if we're not allowed to mention certain sites

[Callum.]

I don't use this forum enough to know how it works, but surely mentioning the name on here isn't as serious as you're making out? Yeah, you've got young users, but so has Habbo and they mentioned it in this article: http://www.habbo.com/credits/furnitu...ay-temptations

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It does randomly Wootzeh.

@SkaterChu

Ryan, tbh there is not much to back it up there. We can't assume that Habbo know that there is porn on the site.
The way they are operating at the moment I would have grave doubts.

I had a warning last night - the first I have ever had for discussing with Alkaz what the first two weeks of University are like. The worst words I used were, drink, Medical, modules, ID, Doctor. The mind boggles at what's going on there! :S

I sat there for 5 mins refreshing and nothing came up. They wouldn't put 18+ catagories on the random images since it's what it says, 18+.

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The actual homepage displays no 18+ content though.

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[FlyingJesus]

Okay well it is this simple.

1. Member mentions site

2. Another member googles it ( this would happen 99% of the time)

3. This is what you get



4. Member presses Sexy Beautiful women and up comes graphic 18+ content(porn) with no warning.

The rules do not allow members to link to 18+ content.

So now anything with a dodgy Google link should be censored? Type in "college party" on Google and see what comes up. Type in "teen babysitter" and check out those results. Both of these things might come up in conversation on the forum because of the demographic, but I suppose it ought to not be allowed just in case someone decides to Google it and sees something graphic.

It does randomly Wootzeh.

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I feel like I'm repeating myself, not sure why...

Only if they've been posted incorrectly into the wrong sections (which is against their rules and wins you an instant ban), and going by such logic one could assume that no site with public posting access ought to be mentioned at all just in case someone puts the wrong sort of content on it against the will of the owners

[GommeInc]

So are porn websites. They normally have big messages saying If you are not the age 18 or then you are not permitted to enter blah blah blah. Which normally doesn't even contain any of the images/videos but we still don't allow them to be posted on the forum.

Again, they're PORN sites. This site isn't a PORN site. It has more non-18/non-adult content. So your point is invalid :/

Okay well it is this simple.

1. Member mentions site

2. Another member googles it ( this would happen 99% of the time)

3. This is what you get



4. Member presses Sexy Beautiful women and up comes graphic 18+ content(porn) with no warning.

The rules do not allow members to link to 18+ content.

Their problem, they went looking for it :/ It's not an 18+ site, YouTube is an 18+ site and so is DeviantART, using that logic :/

[Meanies]

Okay well it is this simple.

1. Member mentions site

2. Another member googles it ( this would happen 99% of the time)

3. This is what you get



4. Member presses Sexy Beautiful women and up comes graphic 18+ content(porn) with no warning.

The rules do not allow members to link to 18+ content.

in your example, the member isn't linking to anything because the other user googled it and it's their own doing as they obviously know sexy beautiful women is going to be some form of porn

[Catzsy]

So now anything with a dodgy Google link should be censored? Type in "college party" on Google and see what comes up. Type in "teen babysitter" and check out those results. Both of these things might come up in conversation on the forum because of the demographic, but I suppose it ought to not be allowed just in case someone decides to Google it and sees something graphic. feel like I'm repeating myself, not sure why...

But they wouldn't because a site has not been named. That is a bit nonsensical Tom for someone who usually has great logic. If a member said 'google' 'teen baby sitter' and it led to inappropriate images the same action would be taken. Some member did say google something I cannot remember what the other week and it showed up extremely gory and most inappropriate images. Action was therefore taken. It is only natural for members when somebody mentions a site for them to 'google' it.


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Again, they're PORN sites. This site isn't a PORN site. It has more non-18/non-adult content. So your point is invalid :/


Their problem, they went looking for it :/ It's not an 18+ site, YouTube is an 18+ site and so is DeviantART, using that logic :/

No it's not a porn site, Gomme, but it is a site with porn which you can access from google without a warning being given and the rules are quite specific about 18+ sexual material.

[GommeInc]

No it's not a porn site, Gomme, but it is a site with porn which you can access from google without a warning being given and the rules are quite specific about 18+ sexual material.

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Kinda obvious really, if I see a link to "Penises and Vaginas" I kinda expect to see penises and vaginas splashed around the screen like th last wash of a car :/ Clicking "Sexy Beautiful Women" is kinda obvious, so yeah you're not exactly being tricked into it. It's like any other website. Outright banning the name on the forum appears to have no full blown conclusion, and appears to be done on a whim. It will no doubt be removed once the realisation that it's not a porn site sinks in, and that most of what management have said makes no sense and has nearly (if all) been proven wrong.

