About sending BAD reputation points:

[Biseinen]

Are any Bad reputations points valid? Because all they seem to be is removed from peoples CP's because they don't want them there. The reputation system is built on a user based opinion.

Don't understand? Let me explain:

Good post/Good picture/Good Alteration/Funny Comment = POSITIVE REPUTATION

Bad post/Bad picture/Bad Alteration/Racist/adusive comments = NEGATIVE REPTUATION

That is what it should be used for because it is about a person opinion on the other persons good or bad post.

You see a bad post, (IT'S YOUR OPINION) The bad rep is given to the person who posted and it is a VALID rep.

But thats not how it is at the moment, it's: See a bad post, give a bad rep, the user complains because he doesn't want it, he gets it removed just because it's there.

How can you even have the reputation system if they are just taken away like that. There are some exceptions where they should be removed. No comments, abusive comment, swearing and anything else rude.

Sorry, rant over. xD

[Craig]

I agree with you although there are some exceptions for like stupid/pointless bad reps and other reasons.

[Biseinen]

There are some exceptions where they should be removed. No comments, abusive comment, swearing and anything else rude.

Yup, [Points to quote] said that. =P I'm sick of users complaining when I send them bad rep's because of their bad posts and then they just find a random post of mine and bad rep it back saying something stupid like "Returning your bad rep" "Don't bad rep me for my post". [Rolls eyes]

[Craig]

I usually send bad rep but get a random one back aswell where they make up a cruppy excuse "/

[brandon]

yeah I get a load of revenge reps, funny that I don't get bad repped if I don't bad rep them first though :rolleyes:

[Oracle:]

I agree. For example I have a bad-rep for a clearly immature post which I was annoyed at but it's correct therfore I don't ask for it to be removed. Personally I believe the admin team should be more selective with what reputation they move, and also positive pointless rep should be removed as well.

[ReviewDude]

I tend to, as a rule, good rep all truly outstanding/really funny posts, and negative rep all rule-breaking, spamming or stupid posts. However, negative rep for a differing opinion, as revenge or for a bad alteration is just immature.

[-Paul]

Im one of the few people who remove pointless rep and iknow for one if i see a vaild red rep it stays there.

[Biseinen]

I tend to, as a rule, good rep all truly outstanding/really funny posts, and negative rep all rule-breaking, spamming or stupid posts. However, negative rep for a differing opinion, as revenge or for a bad alteration is just immature.

Good post, good rep, bad post bad rep.

Good alt, good rep, bad alt, bad rep. Whats the difference? You reward good for good. Why not bad for bad?

[Ekalb]

Well if your going to bad rep everyone who has done a bad alteration in your mind then you are crazy and low. It's not like they did it to deliberately get at you.
Just because they aren't good enough and up to your standards doesn't mean they should suffer the concequences. Just give them CC and leave it. It's hardly going to help them improve.
Edit:
I see valid bad rep in the alterations forum if it is given for stealing alterations and making them to insult people and they shouldnt get removed. Not if somone makes an alteration because they are new to it or just had trouble or you set your standards to high. I find those as pointless.
But it would seem that Barkseh does support bad rep for alterations that aren't good enough for your standards.
So in reality that could mean I could bad rep every alt creator in the elites simply because their alts aren't up to 'my standards' and get away with it..
Edit 2) Still adding to this post.
If someone bad repped me for my alteration not being up to their standards I would see me bad repping them for their unfair comment valid.

[PWF]

Cpt.kewl first of all it is pretty lame to call yourself cpt.kewl because your not 'kewl' infact ur the complete oposite!

secondly they didnt mean if they disliked it they ment if it was offensive which is BAD therefore a BAD ALT

[Ekalb]

Cpt.kewl first of all it is pretty lame to call yourself cpt.kewl because your not 'kewl' infact ur the complete oposite!

secondly they didnt mean if they disliked it they ment if it was offensive which is BAD therefore a BAD ALT
PWF, you don't know me at all.
I was bad repped for my alt not being up to somones standard.
You obviously don't know and are in nowhere near the right place to comment.
and I am saying bad repping for alterations thats are not up to somones standards is pointless. It's hardly going to help and is hardly fair.
If the alt was delberately insulting somone I would see the rep as valid but not just because it isn't good enough.
Some people in this thread are basicly saying 75% of the artists on habbox should be bad repped including anybody who is new to these techniques.

