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Steven.
11-08-2006, 09:24 PM
A SCHOOLGIRL of 11 hanged herself after her mother refused to let her watch Big Brother.


Yasmin Browder used her dressing gown belt to make a noose after being sent to bed for misbehaving.


Mother Jill Morey, 38, told an inquest that Yasmin lost her temper after an argument about decorating her bedroom.


Jill, a care worker from Shoreham, West Sussex, said: “She said, ‘I want to watch Big Brother’. I said, ‘You are not’.


“She went to the bathroom, where I thought she was having a shower.”


The inquest in Worthing heard the bathroom door was forced after 45 minutes by Jill’s boyfriend, Mark Webb.


The distraught mum said: “The belt was around Yasmin’s neck and she was unconscious. I was hysterical. I tried to resuscitate her three times, trying all I could.”
Yasmin was taken to Worthing Hospital but died 40 minutes later.


The inquest heard that Yasmin had been on “cloud nine” after a weekend with her father Paul Rayment-Browder, 42, and her “strop” was out of character.


Coroner Roger Stone recorded an open verdict, adding: “This was an impulsive gesture which went horribly wrong.”


http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2006370321,00.jpg

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006370150,00.html

ilovejordan
11-08-2006, 09:25 PM
I saw that. Its so sad :(

Offspring
11-08-2006, 09:27 PM
Hanged herself because she couldnt watch big brother ? :s
That is like well pathetic ? :rolleyes:
But i spose if she felt that way then yeh it makes sence

Callum.
11-08-2006, 09:28 PM
Thats sad =[.

Azul
11-08-2006, 09:29 PM
Ahaha, how utterly utterly pathetic. No sympthay from me, i'm sorry.

ross
11-08-2006, 09:29 PM
Aw. That's sad.:'(

alexxxxx
11-08-2006, 09:29 PM
That's sad. In both ways. =[

Little Brat who didn't know what she was doing.

Grindie
11-08-2006, 09:30 PM
Damn, her parents must feel sorry.

MsTanya
11-08-2006, 09:30 PM
sad and that yeah? but it is abit stupid

Victimized
11-08-2006, 09:32 PM
I don't feel sad for her atall.
She hung herself could she couldn't get her own way?!
What a spoilt little brat.

MsTanya
11-08-2006, 09:33 PM
I don't feel sad for her atall.
She hung herself could she couldn't get her own way?!
What a spoilt little brat.
exactly !

im sad for her parents like

Azul
11-08-2006, 09:34 PM
i'm not, they raised the moron.

Victimized
11-08-2006, 09:34 PM
Yeah me too, but she must always get her own way so in a sense it's their fault too.

jordybumz!
11-08-2006, 09:35 PM
i lol'd.

alexxxxx
11-08-2006, 09:36 PM
i lol'd.

You Incosiderate being :P

Yeah, it is her fault. If her life depends on Big Brother, she really must have had some problems.

Wayne
11-08-2006, 09:38 PM
If she killed herself all because she couldn't watch a TV programme, that's a bit pointless. Besides, she seems a bit spoilt, as others have said. R.I.P though.

MsTanya
11-08-2006, 09:39 PM
i know what youre saying, but losing a child to something as ridiculous as this?

DJ-Ali
11-08-2006, 09:40 PM
No offense to anyone, but I thinks she must be the stupidest girl on the planet. She couldn't watch Big Brother? Tough luck! It's life! But wasting your own life just because of a T.V show? It's just pathetic! Blame me if you may...

R.I.P Yasmin Browder

Victimized
11-08-2006, 09:41 PM
No offense to anyone, but I thinks she must be the stupidest girl on the planet. She couldn't watch Big Brother? Tough luck! It's life! But wasting your own life just because of a T.V show? It's just pathetic! Blame me if you may...

R.I.P Yasmin Browder

Agreed.

Danny
11-08-2006, 11:18 PM
:o She hung herself cos she couldn't watch Big Brother.... imagine what she'd have been like when Big Brother actually finishes next week... :( And she didn't even get to find out who won.

Drugs
11-08-2006, 11:29 PM
Exactly, but i still think she deserves to live again.

Aeon
11-08-2006, 11:33 PM
You have to think "Why?" because who would want to watch big brother? (Only my opinion)

But you have to feel sorry for the mother, she must hate herself ....

Insanity
11-08-2006, 11:35 PM
She more then likely was seeking attention and could of slipped and done it by accident, i very much doubt that someone in any mental state would commit suicide over a boring tv programe. she would of been waiting till she heard her perant then done it so they found her before she died so they would feel bad and buy her lots of gifts.. It's the way every childs mind works.

R.I.P~<3~

JonJon
11-08-2006, 11:39 PM
The only sad thing is she hung herself because she couldn't watch Big Brother....

Clarissaa
11-08-2006, 11:40 PM
she must of had some issues to do that anyway, couldnt have just been cause she couldnt watch big brother, that would just be sad..

anyway r.i.p.

i luv rosie
11-08-2006, 11:42 PM
its one of those things children do to get attention, such as going up to your mom, asking for an example of $100, mom says no, so the child says she will hold her breath so she dies, even though she won't die from holding her breath till she passes out.

its one of those things that she did cause she probably wanted more attention, for a very idiodic reason.

simon!
11-08-2006, 11:47 PM
I don't feel sad for her atall.
She hung herself could she couldn't get her own way?!
What a spoilt little brat.

