goodbye -:undertaker:-

[xxMATTGxx]

Let's just ignore the flag for a minute here. At the end of the day if you break a forum rule and something gets removed from your signature but you are going to act like a child even though you are an adult and you keep adding it back. Then of course you will get fired from your job role or get banned with the amount of infraction points that will get added to your account. I laugh at how some of you think he mainly got fired for putting the flag in his signatire - No.

This is has been going on for weeks and like FlyingJesus and wixard point out he probably only done this to get this kind of reaction. It's a Habbo forum for goodness sake - All he had to do was simply keep the content out of his signature and avatar. But no, he thinks he's better than that and will do what he wants to force his views across the forum.

It's only ever been in there since the whole situation with the flag started appearing in the news. At the end of the day people, it's an internet forum for a virtual world with rules you all have to agree to.

Some of you are like 20+ and all throwing the toys out of a pram on a Habbo forum because of what a forum member has done. Seriously...

Anyway, It's happened and will probably not get reverted anyway so I guess you will just have to get used to the fact Dan is no longer Debates Manger.

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he would have never put it in his signature if all the controversy surrounding it didn't come to light in the past few months. he was asked to remove it and comply and he kicked up a fuss... this has been going on for weeks i believe

hate to pull this line again but it's a habbo forum, we're not even allowed to curse so get over yourself if the flag is apparently offensive to other people they're making the right decision to remove it and he needs to get over that. undertaker there's a reason your date kicked you out the other night and when this hostility happens with more than one person maybe you shouldn't be so quick to put the blame on others way of thinking or logic and start thinking that you as a person need to just shut up sometimes. every day id like to tell customers where the **** to go but bite my tongue, YOU CAN TOO

good luck in the future shame it happened but all you had to do was argue your point about the flag, and if they still insisted on you keeping it out of your signature RESPECT THAT DECISION FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE INDIVIDUALs who got offended

god

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Dan pmed the majority of active users on the forum the back and forth exchange between him and mods about the flag, he wasn't going to back down or shut up

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Which debates forum are you looking at Ryan because the one on this board is run almost totally by the members and had a supposed "manager" who gave out about 4 awards in 2 years (with no explanation of what they were about) and was purposefully rude and abusive to members of the community while hiding behind a façade of pompous trollishness - and then claimed that his job was to bully and provoke people rather than to, say, set legitimate debates and oversee their evolution.

No idea who's been complaining about flags and all that but are we really going to pretend that Dan's anything other than a disillusioned child with more rhetoric than education and who thrives on pissing people off so that he can feel ultra special and self righteous to such a degree that he's apparently willing to become an American just to annoy everyone

I have no love for Chris as anyone can probably tell you but Dan being fired was well overdue

Pretty much

[Matt]

Why is everyone blaming mods? Im sure they dont eve have a say as to whether he got fired or not??

Tell me about it.

Because they were only targetting Undertaker - mdport. has only just gone through and removed images posted by other users just now despite viewing the thread several hours ago, and modwarning Undertaker several hours ago in this very thread.

The thread was made whilst I was still asleep and believe it or not, I'm not the only one with administrative permissions to edit people's posts. The modwarned post was for a different rule break altogether and as no Forum Administrators or General Management had been online since I'd woken up (and the banning of the flag happened overnight for me), I wanted to clarify that the flag was totally banned across the forum before I did anything.

[Kardan]

Tell me about it.



The thread was made whilst I was still asleep and believe it or not, I'm not the only one with administrative permissions to edit people's posts. The modwarned post was for a different rule break altogether and as no Forum Administrators or General Management had been online since I'd woken up (and the banning of the flag happened overnight for me), I wanted to clarify that the flag was totally banned across the forum before I did anything.

I think it was pretty clear from this thread that the flag was banned - nevertheless (A)GMs still breezed past the rule breaking posts, and they definitely knew it was against the rules.

