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    - Bupa covers this through Abortion. As my nearest private Hospital offers it

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    We already have MPs with that attitude, the only difference would be that i'm for the majority whereas they are always pandering to the minority.

    You have never provided any sources to me from memory in any debate, usually because when I say something for instance like 'Most British people want to leave the EU' and provide numerous polls for you on your request, you just steam roll right past them. Although you and the MPs I suppose share that same quality, the quality to be totally ignorant even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

    As for the private vs national its only a matter of time to those who are totally against private healthcare because we are (fact) heading for a demographic crisis that the NHS will not be able to survive. You are not denied health in the perfect system of private because the insurance would be compulsory for everyone to buy and it would also be illegal for the insurance companies to; a) raise the prices above a set price and b) turn anyone away.
    You aren't for the majority. The majority of the forum disagrees with you. Another reason why you shouldn't be MP as you think people agree with you when they really don't.

    Are you sure I have not provided any sources in any debates? Please reconsider that statement, I don't want to embarrass you by proving you wrong.

    Private health care would be compulsory for everyone to buy? Well just make it the normal tax and have the NHS ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    You aren't for the majority. The majority of the forum disagrees with you. Another reason why you shouldn't be MP as you think people agree with you when they really don't.

    Are you sure I have not provided any sources in any debates? Please reconsider that statement, I don't want to embarrass you by proving you wrong.

    Private health care would be compulsory for everyone to buy? Well just make it the normal tax and have the NHS ...
    Actually I oppose the last thing, and so do republicans. People should have a choice whether or not they want to have health care. Hence why it's being taken to courts, it may not be legal to force people to get health insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marriott0.02 View Post
    - Bupa covers this through Abortion. As my nearest private Hospital offers it
    Well it states on BUPA's website that they don't. You have already demonstrated that you know very little about the Health care thats on offer by the NHS and BUPA.



    Quote Originally Posted by marriott0.02 View Post
    Actually I oppose the last thing, and so do republicans. People should have a choice whether or not they want to have health care. Hence why it's being taken to courts, it may not be legal to force people to get health insurance.
    Its better to have health care than have no health care and get a huge bill if you get ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    You aren't for the majority. The majority of the forum disagrees with you. Another reason why you shouldn't be MP as you think people agree with you when they really don't.

    Are you sure I have not provided any sources in any debates? Please reconsider that statement, I don't want to embarrass you by proving you wrong.

    Private health care would be compulsory for everyone to buy? Well just make it the normal tax and have the NHS ...
    I am, various polls back that up and I think the only things I am in the minority for are devolution and the Trident renewal although i'm unsure exact figures on them at this time (2010). The 'majority' you mean by Rosie, yourself, alex and Tash who are the left wingers then yes you are right that I am the minority when it comes to you all although i'm quite proud of the fact that i'm on the majority side in most issues when it comes to the EU, death penalty, crime and punishment and taxation. I daresay there are more.

    Indeed it would be compulsory, the difference being that when you have a private industry it stays efficent to make money. The NHS does not have to do that and the main issue being that the NHS is under the thumb of the government and governments cannot run anything - that is solid fact. Take a look at pre-80s business and industry and it was all making a loss/was not efficent, privatisation made sure that the broken, useless parts were severed and that the companies did not have to be bailed out by the taxpayer year by year because of gross overspending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    Well it states on BUPA's website that they don't. You have already demonstrated that you know very little about the Health care thats on offer by the NHS and BUPA.

    and as per your other comment that "It's spelt offence in british english x American English it's offense"

    Well, you came here when you were 3 right? So you were probably taught British English. If you love America so much then go back there. I am sure your money might help their economy.



    Its better to have health care than have no health care and get a huge bill if you get ill.
    http://www.spirehealthcare.com/ - That's the private hospital company I use with my BUPA insurance. They offer it.

    And what if people don't want health care because they hardly use it, surely they should have the choice.

    Actually you spelt it offense

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    America's health care system had amazing health care? And America was the world's most powerful country, the biggest MEDC. So believe it or not you don't need FREE health care to be an MEDC. And the government should just let them die, no offence, if they contribute nothing to the country themselves. It's people's kindness that saves other people. And in Japan, you have to pay for certain things in their health care. And they have the best in the world!?
    *offense. Seriously, go ask for a refund on the private education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marriott0.02 View Post
    Actually I oppose the last thing, and so do republicans. People should have a choice whether or not they want to have health care. Hence why it's being taken to courts, it may not be legal to force people to get health insurance.
    Sorry to say, they may take it to court but the chances of anything happening is quite slim which has been expressed by other Amercians who do not like the idea of this bill.


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    I am, various polls back that up and I think the only things I am in the minority for are devolution and the Trident renewal although i'm unsure exact figures on them at this time (2010). The 'majority' you mean by Rosie, yourself, alex and Tash who are the left wingers then yes you are right that I am the minority when it comes to you all although i'm quite proud of the fact that i'm on the majority side in most issues when it comes to the EU, death penalty, crime and punishment and taxation. I daresay there are more.

    Indeed it would be compulsory, the difference being that when you have a private industry it stays efficent to make money. The NHS does not have to do that and the main issue being that the NHS is under the thumb of the government and governments cannot run anything - that is solid fact. Take a look at pre-80s business and industry and it was all making a loss/was not efficent, privatisation made sure that the broken, useless parts were severed and that the companies did not have to be bailed out by the taxpayer year by year because of gross overspending.
    Actually, look at any debate. There are more members opposing you rather than supporting you. What you support is a party who say what the hell they want because they know for a fact that they will never be in power. If people supported UKIP and their views, they would be in power after the next General Election. Thats not going to happen and we all know it. That only means you are in the minority and I am in the majority in comparison to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by marriott0.02 View Post
    http://www.spirehealthcare.com/ - That's the private hospital company I use with my BUPA insurance. They offer it.

    And what if people don't want health care because they hardly use it, surely they should have the choice.

    Actually you spelt it offense
    I realised I made a mistake in my last post hence I removed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattGarner View Post
    Sorry to say, they may take it to court but the chances of anything happening is quite slim which has been expressed by other Amercians who do not like the idea of this bill.
    Less than 50% of americans approve of the bill, surely for a country as democratic as America give the people a choice. I'm not the fascist, Obama is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marriott0.02 View Post
    Less than 50% of americans approve of the bill, surely for a country as democratic as America give the people a choice. I'm not the fascist, Obama is.
    Surely they could just point it to commerce clause? The Government can and will do everything and anything it sees fit.


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