And it's even mentioned on Habbo (as SkaterChu pointed out) :/ Bit strange they're mentioning a porn site (according to Oli and Matt) on Habbo :/

[Catzsy]

So now anything with a dodgy Google link should be censored? Type in "college party" on Google and see what comes up. Type in "teen babysitter" and check out those results. Both of these things might come up in conversation on the forum because of the demographic, but I suppose it ought to not be allowed just in case someone decides to Google it and sees something graphic.



I feel like I'm repeating myself, not sure why...

Again, they're PORN sites. This site isn't a PORN site. It has more non-18/non-adult content. So your point is invalid :/


Their problem, they went looking for it :/ It's not an 18+ site, YouTube is an 18+ site and so is DeviantART, using that logic :/

Kinda obvious really, if I see a link to "Penises and Vaginas" I kinda expect to see penises and vaginas splashed around the screen like th last wash of a car :/ Clicking "Sexy Beautiful Women" is kinda obvious, so yeah you're not exactly being tricked into it. It's like any other website. Outright banning the name on the forum appears to have no full blown conclusion, and appears to be done on a whim. It will no doubt be removed once the realisation that it's not a porn site sinks in, and that most of what management have said makes no sense and has nearly (if all) been proven wrong.

And it's even mentioned on Habbo (as SkaterChu pointed out) :/ Bit strange they're mentioning a porn site (according to Oli and Matt) on Habbo :/

Well as I said the way Habbo is at the moment they probably don't even know. I don't think Management have been proven wrong at all.

[xxMATTGxx]

I'm not saying 4 is a full on porn site, I just know there some is some right nasty and odd areas of that website.

[GommeInc]

Well as I said the way Habbo is at the moment they probably don't even know. I don't think Management have been proven wrong at all.

So are porn websites. They normally have big messages saying If you are not the age 18 or then you are not permitted to enter blah blah blah. Which normally doesn't even contain any of the images/videos but we still don't allow them to be posted on the forum.

^ It's not a porn site, so this post is irrelevant to discussion. It's what Habbox would be if it had an 18+ section. This post is wrong.

Yeah porn sites have that too, some porn sites don't even have any images on the first page, just a warning like that.

^ This post is similar to the above. It's not a porn site, it's a larger community which has an 18+ section. Why should the site suffer when the majority of its users and contents are not 18+ related? This post is proven wrong.

The problem is that the images can be on the front page - it is random. Sometimes they are and sometimes they are not but in any event the rules do say not to link to anything 18+ with sexual content so that's that really. It is a Habbo Fansite after all.

^ This post makes little sense. Should we block any website that's had a user post content in the wrong section? Any "unsafe work content" doesn't appear in the forum. It's similar to a member on this forum posting banned content and it appearing in latest posts. Like when Habbox had dirty images on it. 4-chan self-regulate, don't do it for them when the majority of the site is perfectly harmless.

there's a difference between sometimes having dodgy pictures and always having dodgy pictures, I just went on the site, clicked two links and saw a fully naked woman, it's not a very nice site for youngsters

^ He went looking for it. There's a difference. You also get greeted with a warning visiting any section of the site. This post is void and is again focusing on a small part of the 4-chan community. Again, why should we only focus on the 18+ side of 4-chan, when the majority is harmless and quite interesting? (link:http://boards.4chan.org/k/res/6774322#6774545) Is talking about world war II, but this is wrong because it's on a site that contains an 18+ section? Seems kinda pedantic to me :/

It's talked about in all areas of the media and in other communities like Habbo and the BBC. If they can, then so should we. Heck, the BBC don't allow abbreviations as they focus on mature debate (something we can't have as we're strictly a teen community so it;s best to focus on that area), yet they can mention 4-chan as it is just a large community with a large variety of different sections.

In short, I think you're suggesting you moderate children beyond the forum, when they can do that themselves. They'll only hear about it somewhere else IF they're told about and go looking for the dodgy content :/ Most of it that I've seen is fine, with the odd swear chucked in which will get the same treatment on here as with YouTube:

THIS VIDEO CONTAINS SWEARING...
THIS WEBSITE/LINK CONTAINS SWEARING... etc etc

Same logic as you get with the warning on 4-chan really :/

I'm not saying 4 is a full on porn site, I just know there some is some right nasty and odd areas of that website.

You said in your post "when you visit a porn site", seeing as this isn't a porn site it's kinda pointless