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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    The team do not take just two values and put that as the adverage, I know from when smiddy1234, Mit and me were managers, we had decent sized teams where values flooded in, I never changed values unless I had gone and checked them once rvr's started reporting them.

    The rare values system does work, as it's what rares go for, Habbox have no right to say Sky Dragons are 12T when they clearly do not go for it.

    No Habblous Venomous Plants will not go for 12T because they are going to come out eventually, therefore no one will buy them, so making them 12T just because there are five of them is stupid.
    You were managers, so you have no idea if the RVR's were totally reliable at the time. Sure you went and checked if some of them were correct, but loads of different RVR's say different values, so you can never be sure the value your putting up is accurate. Like i said, most RVR's usually look at the habbox price, and increase or decrease the value slightly with a made-up reason.

    Like i said above, the system isnt reliable. Its little changes of numbers that people say are correct and show that its proven by giving the names of one/two people whove made the trade. Real people in real life who do this kinda stuff for a living wouldnt constantly change the price of an antique just because of what people have bought it in an auction. This is exactly the same thing, just on a computer rather than at an auction house. So if the rare values department want to be real experts, they need to make the necessary changes.

    No one knows if the habbolus venemous plant is coming out, thats just a load of stupid rumors youve been told about. Therefore, the price should rise to 12T since the amount of them is constant. You fail to realise that getting the right value is a mixture of how many of them are in the market and the trading price. There is some truth in what you are saying though, if they do come out (which i doubt they will), the price will drastically drop and it will no longer be a super. But no one knows if that will happen for definite, so the price shouldnt alter just because people spread false rumors that its coming out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kibbis View Post
    Habbo have said jade drag is the last dragon to be released thus the sky drag will never be released but habbolus plant could be released anytime.
    Your are correct with the dragons, i knew anyway that the sky drag wasnt going to be released since L_W stated at the prize giving that the furni was exclusive for the pixel maze.

    You are also right in saying the habbolus plant could come out anytime. But there is usually some hints of a release of a new furni beforehand, and if not, then the furni thats been released wont have been given to anyone else before on habbo uk. There hasnt been any hints so far, so therefore i believe that it wont come out anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exelglug View Post
    You were managers, so you have no idea if the RVR's were totally reliable at the time. Sure you went and checked if some of them were correct, but loads of different RVR's say different values, so you can never be sure the value your putting up is accurate. Like i said, most RVR's usually look at the habbox price, and increase or decrease the value slightly with a made-up reason.

    Like i said above, the system isnt reliable. Its little changes of numbers that people say are correct and show that its proven by giving the names of one/two people whove made the trade. Real people in real life who do this kinda stuff for a living wouldnt constantly change the price of an antique just because of what people have bought it in an auction. This is exactly the same thing, just on a computer rather than at an auction house. So if the rare values department want to be real experts, they need to make the necessary changes.

    No one knows if the habbolus venemous plant is coming out, thats just a load of stupid rumors youve been told about. Therefore, the price should rise to 12T since the amount of them is constant. You fail to realise that getting the right value is a mixture of how many of them are in the market and the trading price. There is some truth in what you are saying though, if they do come out (which i doubt they will), the price will drastically drop and it will no longer be a super. But no one knows if that will happen for definite, so the price shouldnt alter just because people spread false rumors that its coming out.



    Your are correct with the dragons, i knew anyway that the sky drag wasnt going to be released since L_W stated at the prize giving that the furni was exclusive for the pixel maze.

    You are also right in saying the habbolus plant could come out anytime. But there is usually some hints of a release of a new furni beforehand, and if not, then the furni thats been released wont have been given to anyone else before on habbo uk. There hasnt been any hints so far, so therefore i believe that it wont come out anytime soon.
    I recall Lost_Witness saying the Plant will come out, but not in the short time, so it is going to come out.

    Also a super isn't classed a super based on value, for example the Holopod is only 1.3 CS yet it's a super.

