I'm fully aware of that, but taking such a view renders this entire thread useless. My post may be "untrue" in terms of it not being universal fact (which is itself fairly obvious from the nature of the thread) but it is in no way illogical as was the post I was quoting - logic remains logic whatever the subject, and stating that no-one at all can be called ugly because a bit of them might look nice is illogical.















Body shape is probably one of the first things you notice, then when your mind turns on you start noticing more about the person, like how they are structured. So I guess thin is a primary form of beauty, though larger shape can be too. It depends how the pull of the shape I guess, like some can be very wrinkly, saggy and flabby, while some hold it quite well. 

