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    Quote Originally Posted by Southe, View Post
    Regarding the picture, probably a mistake to post that. I didn't read it and merely just grabbed the first thing i could find
    Enough said really. The Yes vote is a reactionary vote to an imagined problem with no actual solutions beyond "look at this thing I just made up". The problems in Scotland will not go away by creating a new government, especially since none of the Yes campaigners have actually got a clue how politics really works or have even bothered to give examples of what they'll realistically be able to achieve as opposed to just a magical "we won't be ruled by England (which is already the case) any more and that will solve everything"
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    Can people please sympathise with the likes of myself and Mikey as this is a prime example of the types of people we have to deal with on a daily basis? As the polls go, when it is a no vote I hope we bury this debate at least for a number of years. It's become a nasty and hostile debate which has divided the country massively, and unfortunately I see no quick fix for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Can people please sympathise with the likes of myself and Mikey as this is a prime example of the types of people we have to deal with on a daily basis? As the polls go, when it is a no vote I hope we bury this debate at least for a number of years. It's become a nasty and hostile debate which has divided the country massively, and unfortunately I see no quick fix for that.
    Unionists shouldn't allow matters to rest after a victory though, as there is always the threat that Scottish separtists will try again... that said, it isn't assured. In the years that have followed after the Quebec independence referendum, support for Quebec independence has dropped and it is the same with the Monarchy in Australia, after the referendum a decade ago support for retaining the Monarchy has increased and even with Northern Ireland support for the Union has continued to grow despite many predicting that the demographics would mean that the north would eventually fall to the Republic.

    It goes to show that conservative values and ideas can be successfully fought for, provided there's a will to defend them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Can people please sympathise with the likes of myself and Mikey as this is a prime example of the types of people we have to deal with on a daily basis? As the polls go, when it is a no vote I hope we bury this debate at least for a number of years. It's become a nasty and hostile debate which has divided the country massively, and unfortunately I see no quick fix for that.
    It's starting to really bore me at the moment, honestly can't wait until people go to the polls and make their decision. All you see in the news these days is independence, independence, independence..

    As Mark has said yes it's been quite nasty and to be honest there's no need for it, already enough upset in this world. Now I'm not saying saying all Yes voters are like this but it's quite scary how passionate some of them are to to the point where they are aggressive.

    In college for example there was a focus group and myself and a few of my Media classmates were observing a focus group this journalist from The Guardian was doing for a piece on how college students from across Scotland felt about the situation and what their stance was. Journalist made it clear in the joining instructions what was going to be asked and even the stuff she asked wasn't unreasonable but there was alot of aggression and anger because they didn't like what she had to say even though she was taking it from both sides (yes and no).

    The journalist handled it very well and afterwards and we applauded her with the way she tackled the situation.

    Watched debates that have been on the television, read into it from both sides.. no thanks. Happy for Scotland to get more powers and still be part of the United Kingdom, we are fine the way we are.

    That's all I have to say about this topic.
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