Animal testing

[Mentor]

Humans underestimate animals far too much. An animal doesn't need to be able to build a rocket to be sentient. For all we know, there may be intelligent beings in the universe who are far more advanced than we are and who consider us to not be sentient because we aren't as advanced as they are.

.. Ok, properganda is the key word here, your takieng this of an animal rights sight and looking at a massive misreporstention of facts.... they pick and choose parts without finishing the storys and compleaty misrepersent what there saying.
Uncerstanty over a persific action is not an act of chooseing, any more than feeding a string of letters in to a box especing numbers on a computer is the computer then chooseing what to do.
If an animal hasnt learned a repsonce and is exspeirnceing something new, it will obviolsy have no set cource of action to take. Hence will take a more randomised responce insted and then learn form that exsperince for use if they then come across the same thing again.
Go talk to my chatbot titan, he can also do that, im scepticl youd call him alive though "/

Plus the more advanced lifeforms not considering us sentain is crap.
1) being more advnaced they would have more accurate ways to tell.
2) Sentance is defined by us, hence would not be what another lifeform would nessarly definie it as, sentaince is by no means the top level of intelangence an animal can have? humans are only minuetly self aware "/

[Virgin Mary]

Yes, but being sentient and being alive are two different things. You could build a robot which is sentient, but that doesn't mean it's a living being. Then again, it depends what your view of alive is.

[Mentor]

Yes, but being sentient and being alive are two different things. You could build a robot which is sentient, but that doesn't mean it's a living being. Then again, it depends what your view of alive is.

Well if it were sentaint it would have more rights than any animal since just living doesnt give much status, as most plants and trees have found out "/
Being sentiant on the other hand carrys ALOT.

[asher_]

“For as long as humans have domesticated animals and have articulated a social consensus ethic, it has included an ethic for the treatment of animals, albeit a very limited one. That traditional ethic has been an ethic forbidding cruelty to animals, that is, deliberate, sadistic, useless, unnecessary infliction of pain, suffering, and neglect on animals.”
— Bernard E. Rollin, Professor of Philosophy and Professor of Physiology and Biophysics at Colorado State University, in his book Farm Animal Welfare: Social, Bioethical, and Research Issues

“You are not handling a lump of plastic. You are handling animals with central nervous systems that feel pain and suffering.”
— Janice Swanson, animal behavior specialist at Kansas State University, addressing a United Egg Producers meeting
“Killing an animal is not the same thing as mowing the grass. A life ends. That’s something you take seriously. What does the word ‘sacred’ mean? You do not treat it as an ordinary thing. Killing cattle is not the same as running grain through a mill.”
— Temple Grandin, Ph. D., Assistant Professor of Animal Science at Colorado State University

“ Recent research has revealed that birds are capable of complex cognition . . . it is now clear that birds have cognitive capacities equivalent to those of mammals, even primates . . . it should be realized that even vastly improved intensive systems are unlikely to meet the cognitive demands of the hitherto underestimated chicken brain. . . . With the increased knowledge of the behaviour and cognitive abilities of the chicken has come the realization that the chicken is not an inferior species to be treated merely as a food source.”
— Lesley Rogers, Ph. D., Professor of Physiology, University of New England, in her book The Development of Brain and Behavior in the Chicken
“That’s one sad, unhappy, upset cow. She wants her baby. Bellowing for it, hunting for it. It’s like grieving, mourning––not much written about it. People don’t like to allow them thoughts or feelings.”
— Temple Grandin, Ph. D., Assistant Professor of Animal Science at Colorado State University, referring to a reaction of a mother cow when her calf was taken from her, as quoted in Oliver W. Sacks’s An Anthropologist on Mars
“Animals are sentient beings with an intrinsic worth.”
— Margareta Winberg, Swedish Agricultural Minister, speaking to an EU conference focusing on humane treatment of animals in Europe
“The very fact that companion animals are so highly regarded raises difficult issues for agricultural and performance animal doctors. Some of these animals are not markedly different in their mental capacities from many companion animals. At a time the profession seeks to promote companion animals as members of the family, to what extent must it also advocate the interests of its food, farm, and performance animal patients?. . . Nevertheless, discussions devoid of attention to animal interests are appearing with frequency in the literature espousing the model of the veterinarian as herd health consultant.”
— Jerrold Tannenbaum, M.A., J.D., Associate Professor of Environmental Studies, Tufts University School of Veterinary Medicine, in his book Veterinary Ethics: Animal Welfare, Client Relations, Competition and Collegiality
“There is much evidence showing that animals have sophisticated systems for regulating their lives and that they are much disturbed if they cannot control certain aspects of what happens to them. There is also good evidence for elaborate systems for detecting and responding to painful stimuli.”
— A. F. Fraser, Memorial University of Newfoundland, and D. M. Broom, Professor of Animal Welfare at Cambridge, in their book Farm Animal Behavior and Welfare
“Humans who enslave, castrate, experiment on and fillet other animals, have had an understandable penchant for pretending animals do not feel pain. A sharp distinction between humans and ‘animals’ is essential if we are to bend them to our will, wear them, eat them—without any disquieting tinges of guilt or regret. It is unseemly of us, who often behave so unfeelingly toward other animals, to contend that only humans can suffer. The behavior of other animals renders such pretensions specious. They are just too much like us.”
— Dr. Carl Sagan & Dr. Ann Druyan, in their book Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors

[Virgin Mary]

Well if it were sentaint it would have more rights than any animal since just living doesnt give much status, as most plants and trees have found out "/
Being sentiant on the other hand carrys ALOT.

Being sentient and living, all animals deserve rights then.