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    I'm fully aware of that, but taking such a view renders this entire thread useless. My post may be "untrue" in terms of it not being universal fact (which is itself fairly obvious from the nature of the thread) but it is in no way illogical as was the post I was quoting - logic remains logic whatever the subject, and stating that no-one at all can be called ugly because a bit of them might look nice is illogical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    I'm fully aware of that, but taking such a view renders this entire thread useless. My post may be "untrue" in terms of it not being universal fact (which is itself fairly obvious from the nature of the thread) but it is in no way illogical as was the post I was quoting - logic remains logic whatever the subject, and stating that no-one at all can be called ugly because a bit of them might look nice is illogical.
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    You seem not to have a grasp on perspective. Someone being ugly is not a objective fact, it is a person's opinion. Just because you think someone is ugly doesn't mean I do, or anyone else does. Therefore most of your post is illogical and untrue.
    You do not seem to have a grasp on a debate. People's opinion on if "thin in beautiful" is just that, an opinion. How can you be involved in a debate and call someone's view illogical and untrue? It's not illogical and untrue, it's 100% logical and true because it's their opinion. I agree with FlyingJesus anyway.

    I think it's quite offensive that fat people put themselves in my field of vision.
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    Look I'm sorry but fat = ugly. The mistake we guys make though is thinking women judge on looks alone, for men the beauty of a woman is a huge factor in whether they would be interested in that woman. To say that personality can make you beautiful is ********. For women, the looks (especially not being fat) of a man are a factor, but this has to be backed up by personality. If you are a handsome bloke you will get more initial interest than an ugly or fat man, but (for example) a typical handsome 'nice guy' who is not masculine and doesn't have an ounce of testosterone in his body will fail at women, unless they find a woman who wants a stable family but has fun outside of this by having an affair with a testosteronized masculine man.

    If you are failing with girls you should realise that the only constant 'factor' in all of these encounters was you. Real beauty in a man is the man who says 'I am the great catch'. You may confuse this for someone who is a jerk or a **** head but the difference between this and a jerk (who btw gets loads of girls) is that this guy controls his masculinity without it controlling him (jerk). This may seem a wierd tangent but really attraction and how successful you are at it and beauty are synonymous and I saw the two overlapping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattFr View Post
    ^this.

    You do not seem to have a grasp on a debate. People's opinion on if "thin in beautiful" is just that, an opinion. How can you be involved in a debate and call someone's view illogical and untrue? It's not illogical and untrue, it's 100% logical and true because it's their opinion. I agree with FlyingJesus anyway.


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    If you read my first post of the thread you'll see that I agree that obesity isn't what our culture is attracted to, but you did not do this. He's allowed to reply to what someone else said, but he was doing it making statements without structure, or reason. "Totally illogical and untrue" "Yes it does" "No theyre not" was said without reason or explanation. You're getting on my back for responding to what he said, when he responded to what someone else said in an entirely vague and unsupported manner.

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    Your attracted to different people than others, if you think someone is hotter than another then that's your choice?
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    Anorexic - Ewww
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    Curves (Boobs and Ass- no flabby tum) - Ooooh ;]
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    I tend to think it's all in the face. A man or a woman can be ultimiately beautiful depending on the face. Dawn French for example, is considered to be quite beautiful and she's far from thin Body shape is probably one of the first things you notice, then when your mind turns on you start noticing more about the person, like how they are structured. So I guess thin is a primary form of beauty, though larger shape can be too. It depends how the pull of the shape I guess, like some can be very wrinkly, saggy and flabby, while some hold it quite well.

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    I agree with you Gomme, in that the best way for me to judge physical attraction towards another person is to see their face, not so much their weight.

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    I understand that some fat people can be better looking than other fat people. It's the same way ugly people can be better looking (less ugly) than other ugly people. But at the end of the day I could not possibly find myself physically attracted to someone packing a lot of weight. It's just not attractive.
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    Nobodies going to look at someone fat and think 'I'd tap that' and that's just a fact of life, and proves the world we live in today is shallow and full of vanity.


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