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    Im going to see Bullet For My Valentine

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    Quote Originally Posted by -DJ-Emz- View Post
    theres no need to get harsh.

    You wouldn't like it if I started hypocriting all of your music.

    oh and thanks bethie! at least someone respects people.
    hey go ahead, insult my music, i really dont give a crap what you think tbh
    and thanks for the bad rep btw =]
    and like Spud said its my opinion, i know i cant do anything to stop you from listening to bad music, but i can still say what i think about it can't i?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spuddee_x View Post
    Screaming doesn't equal screamo, there are plentyyyy of genres of which contains screaming.

    I don't mind them as a band, but they aren't screamo.
    But when a majority of the song is actually screaming, and most of the songs follow the same pattern it is generally screamo. genres like metalcore are basically screamo (Bring me the Horizon)
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    There are so many bands I would love to see. There are a lot of albums coming out this year, and I doubt my parents will take me to all of them, but I need to go to at least a few. I would kill to see Radiohead, The Shins, Foo Fighters (if their next album is decent) and Modest Mouse. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah would be cool, same with Arcade Fire.

    But so far none of them have set tour dates for my area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle.tk View Post
    But when a majority of the song is actually screaming, and most of the songs follow the same pattern it is generally screamo. genres like metalcore are basically screamo (Bring me the Horizon)
    I'd disagree, if you take some of the screamo bands like Ampere, Orchid and Neil Perry they are very differnt to metalcore, they are a lot closer to punk than metal. I see screamo as an offshoot of hardcore punk, whereas metalcore is an offshoot of metal with screaming. I see where you're coming from but I don't really agree; having said that I don't know that much metalcore, just the popular ones, but from what I've heard metalcore isn't much like screamo (a genre I know quite a lot about).

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    Then again, the Genre's evolve. Screamo is now bands like Drop Dead, Gorgeous, PenKnifeLoveLife and groups who using screaming as main vocals.
    Bands who use it as backup vocals, such as Fightstar and Funeral for a Friend are no where near screamo though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spuddee_x View Post
    I'd disagree, if you take some of the screamo bands like Ampere, Orchid and Neil Perry they are very differnt to metalcore, they are a lot closer to punk than metal. I see screamo as an offshoot of hardcore punk, whereas metalcore is an offshoot of metal with screaming. I see where you're coming from but I don't really agree; having said that I don't know that much metalcore, just the popular ones, but from what I've heard metalcore isn't much like screamo (a genre I know quite a lot about).
    I would say screamo is anything like punk, and i know some 35-45 year old men (my dad, his brother and his friends) who were punks who would disagree too. Punk the genre didn't have much screaming in did it really? the singing was 'casual' (like there wasn't any attempt at trying to sing, it was how you wanted to) and the guitars were way different. I've noticed screamo/metalcore bands play (im not a guitar specialist, so please refrain from quoting me in the next sentances) like hard, crazy riffs which seem to be made up on the spot, whereas punk had more of a tune behind it. But i am not a punk genre specialist, i could get my dads opinion and he would certainly tell you what he thinks.
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    Last concert i went to see was - MADNESS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle.tk View Post
    I would say screamo is anything like punk, and i know some 35-45 year old men (my dad, his brother and his friends) who were punks who would disagree too. Punk the genre didn't have much screaming in did it really? the singing was 'casual' (like there wasn't any attempt at trying to sing, it was how you wanted to) and the guitars were way different. I've noticed screamo/metalcore bands play (im not a guitar specialist, so please refrain from quoting me in the next sentances) like hard, crazy riffs which seem to be made up on the spot, whereas punk had more of a tune behind it. But i am not a punk genre specialist, i could get my dads opinion and he would certainly tell you what he thinks.
    The point is your dad was into 77punk, the hardcore punk of the 80s was what started screamo, which was like punk but more melodic and with screaming. Their is some distortion on what and what isn't screamo these days and our definitions are very different, I still consider screamo to be an offshoot of hardcore punk, whereas your listening to the offshoot from metal stuff which has been (wrongly, imo) given the screamo tag. Before you tell me screamo has evolved to that stage, I'm going to tell you screamo as a punk offshoot is more alive now than ever. I'd be very glad to discuss this with your dad, this would make for some interesting conversation, but you ask him about hardcore punk (Black Flag, Minor Threat, Circle Jerks, Dead Kennedys, Descendents and GBH etc) as that's the genre that spawned the screamo scene, however screamo came around as an underground thing in the early 90's so I'm guessing your dad's active collaboration with the punk scene would have disentgrated a bit by then?
    Either way I'm up for discussing this with you further.

    Btw, if you're confused as to where I'm coming from on this I could write out a brief history on the term screamo if you wanted me to?

    But going back to what you said about punk vocals, you contradicted yourself there, you said it was sing however you want to, which was and still is the main cornerstone of punk, that you make it your own and do it in your own individual way, so many bands felt screaming had a place in punk and so yes, there are plenty of punk bands that use screaming, obviously they aren't remembered as well as the radio-friendly bands like Buzz****s, Ramones or Sex Pistols, but it existed in the original 77 scene, the later 80's hardcore scene and finally in the screamo scene itself.

    If your dad hasn't heard of this it may be because it was generally an underground craze in America.

    But like I said, up for discussion about it anytime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spuddee_x View Post
    The point is your dad was into 77punk, the hardcore punk of the 80s was what started screamo, which was like punk but more melodic and with screaming. Their is some distortion on what and what isn't screamo these days and our definitions are very different, I still consider screamo to be an offshoot of hardcore punk, whereas your listening to the offshoot from metal stuff which has been (wrongly, imo) given the screamo tag. Before you tell me screamo has evolved to that stage, I'm going to tell you screamo as a punk offshoot is more alive now than ever. I'd be very glad to discuss this with your dad, this would make for some interesting conversation, but you ask him about hardcore punk (Black Flag, Minor Threat, Circle Jerks, Dead Kennedys, Descendents and GBH etc) as that's the genre that spawned the screamo scene, however screamo came around as an underground thing in the early 90's so I'm guessing your dad's active collaboration with the punk scene would have disentgrated a bit by then?
    Either way I'm up for discussing this with you further.

    Btw, if you're confused as to where I'm coming from on this I could write out a brief history on the term screamo if you wanted me to?

    But going back to what you said about punk vocals, you contradicted yourself there, you said it was sing however you want to, which was and still is the main cornerstone of punk, that you make it your own and do it in your own individual way, so many bands felt screaming had a place in punk and so yes, there are plenty of punk bands that use screaming, obviously they aren't remembered as well as the radio-friendly bands like Buzz****s, Ramones or Sex Pistols, but it existed in the original 77 scene, the later 80's hardcore scene and finally in the screamo scene itself.

    If your dad hasn't heard of this it may be because it was generally an underground craze in America.

    But like I said, up for discussion about it anytime.

    I got burned;]
    But drop dead, gorgeous are screamo (hahaha)
    my point was that screamo didn't originate from the original and proper punk of the 70's. ;]
    The real punk was english;]!
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