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    1) It's fine to use if/then arguments when it's something that someone actually does believe. I did that, you did not. You invented a story.

    2) You didn't use the word concept at all, you responded to my post stating exact examples of differences and said "NOPE NOT DIFFERENT ALL THE SAME". Backpedalling and trying to change what you said as usual.

    3) I haven't called you names in this thread at all, that's been your tactic with the whole "lol liberal" "you people" thing pretending to be under attack for something other than your awful attempt at debate which you still continue with despite me having told you plenty of times that I'm not a liberal. I don't have a hard time debating you (as seen by the fact that I actually respond to the points that are put up and say things that make sense), I have a hard time getting through your skull because you absolutely refuse to learn, which is infuriating. You have never once actually resolved any points, and in this last post of yours you have yet again ignored every single point to just talk **** and change the subject. If you'd like to genuinely debate the issue, try answering the points that have been made, it would make a nice change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    1) It's fine to use if/then arguments when it's something that someone actually does believe. I did that, you did not. You invented a story.

    2) You didn't use the word concept at all, you responded to my post stating exact examples of differences and said "NOPE NOT DIFFERENT ALL THE SAME". Backpedalling and trying to change what you said as usual.

    3) I haven't called you names in this thread at all, that's been your tactic with the whole "lol liberal" "you people" thing pretending to be under attack for something other than your awful attempt at debate which you still continue with despite me having told you plenty of times that I'm not a liberal. I don't have a hard time debating you (as seen by the fact that I actually respond to the points that are put up and say things that make sense), I have a hard time getting through your skull because you absolutely refuse to learn, which is infuriating. You have never once actually resolved any points, and in this last post of yours you have yet again ignored every single point to just talk **** and change the subject. If you'd like to genuinely debate the issue, try answering the points that have been made, it would make a nice change.
    1) Which you used. I don't believe in your argument therefore under your theory it is not "fine".

    2) Lol okay, you've confused me now.

    3) okay but calling me a cretin and idiot in other threads is justified but certainly not this one. I called you a liberal so you have the right to throw a fit and cry. To your point about "genuinely debating", you try that for once instead of the name calling. It will help your credibility but at this but you are the one that is looking like the "cretin" here. I still love that term btw and will keep referencing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landon View Post
    1) Which you used. I don't believe in your argument therefore under your theory it is not "fine".
    So you don't believe that a foetus is a child? Because that's what I referenced and you later stated it yourself

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    2) Lol okay, you've confused me now.
    It's really very simple, and I've said it lots of times now. I said that not every death is the same thing, you said it was. You didn't say that the concept is the same, you said that death is death and there's no difference between different deaths. You literally used those words, and now you're trying to claim that it means something else

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    3) okay but calling me a cretin and idiot in other threads is justified but certainly not this one. I called you a liberal so you have the right to throw a fit and cry. To your point about "genuinely debating", you try that for once instead of the name calling. It will help your credibility but at this but you are the one that is looking like the "cretin" here. I still love that term btw and will keep referencing it.
    I didn't say it was justified, I said I haven't done it here. Why do you keep telling me I'm calling names when I'm not? I take it from this post IN WHICH YOU ONCE AGAIN FAIL TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS ANY SINGLE ISSUE AT ALL DESPITE BEING ASKED SPECIFICALLY TO DO SO AND INSTEAD JUST CARRY ON LYING that your decision is no, you do not want a proper debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    So you don't believe that a foetus is a child? Because that's what I referenced and you later stated it yourself



    It's really very simple, and I've said it lots of times now. I said that not every death is the same thing, you said it was. You didn't say that the concept is the same, you said that death is death and there's no difference between different deaths. You literally used those words, and now you're trying to claim that it means something else



    I didn't say it was justified, I said I haven't done it here. Why do you keep telling me I'm calling names when I'm not? I take it from this post IN WHICH YOU ONCE AGAIN FAIL TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS ANY SINGLE ISSUE AT ALL DESPITE BEING ASKED SPECIFICALLY TO DO SO AND INSTEAD JUST CARRY ON LYING that your decision is no, you do not want a proper debate.
    I try not to debate with people that don't debate properly as it is. I like to remain civil. You break that barrier because apparently your feelings matter over anyone elses. Also, I'm not an "absolute cretin", so what you said is absolutely wrong because I am not what you call me lmao

    1) Yes, I believe a fetus is a child.
    2) I said the concept of death is the same. The concept of dying doesn't change.

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    Anyways I need to leave lol, this isn't only incredibly embarrassing for you but for me for not leaving when I started being called trash lmao

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    1) So I didn't make anything up at all then, cool, you lied as usual.
    2) It was in direct reference to abortion and execution, you can't now just pretend that it's not because you got called out. If you really really didn't mean it that way and aren't just trying to cover for yourself then it's no-one's fault but your own that your post was misinterpreted, as you posted it in response to a very specific sentence - not to mention that reading it the way you're now claiming means it has absolutely no relevance or meaning in the discussion.

    And where you get off on claiming I don't debate properly I really don't know. All you've done in your replies to me is lie, bring up old posts that are nothing to do with this discussion, and go off topic/ignore what's been said. That's not civil or proper, and feelings haven't come into this at all other than your insistence that your hurt feelings are more important than the current topic. If you want to actually respond, do so properly, but until you learn to do that there's really no point in repeating myself just to try getting through to you.


    Nice edit too, but nope I didn't call you trash either. Please stop lying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    Nice edit too, but nope I didn't call you trash either. Please stop lying.
    Lol think if you were called a disgusting pig for not believing in murder. Knowing your beliefs, you would cry and riot in the streets instead of manning up and taking it. The thing with liberals are that the stereotypes are almost always true.

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    That's also not something that I said. I'm also not a liberal. Everything that you've typed there is a flat out lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    That's also not something that I said. I'm also not a liberal. Everything that you've typed there is a flat out lie.
    I'm not convinced bud.

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    You're not convinced that I didn't say that to you? Or you're not convinced that the guy who voted for Brexit and the Conservatives isn't a liberal? In both cases you're wrong, in both cases provably so, and in at least the first case you know this to be the case and still lied.

    Just searched the entire thread, no-one has used the words "trash" or "pig" except you lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    in both cases provably so, and in at least the first case you know this to be the case and still lied.
    Oh. But calling conservatives racist, sexist, homophobic bigots is okay and not calling you a liberal lol. Or telling me I hate women because I don't believe in killing kids.

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    A child can't dream to be dead if it isnt already alive

    Nobody has suggested aborting all the babies - please take this seriously We don't need to force women to give birth just to 'continue our species', that's just ridiculous to suggest! The abortion rate is only 14.6 abortions per 1,000 women in the US according to one source which is the lowest level since abortion was legalised - hardly a shortage of babies being born!

    A man has just as much responsibility in causing pregnancy as the woman, if not more!

    Even if C-sections are safe in developed countries why should a woman be forced by law to have to go under the knife to remove a baby she does not want. Having an abortion itself is punishing enough let alone being forced to give birth by laws created by old men in suits in the white house!

    You are just a disgusting pig with no respect for women as you have shown and it's very sad you still think this way!
    @FlyingJesus; Your searching skills are terrible

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