    I can assure you, if anyone fixed values they were fired.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I recall Lost_Witness saying the Plant will come out, but not in the short time, so it is going to come out.

    Also a super isn't classed a super based on value, for example the Holopod is only 1.3 CS yet it's a super.

    I can assure you, if anyone fixed values they were fired.
    Theres a thread in news and rumors saying a NEW rare is going to come out, meaning that a rare that hasnt been given to anyone before will be released. Ok, you recall him saying that, but that is going to take ages, a year or so maybe. That enough time for people to buy it cheap and sell it highly, and it should be a much higher price it is now, because of what ive repeated a few times, because there are very little of them, ill remind you : The rarer the item, the higher its value, and if you carefully read my other posts, this relationship isnt so for quite a few of the rares, meaning some values need changing.

    Habbox say they define a super as an item with a low quantity of them available, but thats what habbox think. Another, and a much better definition, is that a super is an item of furni where there is a very limited amount of them and are so, priced highly. You must of looked at the wrong page, because the holopod value is shown on the 'Normal Rares' page, and it deserves to be on there if it is that price, so even though some values need changing, there are some values that are correct by using the system the depo. use currently, but not all.

    Some of the senior staff in the department probably believe the values are correct. And it is difficult to find people who are fixing values and make them look reliable, and more measures should be made to pick out the liars.
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    lets just look at it this way

    Habbo is absolute crud, habbox rv's are corrupt, end of argument.

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    Lol @ that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diablo-Lou View Post
    lets just look at it this way

    Habbo is absolute crud, habbox rv's are corrupt, end of argument.
    That's a real valid arguement you put across there.. :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exelglug View Post
    Theres a thread in news and rumors saying a NEW rare is going to come out, meaning that a rare that hasnt been given to anyone before will be released. Ok, you recall him saying that, but that is going to take ages, a year or so maybe. That enough time for people to buy it cheap and sell it highly, and it should be a much higher price it is now, because of what ive repeated a few times, because there are very little of them, ill remind you : The rarer the item, the higher its value, and if you carefully read my other posts, this relationship isnt so for quite a few of the rares, meaning some values need changing.
    Have you ever tried to fill a room with speakers corner's?

    They're what, 1.5?

    You find one in over 50 trade rooms.

    Habbox put down what people are trading at, not what they wat people to be trading at. You sound bitter....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dajus View Post
    Have you ever tried to fill a room with speakers corner's?
    blackmaggot has over a room full :]!

    there are quite a lot around tho, i think its just nobody wants em rly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dajus View Post
    Have you ever tried to fill a room with speakers corner's?

    They're what, 1.5?

    You find one in over 50 trade rooms.

    Habbox put down what people are trading at, not what they wat people to be trading at. You sound bitter....
    Depends what size room your talking about

    If they are that price (presume in CS, you didnt give unit) and theres one in every 50 or so trade rooms, somethings gone very wrong.

    Dont you think i know that already? im saying that is not good practice if you read my other posts. Its not good just to give something a new value as soon as a trade happens, thats whats currently happening in the department. If they want to keep the system, then they have no right to call them 'Rare Values' because a value is not the same as price, which is what habbox are actually doing, putting a price on something based on what people are selling it for and if the number of successful trades at this price is common. The much more appropriate name henceforth should be 'Rare Prices', because that is what they actually are.


    Quote Originally Posted by eatcheese View Post
    blackmaggot has over a room full :]!

    there are quite a lot around tho, i think its just nobody wants em rly


    Ok, so we have one person saying theres alot around and one person saying theres not that many. Now what i am going to say is more of a theory than fact, but usually when something is at a low price, it may mean that there are more trades occuring involving the furni because more people can afford it. So if you say nobody wants them, then really the price should be increased slightly. Im not like saying over the price of a throne but just a gradual increase in price every so often, because a value increases of something when there are not many of them traded in the market, so its just like there is less supply of them on habbo.
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    Navy plastos are supers its just nobody wants to pay alot of furni for something ugly.

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