Tuition fee rises will not affect Welsh Students!

[FlyingJesus]

All this time here I was thinking that forums were meant to get lots of people together for wide discussion rather than 1-on-1s, silly me...

And no, I don't think richer people deserve uni more or I'd have said that

[Conservative,]

So you're saying that those who deserve to go to university are those who can afford it and not those who get good grades and would benefit this country to a greater degree?


I was frozen today!


Generally in a threaded conversation it's a reply to the statement, in an interview your reply can be directed at anyone.

Generally you can't read minds so who are you to say what other people mean? I meant it as a general statement...I didn't aim it at Shar or I would've said that.

And although you're quoting FJ I'll reply to the richer deserve Uni statement.

No they don't - those who get the best grades to. In my honest opinion, I think tuition fees should not exist for those with A*A*A* (or better) but those with not so good grades should have to pay. Get rid of pointless degrees and then everyone will be happy - the Uni's will be less crowded, there will be money to spend on subsidising tuition fees and those who are poorer but talented would get free/cheaper Uni.

However I do not think protesting and kicking up a fuss is the right way to go about it. I was talking to my Uncle (who has 4 kids, 22, 19, 17 & 15) and he lives in the states. It's $50k PER YEAR. As I said, in other threads and this one...if you want to taste "unfair" rises go to America.

[Catzsy]

Where do you think the money for the Welsh Assembly comes from?

England of course.

That's the entire point, if they can use the Governments money to subsidise Welsh Students then it is unfair for English students not to recieve the same treatment.

However, I think this is an important event in the suggested tuition fee rises as I am now starting to doubt whether it will get through parliament at all, there seems to be quite a lot of opposition so I think this may be the first major time the coalition gets itself into a bit of a situation.

Let's be clear the money for the Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly comes from the UK Government and UK Tax payers. They can spend the money given to them as they wish as far as education and health is concerned. They have chosen it not to raise tuition fees BUT the waiting lists for hospital appointments and operations is months and months longer than than in England so it comes down to priorities of the devolved bodies.
I find the remarks quite nationalistic and I feel it would be better to continue the fight against tuition fees in England rather than complaining about the the devolved areas of the UK as it seems that for some people they have made the right choice but tell that to the army of people waiting for operations.

[HotelUser]

Generally you can't read minds so who are you to say what other people mean? I meant it as a general statement...I didn't aim it at Shar or I would've said that.

And although you're quoting FJ I'll reply to the richer deserve Uni statement.

No they don't - those who get the best grades to. In my honest opinion, I think tuition fees should not exist for those with A*A*A* (or better) but those with not so good grades should have to pay. Get rid of pointless degrees and then everyone will be happy - the Uni's will be less crowded, there will be money to spend on subsidising tuition fees and those who are poorer but talented would get free/cheaper Uni.

However I do not think protesting and kicking up a fuss is the right way to go about it. I was talking to my Uncle (who has 4 kids, 22, 19, 17 & 15) and he lives in the states. It's $50k PER YEAR. As I said, in other threads and this one...if you want to taste "unfair" rises go to America.

Stop saying it's more expensive over here - it's not!

http://www.dal.ca/admissions/money_m...alculator.html

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CAMERON OUT GAGA IN X

tbh tho eye dunt think itz rly gud for the welsh pplz coz pple shudnt have 2 pay £9000 a year to go to uni den be charged credit card intrest on it when they leeve :S itz lyke wot the bobba srsly

[Chippiewill]

Stop saying it's more expensive over here - it's not!

http://www.dal.ca/admissions/money_m...alculator.html

That's Canada though, not America.

[alexxxxx]

Stop saying it's more expensive over here - it's not!

http://www.dal.ca/admissions/money_m...alculator.html

$CA15000 a year for engineering... and it's a 5 year course! and i do not spend $CA8000 on my accommodation here in the UK. Seems pricey to me. When I pay £3k/yr and £3.5k/yr on housing.

[Conservative,]

Stop saying it's more expensive over here - it's not!

http://www.dal.ca/admissions/money_m...alculator.html

That's Canada though, not America.

Ditto that. I said America, not Canada. My uncle has 4 children (as I said) 1 is currently at Uni and another is thinking of going...he's forking out $50k a year for tuition fees but luckily his son chose to go to a local Uni so he stays at home and doesn't have to pay for housing ect.

CAMERON OUT GAGA IN X

tbh tho eye dunt think itz rly gud for the welsh pplz coz pple shudnt have 2 pay £9000 a year to go to uni den be charged credit card intrest on it when they leeve :S itz lyke wot the bobba srsly

*REMOVED*. However they're not charged interest, and if they don't earn £21k they don't have to pay it back. Sorted.

and as Catzsy said - it's the priorities. The Welsh & Scots have decided to prioritise Education over health service. We've prioritised Health over education. (Although in 1997 I do believe Tony Blair's speech was: "Education, Education, Education".)

Edited by HotelUser (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude to other forum members, thanks.

[Chippiewill]

Ditto that. I said America, not Canada. My uncle has 4 children (as I said) 1 is currently at Uni and another is thinking of going...he's forking out $50k a year for tuition fees but luckily his son chose to go to a local Uni so he stays at home and doesn't have to pay for housing ect.

I would like to point out that Americans pay less taxes and their services for other things are better. Furthermore, comparing something to another country in a worse position does not mean that we cannot complain about it, that's like saying I cannot complain about the economy because Greece's economy collapsed. Your point serves no purpose. If we do not ask for what we want then what would we end up with in the end?

[Conservative,]

I would like to point out that Americans pay less taxes and their services for other things are better. Furthermore, comparing something to another country in a worse position does not mean that we cannot complain about it, that's like saying I cannot complain about the economy because Greece's economy collapsed. Your point serves no purpose. If we do not ask for what we want then what would we end up with in the end?

Get what you're given and be grateful.