Sorry to say this gang but this kid is totally correct, she misses one night of Big Brother so she hangs herself when she could easily ask what happened from like every kid in the school. She didn't miss much anyway, just Aisleyne having the odd cry and annoying screech of what she calls a laugh!

Eamonn
12-08-2006, 12:06 AM
Read that in the Daily Mirror , a bit shocking over BB , I never knew people could get so obsessive.

JonJon
12-08-2006, 12:51 AM
Ye, I don't have any sympathy, it's selfish to kill yourself because you couldn't watch BB.

sarey
12-08-2006, 02:28 AM
Well, it is overall pathetic and stupid to kill yourself just because you cant watch a fricken programe, i mean c'mon, i was banned from the tv for a week before, AM I DEAD? nop. GOODDDDD spoilt brat sydrome!

Nevertheless, R.I.P.
She probably DID have some mental/physcological problems, she wouldnt just kill herself over that.

JonJon
12-08-2006, 02:34 AM
Maybe not, maybe she was just stupid?

There was another thing like this where a kid committed suicide because he couldn't get tickets to watch I think Manchester United play.

Like wdf, why not watch it on TV rather than killing yourself?

Drewar
12-08-2006, 02:35 AM
R.I.P. Little Girl.

I think it's wrong of you to say such stupid comments without hearing the whole story. The girl could of been abused in the past etc, and you have NO idea what she could of been going through all these years. Who knows.. maybe her parents have always abused her (physically or verbally) and this was the thing that just sent her "over the top".

Anyway, is it just me or does that picture supplied in the original post look like Nikki from BB at a younger age?

JonJon
12-08-2006, 02:39 AM
I've heard you don't see much Big Brother because you're Canadian, but still, that looks nothing like Nikki except for the hair colour.

sarey
12-08-2006, 02:41 AM
R.I.P. Little Girl.

I think it's wrong of you to say such stupid comments without hearing the whole story. The girl could of been abused in the past etc, and you have NO idea what she could of been going through all these years. Who knows.. maybe her parents have always abused her (physically or verbally) and this was the thing that just sent her "over the top".

Anyway, is it just me or does that picture supplied in the original post look like Nikki from BB at a younger age?

Yes we dont, but it was straight after being banned from watching BB.

I don't think she killed herself because of just that, if she did, spoilt brat.
She probably was either abused mentally, physically or verbally, physcological problems, mental health problems or some sort of past which was traumatic, if not, then she is just stupid for wasting her life over a tv show.

Hanging yourself is painful too, you arnt just cutting the oxygeon off, you're breaking your neck.

superstar911
12-08-2006, 07:32 AM
i read dat in da paper coming home on da airplane yday

its not realli bb news

benjirofl
12-08-2006, 08:07 AM
God thts bad. jus coz she cudnt watch big brother pfft.

see.no.evil
12-08-2006, 08:13 AM
thats stupid and weird

Nixt
12-08-2006, 08:17 AM
thats stupid and weird

Both.

Am I the only one here thinking that alot of you have forgotten that a little girl has died.

benjirofl
12-08-2006, 08:18 AM
Am I the only one here thinking that alot of you have forgotten that a little girl has died.


True ;'[/ its sad just silly why she'd take her life, how must her mom feel who wouldn't let her watch big brother?

Nixt
12-08-2006, 08:22 AM
how must her mom feel who wouldn't let her watch big brother?

I doubt anyone can imagine. It must be horrible, that doesn't even do it justice though.

edible
12-08-2006, 10:48 AM
I don't feel sad for her atall.
She hung herself could she couldn't get her own way?!
What a spoilt little brat.


She probably got it off stupid people, even i wouldnt hang myself over a tv show. It's pathetic, but RIP.

?!?jAy2k6!?!
12-08-2006, 10:50 AM
Fake .

edible
12-08-2006, 10:53 AM
They wouldnt put it in a paper if it wasnt real.

Frodo13.
12-08-2006, 11:20 AM
Its been in 2 newspapers... So it is real.

brandon
12-08-2006, 11:22 AM
I read about that, pretty stupid but I feel sorry for there parents none the less. RIP.

awesomedude2939
12-08-2006, 11:23 AM
what a cheky minx

Jinxey
12-08-2006, 11:31 AM
How selfish can you get, i feel sorry for her family.

Nixt
12-08-2006, 11:35 AM
what a cheky minx

You really are sick aren't you?

Eamonn
12-08-2006, 12:19 PM
You really are sick aren't you?

So everyone else calls her stupid , selfish ect.. and he calls her a cheeky minx and you find that sick ''/

Wolfie
12-08-2006, 12:39 PM
I read that in paper. That is really Sad :(

Infrontation
12-08-2006, 12:40 PM
I don't feel sad for her atall.
She hung herself could she couldn't get her own way?!
What a spoilt little brat.
Same tbh..

jaso321
12-08-2006, 12:40 PM
Maybe it was more complex, maybe she had rough times before and not being allowed to watch BB was the final straw....