[Alysha]

So his reasoning for using the flag was in direct opposition to gay marriage? Or is his reason a really obscure one which leads right back to that same answer?

[Matt]

I think it was pretty clear from this thread that the flag was banned - nevertheless (A)GMs still breezed past the rule breaking posts, and they definitely knew it was against the rules.

It's a thankyou thread supposedly thanking Dan for his time, not a feedback thread asking why it was banned. I'd not actually been told (nor anything posted in the staff forums) that the flag was banned entirely and that it were to be removed if anyone posted it. I was also not included in the Private Message sent to a large amount of people that showcased the details of his dismissal (and therefore was unsure as to why a large number of people decided to include it in their posts).

[Kardan]

Well, Wispur posted this about 3 hours before Undertaker got moderated for displaying private information.

Your ideas of absurd are very different to ours (General Managements). We made the decision to ban the flag, if you don't like it then thats tough I'm afraid. Those people wont get infracted, the posts will probably just be removed.

So I would've thought it was clear that the flag was to be removed from posts - so you can see why it looks like only Undertaker was singled out when nobody else had their images removed for hours after.

[Evanora]

hang your head in shame habbox!

[GommeInc]

Let's just ignore the flag for a minute here. At the end of the day if you break a forum rule and something gets removed from your signature but you are going to act like a child even though you are an adult and you keep adding it back. Then of course you will get fired from your job role or get banned with the amount of infraction points that will get added to your account. I laugh at how some of you think he mainly got fired for putting the flag in his signatire - No.

This is has been going on for weeks and like FlyingJesus and wixard point out he probably only done this to get this kind of reaction. It's a Habbo forum for goodness sake - All he had to do was simply keep the content out of his signature and avatar. But no, he thinks he's better than that and will do what he wants to force his views across the forum.

It's only ever been in there since the whole situation with the flag started appearing in the news. At the end of the day people, it's an internet forum for a virtual world with rules you all have to agree to.

Some of you are like 20+ and all throwing the toys out of a pram on a Habbo forum because of what a forum member has done. Seriously...

Anyway, It's happened and will probably not get reverted anyway so I guess you will just have to get used to the fact Dan is no longer Debates Manger.

"Let's just ignore the flag for a minute here".

Goes on to talk about the flag.

Not the best explanation

You have to admit, Wispur is a pretty lousy GM if he bans a flag and doesn't realise it is an impossible rule to support. Flags are symbols, symbols have different meanings and many states have different iterations of the flag. That flag shares a positive history as well as a negative one. Completely different to the Nazi Swastika (the real Swastika is a symbol of peace), which if banned is rightfully so although again impossible to ban - what happens if a thread comes up discussing it? Will you get Wispur MAD / Sammeth. to close a perfectly fine debate because his ego is leaking?

Not forgetting there was no discussion in the matter about banning the flag. It seemed like a back handed deal, with no community input. He just made a rule and went with it. Something Habbox hasn't seen since MAD and Sammeth (which is what Wispur is more or less like - weak, immature and feckless, and only listens to a few members behind the scenes).

Also, there is some weird idea that Dan didn't do anything for that forum. Remember back to before Dan became leader and you may actually recall that the forum was so superficial and boring in the way it handled debates. Not forgetting we actually get debates posted officially. Before Dan the forum was a neglected child. You had a dodgy time limit which didn't take into account the debate evolving, and previous leaders restricted what you could talk about. There also seems to be some confusion. Debates =/= Current Affairs. He rarely butted into the Official Debates and became rude. In fact, I do not recall an instance this has ever happened.

[sex]

good bye

[-:Undertaker:-]

hahaha this is getting even more pathetic now.

I didn't even put the Confederate flag (which they said was banned) in my profile I actually had the following OFFICIAL US STATE FLAGS in my profile and they've removed them and sent me a warning this morning. Do Habbox even know what they've banned and why are actual official state US flags being removed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee

the rules seem to be changing hourly into "we look pretty stupid so lets show them who is boss"