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    Quote Originally Posted by Samanfa View Post
    Do you not have approval of yourself then? Do you just accept yourself? You are gay aren't you, sorry if you're not, I thought someone said you were as that was upsetting ?
    I accept it as a fact of life, but that doesn't mean it's right or moral just because it now applies to me - which is why I resist it even if I don't want to and have done for the past four/five years odd. And i've tried convincing myself otherwise but the arguments simply do not stack up that I have so far read. The Bible is clear on the issue, there is no way around it. It would be wrong of me to lie to myself, be dishonest to myself and make it 'right' or moral in my head just to make it easier for me.
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    You're right the Bible is very clear on the issue - it very clearly states in all of the prophecies of the coming of Christ that He will cause the Old Law to become null and void because He brings the New Covenant. If you believe that Jesus was the Christ then you follow only His laws (which don't mention homosexuality at all), and if you don't believe that then you're not a Christian by definition
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    You're right the Bible is very clear on the issue - it very clearly states in all of the prophecies of the coming of Christ that He will cause the Old Law to become null and void because He brings the New Covenant. If you believe that Jesus was the Christ then you follow only His laws (which don't mention homosexuality at all), and if you don't believe that then you're not a Christian by definition
    The Biblical excuses so far put forth by Matthew Vines (if you are familiar with that viral video) in his hour or so long lecture I found quite interesting - that was until I came across thesehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9XrHu2uopI series of recordings rebutting those usual excuses.

    But aside from the Biblical debate, I have other problems with the issue too - from culture, science to health. A complex issue.


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    The first of the James White vids literally tries stating that the quote in Mark 10 is in relation to gay sex which is a flat lie. He then for the rest of his arguments relies on the supposition that homosexuality (as an orientation/temptation rather than act) is a choice and that it's impossible for gay people to be monogamous lol - and even more wildly that heterosexual people are almost always looking out for long-term relationships with one person. Not sure which rock he got his doctorate under but it certainly wasn't one with a link to the real world

    I know that you aren't interested in the Biblical view alone but if you're going to use it as a source of your ideals at all can I ask why you don't so actively despise bacon or prawns realistically one ought to be a supersessionist in full or not at all I'd have thought, otherwise it's just pick-and-choose morality which you don't appear to be a fan of
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    I'd be disappointed, but I wouldn't not accept them...

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    How could you not accept them? Gay as a sexuality is becoming more frequent these days although some people in society may not accept it/like it, theres no harm in it.

    So to answer the question, yes id accept my child he/she said they are gay, i mean it'd be a bit hypocritical as i am gay myself .








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    While I do believe in God and I do identify myself as a Catholic (I mean barely I'm only technically baptised), I absolutely would accept my child if they turned out to be gay, lesbian, bisexual whatever the case.
    Firstly they are my child, I have never had a problem with the homosexual community, in fact some of my good friends are gay/lesbian/bi. They are just humans like the rest of us, only difference is the like the same sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marketing View Post
    I'd be disappointed, but I wouldn't not accept them...

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    Do you mean but you would accept them?

    This thread is actually very split in opinions. Makes for an interesting read!

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