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    init *****. He obv knows nothing about warfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101101entor View Post
    Actually, im pretty sure an SAS member for example would be quite capable of taking out a stupid machine gunner with just a pencil.... or maybe even a properly trained capable one.

    In fact, i think most people would be able to with the stupid one, just hide behind somthing till they run out of ammunition.
    It was just an example. Weapons DO matter. And weapons ARE part of the army.

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    Technically nuc's arent guns theyre bombs.. :S rofl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStratocas View Post
    It was just an example. Weapons DO matter. And weapons ARE part of the army.
    Granted, but your example was still flawed. Weapons may be part of the army, but weapons are useless without soldiers. A solderer can fight without a weapon, but a machine gun cant fight without a solderer.
    Hence my belief that soldiers are still a very important factor in modern warfare.


    Even nukes dont fire themselves.
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    Wow, you underestimate the SAS. They are the most skilled tac-team in the world.

    Undoubtedly the world's most powerful army is America's, followed by Russia. Britain is up there though due to its degree of military prowess and skill.

    But, that won't matter, because the Chinese will take over the world anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Sam View Post
    "Why don't presidents fight the war, why do they always send the poor"
    BYOB ftw.

    If you gave the aussies a load of weapons they'd make a good army.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgin Mary View Post
    Britain, seeing as we can always bring the rest of the Commonwealth into ours wars if we needed and we have the SAS etc.
    What are you smoking? Britain no longer has administrative control over any of those countries. In Canada, we do not go to war if the Queen says so. She's the head of state, and must sign all new laws passed by the government, but she really will not refuse. However, we do not have to do as she says, neither does Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, etc (all Commonwealth countries). We do what we believe is correct, not as the Monarchy or Britain says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misawa View Post
    Wow, you underestimate the SAS. They are the most skilled tac-team in the world.

    Undoubtedly the world's most powerful army is America's, followed by Russia. Britain is up there though due to its degree of military prowess and skill.

    But, that won't matter, because the Chinese will take over the world anyway.
    I dont see why Russia is so high, its not the cold war any more, russias military efforts arnt what they used to be, theres a very limited projection ability, and a relatively small military for such a large place. China is easily dominate over it. (then again there are a few incidents where Russia has exerted miltary strength that it supposedly dosnt have)

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    Quote Originally Posted by :-Mystical.Dave- View Post
    What are you smoking? Britain no longer has administrative control over any of those countries. In Canada, we do not go to war if the Queen says so. She's the head of state, and must sign all new laws passed by the government, but she really will not refuse. However, we do not have to do as she says, neither does Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, etc (all Commonwealth countries). We do what we believe is correct, not as the Monarchy or Britain says.
    The armies of the commonwealth swear oath to the Queen, the military decorations of the commonwealth are all awarded by the Queen. In the world wars, each of the commonwealth countries came in regiments to fight against the Nazis. The Queen is the commander-in-chief. Obviously this wouldn't need to happen again lest another World War broke out, in which case I would think the governments of the commonwealth would intervene if Britain needed help. What you are all also forgetting is that Britain is tiny, it's an island smaller than the states in the USA, but it's still one of the most powerful armies and the most highly trained in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgin Mary View Post
    The armies of the commonwealth swear oath to the Queen, the military decorations of the commonwealth are all awarded by the Queen. In the world wars, each of the commonwealth countries came in regiments to fight against the Nazis. The Queen is the commander-in-chief. Obviously this wouldn't need to happen again lest another World War broke out, in which case I would think the governments of the commonwealth would intervene if Britain needed help. What you are all also forgetting is that Britain is tiny, it's an island smaller than the states in the USA, but it's still one of the most powerful armies and the most highly trained in the world.
    We do not have to fight for the queen if Britain is in a war. We are sovereign and are a separate country that used to be a colony of the UK, but are just now a commonwealth country, which is all the former colonies of the UK. Highly trained armies meant nothing in the past. It was biggest army won, because they had many more people to throw at the enemy in order to inflict the greatest amount of casualties and damage. Look at USSR in WWII, they took over 6 weeks to mobilize their massive army, they had crappy weapons, bad training and still crushed the Nazis (because of their numbers and the climate of Russia, which is where they fought), who were the most skilled army of the time. Russia lost around 20 million soldiers in that war, and by the end Germany had lost 7-9 million of the strongest people (because those were the ones who fought in the war). Nowadays, it doesn't work that way. It is all based on firepower. The strong and powerful British and American soldiers get blown up by an IED on a random street in Iraq, because there is no way to fight against that. But those who control the skies win. The Iraqi's may have a few rocket propelled grenades or surface to air missiles, but that do not have close enough to down all the planes. I believe modern wars are based on the air combat and not land combat, because no countries have so many troops to throw away in battle as before (although I'm sure North Korea, Iran and maybe China would not hesitate to do so because they are Communist/Dictator regimes that are not out for the interests of the common man).
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