General Discussion

[Neversoft]

If he made the canon from the materials of the train then where did the gunpowder come from?

[Axel]

I'm not sure of the exact materials for making a cannon and the exact materials of the train they're riding, but it's meant to be equivalent exchange, the precise exact details don't matter if you just watch it without being so critical.

[Neversoft]

I'm only critical when watching Hollywood movies, anime isn't suppost to make sense. Seeing as how I haven't seen much of the series and a couple of things myself and Robald have pointed out concerning equivalent exchange don't really make sense, I was just hoping you would be able to fill me in.

[Southe,]

dsent have to make perfect sense and im sure they explain it someway and Ed dosent need to follow the rules of exchange or is only he dosent need to make a circle cant remember still good series. which reminds me need to watch last few eps of brotherhood.

[Neversoft]

Well naturally if you're going to introduce something like equivalent exchange it should make sense. Things like Spiral Power are the exception to the rule.

[Black_Apalachi]

Ah god, I'm not gonna go through every single episode to look for these clips, but I remember the train one - he made the cannon from the materials of the train.

I'm not asking how he makes things, I'm asking about what he "gives back" in order to settle the equivalent exchange.

Well naturally if you're going to introduce something like equivalent exchange it should make sense. Things like Spiral Power are the exception to the rule.

Exactly. I'm not being overly-critical. He goes on about all the bad people using alchemy without following the law of equivalent exchange, yet I don't ever see how he gives something. At first I thought maybe it's why people keep dying... I mean how else can you "give" other than someone or something who matters to you dying?

And it's the circle he doesn't need. He still should have to follow the law of equivalent exchange.

Have you guys actually watched it and not thought this? :S

[Nemo]

I'm not asking how he makes things, I'm asking about what he "gives back" in order to settle the equivalent exchange.



Exactly. I'm not being overly-critical. He goes on about all the bad people using alchemy without following the law of equivalent exchange, yet I don't ever see how he gives something. At first I thought maybe it's why people keep dying... I mean how else can you "give" other than someone or something who matters to you dying?

And it's the circle he doesn't need. He still should have to follow the law of equivalent exchange.

Have you guys actually watched it and not thought this? :S

He's not paying back something, he's destroying something and recreating it. Watch brotherhood n you'll understand.

[Black_Apalachi]

He's not paying back something, he's destroying something and recreating it. Watch brotherhood n you'll understand.

I understand when he makes things out of other things, (fix radio, cannon, turns falling rocks into petals etc), but in the example of giving the girls flowers he just drew a circle and made them out of nothing. I can't think of any more examples but I'm confident there are others.

Also, there's been quite a few bad people so far who ignore the rule of equivalent exchange but nothing happens to them or the world for ignoring it.

[Neversoft]

He's not paying back something, he's destroying something and recreating it. Watch brotherhood n you'll understand.

Isn't the rule of Equivalent Exchange that to create something you must give something of equal value. Are you saying that when they tried to resurrect their mother they first destroyed her so they could recreate her later?

[Nemo]

I understand when he makes things out of other things, (fix radio, cannon, turns falling rocks into petals etc), but in the example of giving the girls flowers he just drew a circle and made them out of nothing. I can't think of any more examples but I'm confident there are others.

Also, there's been quite a few bad people so far who ignore the rule of equivalent exchange but nothing happens to them or the world for ignoring it.

Show me a clip of the flowers, either just a mistake or something logical behind it


@chris. No, the materials to the final product are recreated.

EG.

Have a piece of mud.

Mud is destroyed
Mud is created
Mud is in the final form (eg. a hut)