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    Quote Originally Posted by jasey View Post
    If this is NameCheap's doing, then that is off-putting and something to be discussed. Involving Habbox in to it as if some bastion of gold has been broken in to and all of it was stolen is silly. Habbox is not important anymore if it ever could be considered that. Do let the traffic reports speak and not the people who still have their lives invested in a rusty endeavour. Even if NameCheap did this, I would bet they had a twit of a staff member behind this and the company will surely condemn what happened. I'm certain you can remember a few of the crazy staff members Habbox has had in the past who have done bad things. You've been here as long as I have. Habbox is nothing to sweat over in this case.
    In your own eyes Habbox may not be important but the site still has users, to a lot of us who work on this site (including me) we still think Habbox is an important site. The users information throughout Habbox is very important to keep safe, yes nothing has been stolen or leaked. But regardless of that, this isn't classed as "minor".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    Recursion is getting root access afaik.
    Yes, have just been told. How many years too late?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasey View Post
    Oh, my dear, yes I do. Is playing "teen tech genius" to the few others who care enough to read in to your message protecting anything? No, it's feeding your ego. Perhaps you get off on exciting (not so clever) takeovers of sagging fansites for an antique online community. Maybe it's very thrilling for you to decide whether or not this can be considered an 'exploit' or not. I guess there is the possibility that when you can't get credibility on a forum dedicated to this sort of thing, it feels good to big up what you read about on a forum that hires staff who post in Spam asking for REP. I really can't be sure.

    The point of my post is that the reaction to what happened was melodramatic and this thread is as well. It is not a big deal. It has been done and the userbase's information is safe as of now. There needn't be a sixty post analysis on who dare did this and how in the world they managed this evil plan. It's Habbox, get a grip.
    Tom's eloquent reply to you, which he made several posts prior already answers the point you raise about a melodramatic stigma being created because of the Habbox.com nameservers being changed. Tom said that Habbox, like any other website or even business owes its users a duty of care when it comes to the preservation and security of personal information. Notwithstanding this, any disturbance in website uptime is a problem because it impacts Habbox's functionality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    Now now, you shouldn't criticise code in public.
    Neither you nor I vandalized the Habbox.com website in attempt to exploit its members.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    Anybody who is focusing their efforts on stealing a Habbo domain is obviously not a fantastic hacker otherwise they'd be going after higher priority targets who handle card data.
    Another fortunate point for Habbox, although regardless when security and site uptime are interfered with it does become a problem nonetheless. So, if we can counter-exploit their exploitation of the fansite by exploiting their failures as a hacker then I say go for it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippiewill View Post
    I believe Jin has control whenever his hard drive isn't broken and I believe Matt himself thinks he doesn't need major access to the domain.
    Ah, so Jin does have domain control? That's good to hear Matt's loyal to the fansite and Matt's secure, it's fair on his part if he doesn't want/feels like he should be given that level of access, but I'm still sticking to my opinion that he should have it nontheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recursion View Post
    And I bet you would be one of the first in the queue of people complaining in the Feedback forum should our database have been leaked last night about how we should be more careful with your personal information. Funnily enough, Habbox may well be a kid's fansite or whatever, but (un)fortunately we're still bound by the various UK laws, still have a responsibility to protect our users and their information and also to continue providing a good service and not just disappear overnight, as many fansites do. If it wasn't for sites like Habbox or other projects I've been involved in, I wouldn't know nearly as much as I do now, technically, and certainly wouldn't be applying for the jobs I have been recently.

    Believe me, I have far bigger and better things to be doing than sitting around here helping out Habbox in any way, but I choose to because I like to have input into these things and I've seen Habbox grow (almost) right from the beginning. My ego is already as big as I need it be, I don't need to put any effort into making it any bigger, thank you very much.
    No, I wouldn't be worried about any of my personal information being leaked from Habbox's database because I am not stupid enough to put anything sensitive in to the hands of some volunteer teens who wish they had a tech job that wasn't based out of their bedroom. The things Habbox has in its database on me are so silly that I would post them publicly if I had a reason to. The database leaking would not hurt me at all and it wouldn't hurt anyone else either unless they are thick and don't protect themselves online. This isn't a decade ago — people have been warned everywhere. So, err, yeah — you can cancel that bet if the bookie will let you because I do fear you would be losing a few quid.

    I'm glad you learned something from working on Habbox in the past but it is clear that you are above analysing the details of this weak attempt at stealing information from the site besides, as I said already, for the sake of nostalgia. Even if it is because you have a soft spot in your heart for Habbox, you can cut the drama without losing credibility. Some of the "tech" users' posts in this thread border on hysteria. I'm thrilled you are pleased with the size of your ego as well. I am glad you got to see Habbox grow. So did I and so did many other people on the forum, right from the start.

    Would you be willing to bet any of the money you were going to place on me caring about my info in Habbox's database on how obvious it is that the site as a whole is far past its apex and is now swirling down the sink?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasey View Post
    No, I wouldn't be worried about any of my personal information being leaked from Habbox's database because I am not stupid enough to put anything sensitive in to the hands of some volunteer teens who wish they had a tech job that wasn't based out of their bedroom. The things Habbox has in its database on me are so silly that I would post them publicly if I had a reason to. The database leaking would not hurt me at all and it wouldn't hurt anyone else either unless they are thick and don't protect themselves online. This isn't a decade ago — people have been warned everywhere. So, err, yeah — you can cancel that bet if the bookie will let you because I do fear you would be losing a few quid.

