Homosexuality in the eyes of God

[satan]

Wait A minute I am bisexual. Sexuality should not matter

[asher_]

Satan don't flame this thread

[FlyingJesus]

I'm not going to bother arguing the existance of God, as that's irrelevant. The point of this thread isn't "does God exist?" but "do Bible teachings portray homosexuality as wrong?". To answer the question in the frankest way possible, yes. Whoever said (on the 2nd or 3rd page) that there's no evidence to show homosexuality as wrong, check out the original post.

Now yes, you can say that it's Old Testament, which also says about slavery, animal sacrifice and other things that we see as pointless (or even wrong) these days, but they are just as relevant. The fact that people don't do these things any more doesn't change the fact that they are Bible laws. I hear a lot of "times have changed, the religion should change with the times", but why should it? How many other religions change just because society does? Do we see Muslims saying "oh never mind girls, you might as well get semi-naked, the rest of the world is"? I think not.

I don't know (or even know of) a single Christian who complies to every Christian law. The only reason I dislike the religion is for that fact - it's not taken seriously. If you're going to proclaim yourself religious, know and stick to your own teachings.

About forgiveness.. if you do something over and over again, you obviously aren't really sorry for doing it. The idea that God has to forgive you for everything is misread, He will forgive you if you are truly sorry, but if you are not sorry and ask forgiveness, it's more deception and is in fact a lessened chance of you being forgiven.

To sum up: If you're a Christian, you should respect the laws of your God and not submit to the sin of sodomy. If you're not, bum away to your heart's content.

[asher_]

Even the sin of sodomy can be forgiven.

[DMB-Hosting]

FFS Mentor your too clever -.-

[Craig]

Well humans evloved.. They were not created by some big guy in white. The big bang created the universe. So people are free to do what they like.. Also you wouldent obey rules the someone you have never met on the other side of the world of created? So why should you obey rules that are in a book that most likely some guy with a over exsited imagination wrote about God and Jesus.

Also lets say you are a christian, how do you know you are beliving in the right religon, thats if there it any true religions at all..

There is no full sientific evidence that God created the world or even Jesus exsited.. (Same applys to other religions). The only thing be have full proof for is the big bang and that we evlolved. IF a scientist by unquestionable doubt and other people support it proves that one of the religions is a true religion (However unliky it is) then, yes I will support it. Untill then I am with the big bang & the evolution idea.

If God was in control of the world, then why wouldent he make eveyone belive in him...

It's called free will "/ If you choose to believe in God and live by his commandments etc you will be rewarded but if you don't believe in God and don't stick to his commandments you will be punished...its not rocket science.

O.o, Why would god care if you were gay? If he's real
No offence, but I don't like christainit (sp?) for what they did to wiccan's in the burning times. And that most of them try to convert me to christainit (sp?).

Why would God care? Cos of pro-creation, simple really. I won't go into detail atm but you should know what is meant from pro-creation and why God would not want Gays.

Who made us then?
Dong go on about evolution, because then who made the first creature.

There is a lot more to this world than we think

As mentor rightly said wth? Evolution has nothing to do with creation of life. Evolution is how animals/living things adapt to it's surroundings thus being more likely to survive and thus carry this on through production so their offspring have the same features, that's evolution and has no relevance to creation "/

We did about Abortion, Euthanasia, Utiliterianism, (the ethics and philosophy behide each one). We did about the philosophy of religion. We did loads about what different philosophers said about Gods exisitance or nonexistance. But to do the course you have to be very open minded and be able to look at the subjects from a believers and non believers point of view. All the essays you do need to have points form both sides, thats why I loved the course. As I'm agnostic and don't truely believe or not believe in God I was able to see points from both perspectives. Anyway you should enjoy it

Ace sounds awesome

God by definition is the uncreated creator of the universe, so asking 'Who created God?' is completely illogical.

Definition? What we're not going by some little definition given by the bible which has changed since it was first created "/ If you wanna start going on about whats logical and whats illogical then just think about God and how illogical that is =/

Now yes, you can say that it's Old Testament, which also says about slavery, animal sacrifice and other things that we see as pointless (or even wrong) these days, but they are just as relevant. The fact that people don't do these things any more doesn't change the fact that they are Bible laws. I hear a lot of "times have changed, the religion should change with the times", but why should it? How many other religions change just because society does? Do we see Muslims saying "oh never mind girls, you might as well get semi-naked, the rest of the world is"? I think not.

Too right it's just ignorant people that want to 'keep up with the times' but if Religion like Christianity has been around for thousands of years and hasn't changed then why should WE be the ones who change it? Pretty stupid people that say that "/

[FlyingJesus]

Even the sin of sodomy can be forgiven.

It's pretty difficult to commit sodomy without meaning to.. yes you can be forgiven, for any sin in fact, but you have to be truly sorry. I won't go as far as to say that sodomy is an unforgiveable sin, but God blatantly isn't a fan, seeing as how He commanded that sodomites be put to death, and eventually killed them all himself with a rain of sulphur and brimstone. Basically, if you're a Christian, you're supposed to love, fear and respect God above all else, so you shouldn't be wanting to do anything to upset or anger Him in the first place.

[Virgin Mary]

Well humans evloved.. They were not created by some big guy in white. The big bang created the universe. So people are free to do what they like.. Also you wouldent obey rules the someone you have never met on the other side of the world of created? So why should you obey rules that are in a book that most likely some guy with a over exsited imagination wrote about God and Jesus.

Also lets say you are a christian, how do you know you are beliving in the right religon, thats if there it any true religions at all..

There is no full sientific evidence that God created the world or even Jesus exsited.. (Same applys to other religions). The only thing be have full proof for is the big bang and that we evlolved. IF a scientist by unquestionable doubt and other people support it proves that one of the religions is a true religion (However unliky it is) then, yes I will support it. Untill then I am with the big bang & the evolution idea.

If God was in control of the world, then why wouldent he make eveyone belive in him...

The big bang and evolution are theories, they aren't proven. The big bang is illogical and inconsistent, where did the matter and the motion that started it come from? Without a creator nothing could be created, hence there must have been a creator. He doesn't make everyone believe in him because doing so would be interferring with humans free will and also this separates the good people from the bad people; it's like saying why doesn't he just make everyone good.

[asher_]

Definition? What we're not going by some little definition given by the bible which has changed since it was first created "/ If you wanna start going on about whats logical and whats illogical then just think about God and how illogical that is =/

There is nothing illogical about God.

[Craig]

There is nothing illogical about God.

Just because your Christian doesn't mean you have to deny the illogicialness about him. I mean if there truly was a God, Gods could make a weight which he is unable to lift yeah? So when he's made it he wouldn't be all powerful if he couldnt lift it, but if he was able to lift it then surely he couldnt make it?