10.11.10 - Demolition.

[GommeInc]

lol so ridiculous.
you were NOT there, and the media are exaggerating.

maybe they can use the 9k to fix their windows?

i left far before anyone got hurt, so jog the **** on yeh?

You kinda proved his point and I am trying to figure out if you're acting or generally reflecting the over all view of the students who went to the protests - destructive and rude thugs. Your language and attitude give it away.

Those office staff in the Tory Headquarters are doing their jobs, it isn't their fault the party they represent on a ground floor level are not in the best light with regards to students and threatening them just makes matters worse, and there are so many videos and pictures of the protests, from people who I can assure you are nothing to do with the media, just shows you that some students probably should stay clear from high education as they lack the educational pre-requisites - that is to say, they prefer to lash out with little understanding and show lack of rational thought when it comes to the real world. Yes, there were peaceful protests, but these thugs ruin it for the majority, especially when they do not appear to be that much of a minority. Then you get the damage to public property (which includes grafiti) which is far from useful.

So yes, maybe you should rethink your options. No offense.

[Hecktix]

It's an awful shame that the demo turned violent however I can't say I'm not surprised. I am very pleased to see that the Met. Police Commissioner and the Prime Minister have said that there were not enough police on the streets.

225 officers were assigned to a protest which 90% of UK university unions were taking students down, it was always going to be a big demonstration with tens of thousands of students, we said from the start we thought there would be 50,000 due to the interest generated and we were right.

To only provide 225 police officers, as the Commissioner said, is an embarassment.

[Grig]

It's all part of the problem with the Coalition government. You get the Lib Dems standing for one thing and the Tories standing for another. The ideologies are quite contrasting, so really for the Lib Dems. this is not good at all. I actually see Labour becoming stronger after such events. They say it is about the 'balance', so it is tricky on what to deliberate increases on to decrease national debt.

As for the demonstrations, well angry students are never a good thing and I knew there would be those who would go riot. It was pre-expected, so I don't think how the commissioner for one of the best police forces in the world couldn't see it. They were lucky to have actually been able to stop them, it could have gone on for far longer and turned far more violent, even causing deaths.

In the positive, students have now captured the media attention of their plight, so changes may be made to the initial fee hikes proposed. But, that could mean it being transfered to other sectors and they'll get angry- it's a very delicate balance that needs careful consideration.

[Jordy]

I went too, and I just want to stress how the VAST MAJORITY were peaceful. I went past Tory HQ before the real trouble kicked off. Yeah there were people trying to get into the building but tbh most people standing outside were just chanting "tory scum". The overall mood I got from my day was yeah, **** the tories, but everyone was pretty upbeat and friendly.


And jake, there were loooaaaads of fit boys actually.


Plus I'm going to be on asain TV woooo

So you all blame the Tories yet it was the Lib Dems who made the ridiculous pledge to get rid of tuition fees and are a partner in the coalition?

I read a very good article about this in The Times today (Page 2) which I recommend reading, I'll copy/paste a few extracts from the website seeing as it's now a pay-site.

Yesterday a group of students struck a blow. But they did not strike a blow for freedom, or for democracy, or for fairness. They just struck a blow. And shattered some glass. In the process they proved nothing, and persuaded nobody.

The economics of tuition fees are simple. As access to university rises, the bill to pay for universities rises. Someone has to pay this bill. Should it be those who benefit directly from a university education? Or should it be paid by everyone, including those who choose not to go to university or do not get the opportunity to do so?

In fact, it could be argued that yesterday’s protesters were being generous. Under current proposals it is not they who will have to pay increased fees, but the students who follow them. Any alternative would, presumably, require the protestors to chip in. Sadly, however, their true position is not one of generosity. It is one of naivety — that somehow the education will arrive without an invoice to pay.

So far, so tiresome. However, the students have more of a point when they protest against the activities of the Liberal Democrats. Nick Clegg allowed his party to adopt a profoundly unrealistic policy before the election and made promises he neither could nor should keep. It is right that the Lib Dems should pay a political price for their ludicrous posturing. And it is understandable that the inability of Mr Clegg’s party to keep his ridiculous pledge has provoked frustration and led to protest. But the fact that the broken windows were outside Conservative Party headquarters suggests that logic chopping with the Lib Dems was not really the aim of the violence.

This coalition is unlikely to be galvanised by infantile leftists prancing about hitting policemen.

