Doctor Who - Series 6.

[luce]

watched it for the first time in AGES today and didn't really get it that river person seems to be about 5 different people! So confusing i was just excited Bille got some air time ;-)

[Pigperson]

Loving the new series although this is starting to get pretty confusing. It's all these time lines and people meeting at the wrong times that confuses me.

Just a few quick questions:
1) Am I right in thinking that this is the 3rd series with Matt Smith and Karen Gillan because I swear christopher eccleston did 1 series, and david tennant did 4 so I'm confused lol.
2) When did the Doctor and Amy meet River Song because I forgot that episode.

Will

[Chris]

Loving the new series although this is starting to get pretty confusing. It's all these time lines and people meeting at the wrong times that confuses me.

Just a few quick questions:
1) Am I right in thinking that this is the 3rd series with Matt Smith and Karen Gillan because I swear christopher eccleston did 1 series, and david tennant did 4 so I'm confused lol.
2) When did the Doctor and Amy meet River Song because I forgot that episode.

Will

1) This is Matt and Karen's second series. Chris did 1 and David did 3.
2) It was in the episode "Silence in the Library" in series 4 when he met River.

[dbgtz]

Loving the new series although this is starting to get pretty confusing. It's all these time lines and people meeting at the wrong times that confuses me.

Just a few quick questions:
1) Am I right in thinking that this is the 3rd series with Matt Smith and Karen Gillan because I swear christopher eccleston did 1 series, and david tennant did 4 so I'm confused lol.
2) When did the Doctor and Amy meet River Song because I forgot that episode.

Will

Amy met her in the weeping angels episode of last series I think, "The Time of Angels" and "Flesh and Stone". The rest of what Infectious said was right as the specials don't actually count as a series

[Fez]

Okay so I've been digesting this episode all day and I still don't know what to think of it. Is it bad? Absolutely not, I thoroughly enjoyed Matt's Doctor being the centerpiece and the Rory/Amy chemistry that I liked in Part 1 is now a whole delicious side-story. It's like the meat and potatoes of Doctor Who now with Matt being the meat (nohomo) from the dancey dancey time to the Amelia Pond begging along with fish custard and general "I knew that you'd know that I'd do that." bits with River Song, I feel this is his best acting performance since The Doctor's Wife. In my books he's more memorable than David Tennant's Doctor and not because of the writing.

Speaking of the writing it's feels so... convenient. The whole episode was built around the Doctor dying, which is a great way to start a series... wait what, and the drama we went through didn't... pay off. If anything I'm not sure if this was trying to act as plot hole tissue for the Forest Of The Dead episode with Song having no regenerations, though she herself said "It'll fry both of your hearts."

The Amy/Rory flashback was cute when Karen Gillan literally called Rory, the man who would punch Hitler in the face and tell him to "Shut up.", gay. I was quite a bit peeved off with how they made us assume the giant best friends forever and ever thing with Mel/Rory/Amy given her character literally came out of nowhere but I guess it was a cover story for her to get to the Doctor.

Hitler in the closet was a nice touch. Moffat said this was an episode making fun of Hitler and they hit it right on the noggin.

The 'Meet Dave' enemy was a little flimsy, the antibodies weren't really frightening nor was anything really. The constant reminder that "The Doctor is gunna die sumday omg hows he gunna git out of this one!" rather punishes casual viewers who probably don't know what the **** is going on half the time and annoys viewers like us who watch every episode. Speaking of 'Meet Dave' enemy, it was nice seeing double Pond again though shame about the lack of sexual tension.

So, did I like it? Maybe. I still feel like the show is trying to hammer a LOST like structure into my brain but now that River Song has (disappointingly) being resolved and we can finally get on with proper character moments between her and the Doctor, well, maybe the show will warm up to me. This series started off with genocide, a really flimsy 'clone' story, a Neil Gaiman episode that was actually damn bloody good and then the most tiresome "RIVER SONG, MORE LIKE RIVER POND AMIRITE?" 45 minute 'Part 1 Finale'.

'Let's Kill Hitler' is... fun and rewarding to some degree. I don't hate Doctor Who, never have with Karen Gillan's legs, Matt Smith's charms and Rory being a badass but I have gone off it awhile. It's a shame then that Moffat then throws some stuff like 'the question' and the mystery of the Silents origins and stuff, when we just got done with River Song, I mean give us a break pls kthx.

I'm probably ranting, but to summarise.

- I thought Matt Smith's performance is his best ever.
- Is it just me or does Karen Gillan get increasingly more attractive every episode?
- Rory punching Hitler and telling him to shut up.
- Meet Dave
- I was cheated out of a proper ending, that because River Song is a timehuman or whatever she's able to throw her regenerations at the Doctor. There's no real razzle dazzle or proper realization, if it came from the Doctor it would be even less of a pay-off really, but this would have been a nice chance to show off some great writing bits. Having River Song explain that she's going to literally give her life to save the Doctor would be a great pay-off, not just "I AM BECOME MAGIC."
- Still more LOST like stuff
- Character of Mel still felt a little misplaced, felt like a video-game in which I played a guy on a revenge story and just had to assume years of history between me and my dead wife to give one ounce of care about the story. Same with Mel, having to assume years of history and a 3 minute flashback can't help that kinda thing.
- Probably wrote too much.
- IF Moffat doesn't stray away from this type of episode, I may be inclined to watch next series.

[Pigperson]

1) This is Matt and Karen's second series. Chris did 1 and David did 3.
2) It was in the episode "Silence in the Library" in series 4 when he met River.

Amy met her in the weeping angels episode of last series I think, "The Time of Angels" and "Flesh and Stone". The rest of what Infectious said was right as the specials don't actually count as a series

Thanks I'm getting confused by which sections of doctor who counts as a series lol. Because Billie Piper did 2 years, Freema Agyeman did 2 years, Catherine Tate did 1 year and Karen Gillan is on her 2nd year but I swear there have been 3 series ends (The wedding, the pandorica and demon's run :S) I would really appreciate it if someone could clear this up lol

Will

[Accipiter]

Demons Run was a mid season end, we're still in a season because it became americanised and americans like large toilet breaks because they eat a lot.

[Tom]

It's already been said she regenerated into a toddler? So maybe:

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She saves the doctor, but they kinda re-wrote time? So that's probably the fact she has to kill him again or something?

[Accipiter]

The suit was manufactured to fit a child, so I was confused in that sense that she'd have already succeeded in killing the doctor?

And Fez, it's been shown before that regeneration can be transferred (Donna) and that it's kinda magic for 24 hours after (Sycorax) So when given the time energy (think thats its name) his body would regenerate again.

[dbgtz]

Thanks I'm getting confused by which sections of doctor who counts as a series lol. Because Billie Piper did 2 years, Freema Agyeman did 2 years, Catherine Tate did 1 year and Karen Gillan is on her 2nd year but I swear there have been 3 series ends (The wedding, the pandorica and demon's run :S) I would really appreciate it if someone could clear this up lol

Will

The wedding and the pandorica? The wedding was just a little bit added to the end of series 5, and as said demons run mid series. Also Freema done 1 year then guest starred in a few eps (Sontaren strategem, Journey's end (and whatever the other part was called) etc.) and also the brief cameo in the final special episode.

Also @fez I agree with the enemy being a bit urg and "meet dave" like and also jellyfish killers were as crap too, and I also agree with the Karen Gillan part One thing that also annoyed me was how she seemed to be able to control the sonic so easily. I mean, with Rory you see him toughen up as a character so him punching the german person (who turned out to be the bot) seemed to make sense, along with him being strong against Hitler, but with Amy it just seems to come out of the blue.