    I'm glad you learned something from working on Habbox in the past but it is clear that you are above analysing the details of this weak attempt at stealing information from the site besides, as I said already, for the sake of nostalgia. Even if it is because you have a soft spot in your heart for Habbox, you can cut the drama without losing credibility. Some of the "tech" users' posts in this thread border on hysteria. I'm thrilled you are pleased with the size of your ego as well. I am glad you got to see Habbox grow. So did I and so did many other people on the forum, right from the start.

    Would you be willing to bet any of the money you were going to place on me caring about my info in Habbox's database on how obvious it is that the site as a whole is far past its apex and is now swirling down the sink?
    Don't make such comments when you don't know us at all in real life. Two people who are working for us as Site Coders and doing other various roles have jobs in real life working with servers and development. The reason why they are working for Habbox is because they know what they are actually doing and do take pride in their work.

    You may not care about your personal information but Habbox does, we have to care for everyone who has ever signed up onto our website regardless if they give a dam or not. We have to follow laws and we do that because we care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    Don't make such comments when you don't know us at all in real life. Two people who are working for us as Site Coders and doing other various roles have jobs in real life working with servers and development. The reason why they are working for Habbox is because they know what they are actually doing and do take pride in their work.
    I wouldn't have even justified replying to that moronic comment Matt, don't feed the trolls eh
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    @jasey - Passwords, e-mails, user names... It may not seem like much, but when the Playstation Network was compromised, the usernames, passwords and e-mails could of been used to gain entry elsewhere. In this case, someone could have their username linked to their Playstation Account (which many do) and through some magic find out how to gain entry and so forth. It's unlikely, but possible. I'm not finding it that big a deal, and I wouldn't say the people here at Habbox are either - they seem to be handling it quite well given the limitations - no drama, just honesty and swift handling of the event. They seem quite annoyed that Namecheap were so careless, and rightly so
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx View Post
    In your own eyes Habbox may not be important but the site still has users, to a lot of us who work on this site (including me) we still think Habbox is an important site. The users information throughout Habbox is very important to keep safe, yes nothing has been stolen or leaked. But regardless of that, this isn't classed as "minor".
    It is incredibly minor. Half the active users on this forum are staff as well. I suppose you still have aspirations and perhaps delusions about what Habbox can become and what it is, but as I said, in the grand scheme of things it isn't major. There have been worse attacks against Habbox in the past and having a talk circle about the whole thing after we have the alarmist warnings about the tragedy of what has happened just pushes it over the edge. Read the news or something and then try to realise what is major — it is certainly not a site with a few hundred active users being compromised by a script kiddie. In fact, I think the care put in to this by the six or seven people in this thread that are flippant comprises most of the care put in to this in total. It is pretty telling when the only people going on about this against what I am saying are people who are invested in the site itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasey View Post
    It is incredibly minor. Half the active users on this forum are staff as well. I suppose you still have aspirations and perhaps delusions about what Habbox can become and what it is, but as I said, in the grand scheme of things it isn't major. There have been worse attacks against Habbox in the past and having a talk circle about the whole thing after we have the alarmist warnings about the tragedy of what has happened just pushes it over the edge. Read the news or something and then try to realise what is major — it is certainly not a site with a few hundred active users being compromised by a script kiddie. In fact, I think the care put in to this by the six or seven people in this thread that are flippant comprises most of the care put in to this in total. It is pretty telling when the only people going on about this against what I am saying are people who are invested in the site itself.

    Do they give you a sceptre to go along with your 'Management' userbar, Matt?
    You didn't have to post in this thread at all, stop being a troll.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasey View Post
    No, I wouldn't be worried about any of my personal information being leaked from Habbox's database because I am not stupid enough to put anything sensitive in to the hands of some volunteer teens who wish they had a tech job that wasn't based out of their bedroom. The things Habbox has in its database on me are so silly that I would post them publicly if I had a reason to. The database leaking would not hurt me at all and it wouldn't hurt anyone else either unless they are thick and don't protect themselves online. This isn't a decade ago — people have been warned everywhere. So, err, yeah — you can cancel that bet if the bookie will let you because I do fear you would be losing a few quid.

    I'm glad you learned something from working on Habbox in the past but it is clear that you are above analysing the details of this weak attempt at stealing information from the site besides, as I said already, for the sake of nostalgia. Even if it is because you have a soft spot in your heart for Habbox, you can cut the drama without losing credibility. Some of the "tech" users' posts in this thread border on hysteria. I'm thrilled you are pleased with the size of your ego as well. I am glad you got to see Habbox grow. So did I and so did many other people on the forum, right from the start.

    Would you be willing to bet any of the money you were going to place on me caring about my info in Habbox's database on how obvious it is that the site as a whole is far past its apex and is now swirling down the sink?
    Erm hi there. I do actually work a tech job and I'm helping out habbox at the same time.

    Just my two pence now... Would you rather us not investigate it at all? because from what you're saying you're actually criticising us for doing what we're meant to do. We only know it was a feeble attempt at gaining information because we looked into it. Recursion spent the best part of a day looking into it actually. It's good that you've not put any sensitive data into the database because we haven't really asked you for any. Good to know you're using the service as you're meant to. I'll rewager that bet and say you would have been one of the first to criticise if we didn't know what the hell was going on last night, yes?
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