[brandon]

Cpt.kewl first of all it is pretty lame to call yourself cpt.kewl because your not 'kewl' infact ur the complete oposite!

secondly they didnt mean if they disliked it they ment if it was offensive which is BAD therefore a BAD ALT
yes because the alterations manager posts offensive alts doesn't he :rolleyes:

[PWF]

PWF, you don't know me at all.
I was bad repped for my alt not being up to somones standard.
You obviously don't know and are in nowhere near the right place to comment.
and I am saying bad repping for alterations thats are not up to somones standards is pointless. It's hardly going to help and is hardly fair.
If the alt was delberately insulting somone I would see the rep as valid but not just because it isn't good enough.
Some people in this thread are basicly saying 75% of the artists on habbox should be bad repped including anybody who is new to these techniques.
yes i do
and what do you mean i am not in the right place to comment?
because im a newbie

yes because the alterations manager posts offensive alts doesn't he :rolleyes:
what?

[Ekalb]

yes i do
and what do you mean i am not in the right place to comment?
because im a newbie

Because you don't know me and part of what you were talking about you'd only know if you were one of two other people.

[PWF]

Because you don't know me and part of what you were talking about you'd only know if you were one of two other people.
which part

[Ekalb]

which part
The second part where you weren't paying me out.
I may have mis interpreted it as you saying something about me getting bad rep for an alt that offended somone which isnt true.
I think we are kind of getting a bit off track. If you have something to say to me that isnt related to the thread please pm me it.
I've stated my opinion and it would appear some disagree with it.

[nvrspk4]

Im one of the few people who remove pointless rep and iknow for one if i see a vaild red rep it stays there.

Yeah mostly I do it but when I'm away Barkseh does take care of it. We do not just remove reputation because its reported. I look at the comment and post and make my decision. Many times, atleast a few times each time I go through them I leave one or two reps that were valid and PM the users explaining why. So we do check. However revenge reps and all are not allowed so report those and they'll be dealt with. If they do come up with a valid reason we can't do anything however. And lets not start an argument please ;)

[Ekalb]

Yeah mostly I do it but when I'm away Barkseh does take care of it. We do not just remove reputation because its reported. I look at the comment and post and make my decision. Many times, atleast a few times each time I go through them I leave one or two reps that were valid and PM the users explaining why. So we do check. However revenge reps and all are not allowed so report those and they'll be dealt with. If they do come up with a valid reason we can't do anything however. And lets not start an argument please ;)
What if, hypothetically, A user was bad repped for their alteration not being up to someone elses standards just because they were new to the techniques, couldn't the user bad rep the other rep giver for the action of cruelty?

[-Paul]

What if, hypothetically, A user was bad repped for their alteration not being up to someone elses standards just because they were new to the techniques, couldn't the user bad rep the other rep giver for the action of cruelty?

Then the rep would be removed - That is not a reason to bad rep somone.

[nvrspk4]

What if, hypothetically, A user was bad repped for their alteration not being up to someone elses standards just because they were new to the techniques, couldn't the user bad rep the other rep giver for the action of cruelty?

I dunno about the first bad rep but the revenge rep is innapropriate.

[Ekalb]

I dunno about the first bad rep but the revenge rep is innapropriate.
The 'revenge rep' though is just the same as somone being bad repped for insulting somone though or putting them down.


Then the rep would be removed - That is not a reason to bad rep somone.

What one - the first or the second? I find the first to be uncalled for and perhaps cruel but if someone was being cruel to another on the forum the second bad rep would be justified..

[Biseinen]

The 'revenge rep' though is just the same as somone being bad repped for insulting somone though or putting them down.



What one - the first or the second? I find the first to be uncalled for and perhaps cruel but if someone was being cruel to another on the forum the second bad rep would be justified..

No, the revenge rep is just to get them back for giving them a bad rep. Not for a valid reason like I've said.

The 'hypothetical' question you posted is VALID. Stop trying to prove you're right because you are not. The reputation system is opinion based. So how can you retract a bad opinion?

[BL!NKEY]

I have never bad repped someone because its not fun when you get a bad rep and i dont want to make someone feel bad.

I hate it when someone posts a bad alt and people go like bad rep you could have done better

because its not like they wasted your life by looking at it.

The only way I see bad rep would do good is if someone obviously made a new accont to just go around the forum and post stupid stuff because they are board.

If someone is just posting some thing that might be offensive or racist I dont see why you should bad rep them.

I know its bad to be offensive but its usually a joke and we need to know that the people making the joke are not actually going to go up to some like retarted person and make fun of them.

I think stereotype jokes are funny but its not like I would tell them to the people who are the stereotype.

So if anyone who cares abuot their rep gets a bad rep then they will get it removed usually and if they dont care then it doesnt teach the person anything.