Leave moderating to the moderators rule is ridiculous and lame and stupid

[wordofwisdom]

i see no issue with it i mean sometimes people question what they have done wrong i can see the positive and negative side form this but i think you should at least inform them about the rule break

[Drewar]

I'd like to disagree, I think the majority of feedback threads these day have constructive criticism/feedback, rarely do you see a thread say: 'CHANGE THIS BECAUSE IT SUCKS'.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but mine is different from yours. I suppose we are at an impasse.

As I see it, there is a distinct group of people who consistently make demands and negative comments. Even if a thread starts off as constructive by talking about general suggestions for a department or specific issue that needs to be addressed within a department, it almost always takes a turn for the personal/negative and ends up attacking a specific staff member or group of staff members, which I think is completely unnecessary.

People around here are entitled, and I think that they should realize that Habbox is run by hardworking volunteers who don't "owe" anything to the people who are constantly bringing in negative energy and breaking the rules. They should appreciate the efforts of staff more, and if they feel really passionate about changing something, they should express themselves in a clear and constructive way that does not lead to specific staff members or group of staff members being insulted.

[Kardan]

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but mine is different from yours. I suppose we are at an impasse.

As I see it, there is a distinct group of people who consistently make demands and negative comments. Even if a thread starts off as constructive by talking about general suggestions for a department or specific issue that needs to be addressed within a department, it almost always takes a turn for the personal/negative and ends up attacking a specific staff member or group of staff members, which I think is completely unnecessary.

People around here are entitled, and I think that they should realize that Habbox is run by hardworking volunteers who don't "owe" anything to the people who are constantly bringing in negative energy and breaking the rules. They should appreciate the efforts of staff more, and if they feel really passionate about changing something, they should express themselves in a clear and constructive way that does not lead to specific staff members or group of staff members being insulted.

Well, threads not having constructive feedback is an entirely different thing to users dragging in certain members of staff. But that also depends on the situation, for example there's a difference between saying "Phil, when you do the next I'm a Habbo you need to do this and this differently" to "calum0812 is an awful moderator". The first sentence is acceptable in a feedback thread, the 2nd sentence, not so much.

[Drewar]

Well, threads not having constructive feedback is an entirely different thing to users dragging in certain members of staff. But that also depends on the situation, for example there's a difference between saying "Phil, when you do the next I'm a Habbo you need to do this and this differently" to "calum0812 is an awful moderator". The first sentence is acceptable in a feedback thread, the 2nd sentence, not so much.

I disagree. Phil doesn't need to do anything. He isn't a slave to the forum members. He's putting on the event because he wants to. Not because he needs to. And even if it was necessary for him to put on an event, it isn't necessary for him to do it your way. I'm sure Phil (just using him as an example) designed the event with the intent of it being fair and fun for all participants, even if something inadvertently wasn't fair or fun. I'm sure if someone politely pointed it out to him (rather than "demand" something be changed) that he would incorporate it in to the next one.

An acceptable way of putting it would be "Phil, I liked the I'm a Habbo event because of reasons a,b and c, but I think it could be even better if next time you tried incorporating suggestions x,y,z".

[Kardan]

I disagree. Phil doesn't need to do anything. He isn't a slave to the forum members. He's putting on the event because he wants to. Not because he needs to. And even if it was necessary for him to put on an event, it isn't necessary for him to do it your way. I'm sure Phil (just using him as an example) designed the event with the intent of it being fair and fun for all participants, even if something inadvertently wasn't fair or fun. I'm sure if someone politely pointed it out to him (rather than "demand" something be changed) that he would incorporate it in to the next one.

An acceptable way of putting it would be "Phil, I liked the I'm a Habbo event because of reasons a,b and c, but I think it could be even better if next time you tried incorporating suggestions x,y,z".

Did you read the I'm a Habbo feedback thread? Because that's how it looked like to me? I don't recall anyone demanding anything.

[karter]

Because your basically pointless posting tell someone they broke a rule when you can simply just report it. It gains nothing telling someone they broke the rules

not worth a warning either

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When I made a thread about this like 1-2 years ago the reason given was that "some users pretend to be moderators"

now the reason changed

GET REAL

[Drewar]

Did you read the I'm a Habbo feedback thread? Because that's how it looked like to me? I don't recall anyone demanding anything.

Did I say that people demanded things in that thread? No.

The only reason I mentioned that event at all was because you brought it up as an example. A hypothetical situation. And your example highlighted the general entitlement attitude of many people of the forum.

Anyways, I don't have the time or energy to engage in such a trivial argument on the internet any longer.

I've stated my opinion. If you don't agree with it, that's your prerogative

[Kardan]

Did I say that people demanded things in that thread? No.

Well, you did say:

"I'm sure if someone politely pointed it out to him (rather than "demand" something be changed) that he would incorporate it in to the next one."

So I took that as you saying people demanded things in that thread.

And I'm not sure I'd call this an argument either, but ah well

[Inseriousity.]

Which is exactly what people said in that feedback thread. They said what they liked, they said what they'd do next time. He didn't have to host the event but if he wants to host another one then there's feedback there to make the next one better. I think using that example people appreciated that actually he went out of his way to do something extra, shake things up a little and naturally that also meant that things didn't always go to plan or could've been planned better. Where it's mostly negative is when there's little effort or no sign of progress. The achievements system is going to be released soon, I am sure there is going to be feedback about that but there will be feedback precisely because it's different and new and we will also respect that they put the effort and work in to achieve that. I think generally this forum is tough, there can be a lot of sarcasm and people entrenched in a certain viewpoint but generally it's also fair and appreciates hard work and creativity.

As for the rule, I personally think it's nicer to have threads that don't have a couple of people telling someone that their post is breaking the rules when there's a report system there already that would take care of that.

[e5]

not worth a warning either

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When I made a thread about this like 1-2 years ago the reason given was that "some users pretend to be moderators"

now the reason changed

GET REAL

:S I wasn't a mod 1-2 years ago lmao. It is additional because people try to impersonate