestion more clearly as it was misunderstood:
- it'a only really a change to the current rep system
- the current rep button will split in to two buttons, upvote and downvote
- comments are optional, so people can still leave comments and see all previous comments in the same way as the current rep system
- a cap on rep power to, what I'd suggest should be, no more than 3-5
- with this lower rep power, or 'like' power, the limits which currently mean you can't rep posts regularly can be scrapped or made much more lenient - after all, you should be able to like any post you want as that's the whole purpose of a like system
- introduced down vote counter, like the current green numbers when a post has received +rep
- change the current rep blocks (tbh even if rep stays they still need changing anyway imo.. why is there 5 dark green and 6 light green :S)

then your suggestion does nothing but make it harder for new members to get rep lol..

Splitting into 2 buttons is stupid as it's already essentially an upvote and downvote, just within the same button.
A cap on rep would mean older members have something like 5000 rep points and someone whos coming would be on like 100 after ages instead of 2-3 reps, so would still make it harder for new members to get rep

[FlyingJesus]

it's really hard for new members to get any rep at all.

Would be even harder if everyone only had 1 rep power (which is what the like system is), and surely it's easier now than a few years ago because so many people have a lot of rep to give whereas when I joined there was only a tiny number of people with rep power over 20

- a cap on rep power to, what I'd suggest should be, no more than 3-5
- with this lower rep power, or 'like' power, the limits which currently mean you can't rep posts regularly can be scrapped or made much more lenient - after all, you should be able to like any post you want as that's the whole purpose of a like system

With unlimited liking you essentially allow for unlimited "like power" which is only capped at the number of posts your desired target has. It's incredibly open to abuse, makes absolutely no sense, and benefits no-one at all

[Chippiewill]

I haven't read the full thread, but if the main flaw is that rep power is increasing and new members won't reach high amounts, then why not increase the rep power someone has when they first join?

Since it's exponential growth it doesn't matter what rep power they start on.

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With unlimited liking you essentially allow for unlimited "like power" which is only capped at the number of posts your desired target has. It's incredibly open to abuse, makes absolutely no sense, and benefits no-one at all

This is under the assumption that anyone would care enough to abuse it. The point of a like system is that it's so trivial that it would be meaningless to abuse it.

[Empired]

Would be even harder if everyone only had 1 rep power (which is what the like system is), and surely it's easier now than a few years ago because so many people have a lot of rep to give whereas when I joined there was only a tiny number of people with rep power over 20

You cut off half of my sentence there. I originally said I understand what Sam's trying to say because it is hard for new members to get rep. I don't know how to fix this, I was just agreeing with her.

[Mr-Trainor]

I don't think a cap is needed, many of us have earnt that power and it's not fair if we can't use it to spread it to other members.

Also there are light and dark green boxes as you get boxes for every 100 rep, but you can't exactly have 40 boxes therefore after you have filled up the dark green they begin filling light green after each 100. I got told that years ago, I think it's 100 anyway.

You still can, it just wouldn't be as high - making it fairer for new members. You could make the same argument and say you've earned the power and so should be able to rep as often as you like, but that isn't going to change anything.

As for the boxes, I just meant why 5 of one and 6 of the other . We were told more rep boxes were gonna be added ages ago but idk what happened to that!

then your suggestion does nothing but make it harder for new members to get rep lol..

Splitting into 2 buttons is stupid as it's already essentially an upvote and downvote, just within the same button.
A cap on rep would mean older members have something like 5000 rep points and someone whos coming would be on like 100 after ages instead of 2-3 reps, so would still make it harder for new members to get rep

Because I'm trying to think of a way to turn the rep system in to a like system without having to have two separate systems? And actually it would make it easier to earn 'points' (rep points/like points/whatever) because if the power is capped at a lower amount then restrictions can be lifted, meaning people would actually be likely to accumulate points at a faster rate than currently and would make it easier for newer users to catch up with exisiting users in regards to the 'power' (rep power/like power).

Would be even harder if everyone only had 1 rep power (which is what the like system is), and surely it's easier now than a few years ago because so many people have a lot of rep to give whereas when I joined there was only a tiny number of people with rep power over 20



With unlimited liking you essentially allow for unlimited "like power" which is only capped at the number of posts your desired target has. It's incredibly open to abuse, makes absolutely no sense, and benefits no-one at all

But with a like system you could like or dislike whenever you want instead of being restricted.
As for your second comment, see below :

This is under the assumption that anyone would care enough to abuse it. The point of a like system is that it's so trivial that it would be meaningless to abuse it.

I agree, I don't think anyone would care so much. And with a capped 'power' it's not going to change what they're able to give, but rather it could only increase their points. If someone cares enough to go and waste their time liking every single post from another user then let them.. it'll take them ages to make a small difference.

[AgnesIO]

Well, at present 60% of all voters want the system to stay exactly as it is. Meanwhile, about 38% want the system to change (28.5% of these want a like system). @Danny.R.H2012 has selected other, but I don't think has actually posted what he does want, making his vote completely void.

Got to say at present, it looks like the current rep system is wanted; if possible would you people want to see who repped what post and -reps on a post? @-:Undertaker:- / @Bolt660 / @Daltron / @dbgtz / @Dilusionate / @Flairr / @FlyingJesus / @GoldenMerc / @Headlines / @Inkwell / @Inseriousity. / @Intersocial / @Jordan / @lesbian / @Lewis / @lucaskf390 / @Matts / @Nick / @Red / @rihanna-cool / @Samanfa / @scottish / @XxZammyXx / @Yuxin / @£lliott

In essence, I think that would give what the people who want a like system want, whilst also keeping the reputation system as it currently is (obviously a slight change, but your rep would still stay exactly the same!)