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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentor View Post
    If think you have a few misconceptions about how adoption works? You make it sound as if theres a shortage of children and that they are some sort of disposable commodity? Plus im totally against anyone who says any group should have priority in such issues, and think its sick that you think of children in such a way. Its deeply worrying.

    Adoption should be based around the children, they should be placed in families who will look after them next. Most definitely not just given to people who match some arbitrary criteria or get "priority".

    There are far more children in need of homes, than those willing and suitable to give them homes. Ruleing people out on petty basis's such as gender, sexuality, race or religion is purely stupid. Hence my position gay couples should have exactly the same adoption rights as anyone else.
    If people are willing to take in a child and capable of looking after them, then hopefully they can make a dramatic improvement to that child's quality of life.
    i dont see children as 'disposable commodity'

    But your right i don't understand the adoption process fully so its unfair of me to say who i believe should get priority.

    I don't agree with same-sex couples adopting but i am all for people adopting obviously all anyone wants is whats best for the kids but in my opinion if i was an adoptee id rather be put with a straight couple than a gay couple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieeran View Post
    i dont see children as 'disposable commodity'

    But your right i don't understand the adoption process fully so its unfair of me to say who i believe should get priority.

    I don't agree with same-sex couples adopting but i am all for people adopting obviously all anyone wants is whats best for the kids but in my opinion if i was an adoptee id rather be put with a straight couple than a gay couple.
    Again, I would like to ask you what if a same sex couple could provide a better home? You've done quite well in backing up your views (unlike some others), but I think straight people having priority, 'gay people not loving a child in the same way' and this post above are nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PriceTags View Post
    Again, I would like to ask you what if a same sex couple could provide a better home? You've done quite well in backing up your views (unlike some others), but I think straight people having priority, 'gay people not loving a child in the same way' and this post above are nonsense.
    i and to the loving bit i meant if a straight couple had tried for a baby n failed numerous times then they would treasure an adopted child moreso than a gay couple. dont twist my words because u know what i mean.


    good for them if they could, don't mean i agree with it because ive gave my view i dont agree with same sex couples adopting but u know what this thread has changed my views a little wincy bit because if the childs happy with a gay couple then who am i to judge it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieeran View Post
    i and to the loving bit i meant if a straight couple had tried for a baby n failed numerous times then they would treasure an adopted child moreso than a gay couple. dont twist my words because u know what i mean.


    good for them if they could, don't mean i agree with it because ive gave my view i dont agree with same sex couples adopting but u know what this thread has changed my views a little wincy bit because if the childs happy with a gay couple then who am i to judge it
    The point I'm making is at the end of the day, the couple (opposite sex or same sex) who can provide the best home will get the child as long as the child is happy to go to them. It's a completely fair system. I can't say I did know what you mean by "gay people wouldn't love a child in the same way". I took that to mean a gay couple wouldn't be able to look after a child and care for it in as well as a straight couple.

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    I cant be bothered to say anymore on the subject unless questioned i've said my views and why. in a nutshell; I don't agree with Gay adopting however if the child is happy i don't care who adopts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieeran View Post
    I cant be bothered to say anymore on the subject unless questioned i've said my views and why. in a nutshell; I don't agree with Gay adopting however if the child is happy i don't care who adopts
    Well in general children don't end up with parents they aren't happy with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PriceTags View Post
    The point I'm making is at the end of the day, the couple (opposite sex or same sex) who can provide the best home will get the child as long as the child is happy to go to them. It's a completely fair system. I can't say I did know what you mean by "gay people wouldn't love a child in the same way". I took that to mean a gay couple wouldn't be able to look after a child and care for it in as well as a straight couple.
    mhm, I think Gay Couples would be way better carers than some of the scum parents we say today in the uk who end up getting them taken away anyway.

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    To the person who asked, its perfectly fine for gay people to adopt in the UK and so it should be!

    http://www.adoptionuk.org/adoption_f...gland&menuid=1
    Who can adopt in England and Wales?
    Marital Status Single people, married couples, cohabiting couples and same-sex couples can all adopt. Sexuality is not a barrier to adoption.

    Age Adopters in England and Wales must be over 21 years of age (18 if one of a couple is the birth parent). There is no upper age limit, but the placing authority must be confident anyone adopting a child will have the energy required and be in good enough health to offer a stable home.

    Finances You do not need to be wealthy or a homeowner to adopt, but will need to give details of income and explain how you would support a child. You must have adequate space to cater for the needs of the child and, depending on your circumstances, may be eligible for financial support from the local authority, reviewed annually. You can also apply for means tested benefits and tax credits like any other family.

    Health Adoptive parents need the energy to cope with family life and meet the needs of the child throughout childhood and into early adulthood. Health and well-being play a part in the assessment process, but you are not automatically disqualified for being disabled, overweight or having a medical condition. If you have a medical condition or disability, but are unsure how you would cope on a practical level, use Adoption UK’s PAL service to speak to an adopter with that condition.

    Other Considerations If you have a criminal record, you must disclose this when applying. It will not automatically disqualify you from adopting, but the law will not permit anyone to adopt or foster if they, or a member of their household, has been convicted or cautioned for offences against a child.

    Due to the effects of passive smoking on babies and children, some adoption agencies are cautious about placing a young child in a smoking household, particularly if they have a history of heart or respiratory problems. Smokers are not automatically discounted from adopting, but an adoption agency will consider the possible effects and discuss the associative issues with prospective adopters.
    Sammeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost View Post
    mhm, I think Gay Couples would be way better carers than some of the scum parents we say today in the uk who end up getting them taken away anyway.
    That's why gay people should be and are allowed to adopt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PriceTags View Post
    That's why gay people should be and are allowed to adopt.
    yeah, but my point was that the children might not want to go through the childhood it COULD go through with all the bullying etc... i felt real sorry for the kid who is now getting home schooled because of the bullying that went on with him, due to having 2 mothers.

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