Halal - Right or Wrong?

[Virgin Mary]

It's right in their religion.

Stoning gayboys is right in my religion, how unfortunate for you.

[Frodo13.]

Of course we have blood in our bodies but thats our own. If we get blood into our body we become unpure, that is why when we get a cut we wash it and use a plaster.

Can Muslim's not have blood transfusions then? Just curious.

[Herman]

Can Muslim's not have blood transfusions then? Just curious.

We can, of course.

It is fine to donate blood and receive blood too. After all, we are encouraged to help one another.

[-Eyeless-]

I am asking if you think the way halal meat is prepared is right or wrong.
We seem to be having animal rights etc sticking their noses into certain things but they never dare mention this and can only think its because it offends muslims.

Halal basically is slitting the throat of an animal and leaving it to bleed to death to get all the impurities out of the animal and draining its blood. Surely a bolt to the head and instant death (in most cases unless theres a mistake) is better than leaving something to suffer and bleed to death.
Alot of people have no idea what halal actually is and I personally think it should be banned from being performed in the UK.

This is what is said but i have my doubts about it and believe if religeon was not the reason for it this would no way be alllowed to happen.

Allows for draining most of the blood out;
Causes no stress to the animal;
Does not cause death before the actual slaughter;
Found with no fault in any scientific study;
Proved to be humane’ , causing no “pain” or suffering or cruelty, even to a few individual animals;
Causes no damaging or harmful effects to the quality of the meat;
Found to be a sure way of death (reliable);
Found to be irreversible (slowly and gradually progressing to death);
With only one way of killing (direct method);
To be practical and realistic; quick and easy to perform in any society, in any place;
‘Very economical’ (not a lot of machinery and equipment, etc.);
Being more familiar to the animal, with less machinery and restraint (with a less threatening atmosphere);
Safe to perform (no electricity, gas or shocks, etc.);
Accepted by the community consuming the meat;
Liked by the slaughter man, with no psychological ill-effects on him;
Blessed for the believers by ALLAH (s.w.t).

Read up on it here
http://www.azhar.jp/info/halal-eng/halal5.html

Enjoy your kebab tonight

Halal is actually just as humane as the electricution methods of regular abotoires. The death is as instant as possible and is perfectly fine in my opinion.

[DiscoPat]

Guys believe me Halal isnt torturing an animal, when you look at the way KFC and other fast food companies kill there animals there, they rip the skin of while the animal is alive and dip it in hot water and all sorts, whilest in Halal the animal only feels it for a few seconds because once the blood is pooring out the system, it dies.

So comparing it, Halal is actually a better way than what isnt.

[Hushie]

I am definately not a racist person, but I don't believe in religion. When people here have said 'It's right in their religion' how does that mean that it's a humane thing to do?

Virgin Mary has put some good points across, just because peoples books of worship tell them to do something doesn't mean that they have to do it if it not classed as right to do in modern day society. The bible says that homosexuals should be killed, slave labour is just & that adulterers should be stoned. Although adultery is frowned upon in most societies punishment is not as strict as the bible teaches. Slave labour has been abolished and most people would never think of forcing somebody else into slave labour. So just because their holy book says they have to kill animals in a certain way, doesn't mean they have to follow it. Religions sometimes have to give up things if it just isn't correct in the modern world

[Tintinnabulate]

Halal ... should be banned from the UK as its animal abuse. I dont understand how muslims see it as "draining the impurities". Then they pray over it asking for forgiveness for killing the animal :s

I personally think its stupid.

Guys believe me Halal isnt torturing an animal, when you look at the way KFC and other fast food companies kill there animals there, they rip the skin of while the animal is alive and dip it in hot water and all sorts, whilest in Halal the animal only feels it for a few seconds because once the blood is pooring out the system, it dies.

So comparing it, Halal is actually a better way than what isnt.

Actually in Halal, animal dies slowly not quickly. Because the blood drains out slowly and then when it reaches a certain limit (which takes a long time), it dies. Till then it suffers.

Also actually, I have seen how KFC etc kill animals, its quick.

What annoys me even more, is companies such as subway etc, who want more money put up posters such as WE USE HALAL MEAT.

People who think halal is veggie / not painfull should really open their eyes and stop living in a world of their own. How can you say slitting a animals neck and letting it bleed to death is peaceful??? Islam say they are peaceful but they slit animals neck??? Its totally stupid. How can they even say its not painfull. How the hell do they know how much pain the animals suffer. Seriously annoys me.

[-Eyeless-]

Halal ... should be banned from the UK as its animal abuse. I dont understand how muslims see it as "draining the impurities". Then they pray over it asking for forgiveness for killing the animal :s

I personally think its stupid.




Actually in Halal, animal dies slowly not quickly. Because the blood drains out slowly and then when it reaches a certain limit (which takes a long time), it dies. Till then it suffers.

Also actually, I have seen how KFC etc kill animals, its quick.

What annoys me even more, is companies such as subway etc, who want more money put up posters such as WE USE HALAL MEAT.

People who think halal is veggie / not painfull should really open their eyes and stop living in a world of their own. How can you say slitting a animals neck and letting it bleed to death is peaceful??? Islam say they are peaceful but they slit animals neck??? Its totally stupid. How can they even say its not painfull. How the hell do they know how much pain the animals suffer. Seriously annoys me.

And you know this how? Have you been drained of your blood from your throat? It is almost instant, it is only oversensative people who think they know what is going on. It is basicly the same as what happens to all animals we eat, they just don't get stunned beforehand, which means they feel it for a second then they are dead.

[Tintinnabulate]

And you know this how? Have you been drained of your blood from your throat? It is almost instant, it is only oversensative people who think they know what is going on. It is basicly the same as what happens to all animals we eat, they just don't get stunned beforehand, which means they feel it for a second then they are dead.

Same question back at you, how do you know its painless?
The fact is, the animal dies slowly and painfully. I have seen videos etc and its just disgusting. I am not oversensitive, I am basing what I am saying on FACTS. The animals killed by KFCs etc are quick. They feel pain for a shorter duration.

[jrh2002]

And you know this how? Have you been drained of your blood from your throat? It is almost instant, it is only oversensative people who think they know what is going on. It is basicly the same as what happens to all animals we eat, they just don't get stunned beforehand, which means they feel it for a second then they are dead.

Of course they suffer for longer just like a human left bleeding to death from a major artery being cut open. I think most places use the bolt process which kills most animals instantly but the odd few dont die so would suffer but not every one.

Let me make it clear as long as the meat tastes nice i couldnt care if the animal was still squealing in the back of the resturant as long as they turned up the music. I just get fed up on double standards for everything and think that halal is a crueler way that is ignored compared to other things regarding animals that people stick their noses in.