Probably, however, the protesters do not really care about forming coalitions and formulating alternatives. They just wanted to run around in front of the television cameras saying: “Look at me, aren’t I clever?” No, not really.

[AgnesIO]

lol so ridiculous.
you were NOT there, and the media are exaggerating.

maybe they can use the 9k to fix their windows?

i left far before anyone got hurt, so jog the **** on yeh?

The rude attitude you have put across in this post suggests what an unsecure person you must be. If you think people being scared for their lives is funny, then may I wish you all the worst.

[Mathew]

Love the guy's face in the final second. Stupid ***** doesn't understand the concept or safety glass.

You kinda proved his point and I am trying to figure out if you're acting or generally reflecting the over all view of the students who went to the protests - destructive and rude thugs. Your language and attitude give it away.

Those office staff in the Tory Headquarters are doing their jobs, it isn't their fault the party they represent on a ground floor level are not in the best light with regards to students and threatening them just makes matters worse, and there are so many videos and pictures of the protests, from people who I can assure you are nothing to do with the media, just shows you that some students probably should stay clear from high education as they lack the educational pre-requisites - that is to say, they prefer to lash out with little understanding and show lack of rational thought when it comes to the real world. Yes, there were peaceful protests, but these thugs ruin it for the majority, especially when they do not appear to be that much of a minority. Then you get the damage to public property (which includes grafiti) which is far from useful.

So yes, maybe you should rethink your options. No offense.

Agree fully, +rep.

So you all blame the Tories yet it was the Lib Dems who made the ridiculous pledge to get rid of tuition fees and are a partner in the coalition?

I read a very good article about this in The Times today (Page 2) which I recommend reading, I'll copy/paste a few extracts from the website seeing as it's now a pay-site.

Ah I read this in my free period, along with the double page spread further on. Such an embarassment for the police!

[beth]

The rude attitude you have put across in this post suggests what an unsecure person you must be. If you think people being scared for their lives is funny, then may I wish you all the worst.

LOL unsecure? surely you mean insecure; i don't have a rude attitude.

i'm merely stating my opinions.

and yeah you know what, i would rather turn up to a protest, cause a bit of damage then sitting on my arse at home complaining about the world is and then doing nothing to change it.

i was at millbank from the start of the fire til about 6pm, which is when it all went too far. the fire should have been put out IMMEDIATELY. there were aerosols on there, which are dangerous as a start. the police watched from a distance...

[Niall!]

Get over it, earn some money or get a loan. We can't go on being spoonfed by the government

Says the teenage boy being spoonfed by his rich family.

[AgnesIO]

LOL unsecure? surely you mean insecure; i don't have a rude attitude.

i'm merely stating my opinions.

and yeah you know what, i would rather turn up to a protest, cause a bit of damage then sitting on my arse at home complaining about the world is and then doing nothing to change it.

i was at millbank from the start of the fire til about 6pm, which is when it all went too far. the fire should have been put out IMMEDIATELY. there were aerosols on there, which are dangerous as a start. the police watched from a distance...

How dare I miss type a word. I should be banned?

Would you like your house to be smashed up? I mean I would rather thieves smashed up peoples homes than sit on their arses on benefits. Oh wait.

[Conservative,]

i went! it was ******* immense. bit dangerous, we stayed until riot police moved us.
ahaha it was awesome to see the tory staff **** themselves

aaaahhhh get involved!

*REMOVED* You may not like their party but finding it funny that desk workers are suddenly surrounded bust cruel, thugs like you, who only want to cause destruction, is not in the least bit funny. They're doing their job. It's like environmentalists going and attacking a BP petrol station for the oil spill back in April - they are small people doing a small job.

I think these actions were so disgustingly violent and unneeded. The reforms are for the better if you cannot see that then you're blind.

I hope everyone out of those who got violent has their house smashed in or their dorm raided when they go to uni cos it's ******* bull**** what they did.


I'm, as everyone else, not the happiest of bunnies due to the cost - well get a ******* decent degree and don't **** up your education? Then you can pay the ******* debts off. I don't give a **** because I'm going to get a good job, i'm going to make the most of my education.

The morons protesting and causing chaos yesterday are the ones who won't be able to afford Uni because they'll be working in McDonalds for the rest of their lives.

Edited by Hecktix (Assistant General Manager): Please don't be rude to other member