Victimized
12-08-2006, 12:41 PM
I don't feel sad for her atall.
She hung herself could she couldn't get her own way?!
What a spoilt little brat.

Removed!

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Seatherny
12-08-2006, 12:42 PM
Spoilt brat but I feel sorry for her family

Frodo13.
12-08-2006, 12:46 PM
That girl obviously wasn't thinking straight...which is a shame, because killing yourself over a TV show is so unnecciary. I feel sorry for her parents, and I don't think they should feel sorry, as this was just a form of rebelion that went horribly wrong. I bet when she was well...being strangled, I bet she tried her hardest to get out of it.


RIP - Such a shame to lose a life over something so unnessicary.

?!?jAy2k6!?!
12-08-2006, 12:47 PM
Spoilt brat but I feel sorry for her family
My dad says brat is swearing - INFRACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Error (Forum Moderator) - Please don't make a pointless post!

sarey
12-08-2006, 01:22 PM
That girl obviously wasn't thinking straight...which is a shame, because killing yourself over a TV show is so unnecciary. I feel sorry for her parents, and I don't think they should feel sorry, as this was just a form of rebelion that went horribly wrong. I bet when she was well...being strangled, I bet she tried her hardest to get out of it.


RIP - Such a shame to lose a life over something so unnessicary.


She probably did, at the last second, she probably rethought her actions, either way, if it was done because of the past, or because of a tv show, its still horrifying for the parents, and selfish too, but R.I.P.

uber
12-08-2006, 06:06 PM
Pretty sad.
Although knowing the sun they probably made it up to fill space.

cocaine
12-08-2006, 07:08 PM
Not disrespecting or anything, but why hang yourself if you can't watch BB?

i'm klkl
12-08-2006, 07:31 PM
Ahaha, how utterly utterly pathetic. No sympthay from me, i'm sorry.

what he said.

sympathy to her parents yeah, but not for her.

Markness.
12-08-2006, 08:02 PM
A SCHOOLGIRL of 11 hanged herself after her mother refused to let her watch Big Brother.


Yasmin Browder used her dressing gown belt to make a noose after being sent to bed for misbehaving.


Mother Jill Morey, 38, told an inquest that Yasmin lost her temper after an argument about decorating her bedroom.


Jill, a care worker from Shoreham, West Sussex, said: “She said, ‘I want to watch Big Brother’. I said, ‘You are not’.


“She went to the bathroom, where I thought she was having a shower.”


The inquest in Worthing heard the bathroom door was forced after 45 minutes by Jill’s boyfriend, Mark Webb.


The distraught mum said: “The belt was around Yasmin’s neck and she was unconscious. I was hysterical. I tried to resuscitate her three times, trying all I could.”
Yasmin was taken to Worthing Hospital but died 40 minutes later.


The inquest heard that Yasmin had been on “cloud nine” after a weekend with her father Paul Rayment-Browder, 42, and her “strop” was out of character.


Coroner Roger Stone recorded an open verdict, adding: “This was an impulsive gesture which went horribly wrong.”

THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING MORE TO THIS, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE BITS WHICH I THINK MEAN SOMETHING

ALSO, SHE DIDN'T KILL HERSELF BECAUSE SHE WASNT ALLOWED TO WATCH BIG BROTHER

Josh-H
12-08-2006, 08:37 PM
Tragic but very silly, a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Steven.
12-08-2006, 08:53 PM
Pretty sad.
Although knowing the sun they probably made it up to fill space.

Anyone making stuff up like this is very sick... :|

deltateamaplha
12-08-2006, 09:16 PM
Aww guys give her a break she is only 11! How dare people post she is stupid e.c.t :(

-:Undertaker:-
12-08-2006, 09:18 PM
Anyone making stuff up like this is very sick... :|


The Sun made it up that Scousers were robbing the dead at Hillsbough.

Although, If its true I have no sympathy.

sarey
12-08-2006, 09:28 PM
Aww guys give her a break she is only 11! How dare people post she is stupid e.c.t :(


Its the reason why she did it.
Think how her parents feel :/

awesomedudebro
12-08-2006, 09:45 PM
the lord said suicide is wrong so I think I have to side with him :(:(

she is very naughty and does not deserve sympathy :@

i hope her parents get thru d tuff times ahed i wil visit them mabye probably not but il not visit her grave cos she is prety cheky :(

sarey
13-08-2006, 01:20 AM
Suicide is a sin now?
Not from what ive researched up around other sites.

Eamonn
13-08-2006, 01:58 AM
Suicide is a sin now?
Not from what ive researched up around other sites.
Yeah suicide has always been a Sin ;s

sarey
13-08-2006, 02:05 AM
Ill take these quotes i found from another site;

I guess it depends on your own religion. If you are a Christian then I think you're more likely to think of suicide as a sin, than someone who doesn't believe in a certain religion, atheist. I'm not religious, but I don't think suicide is "right", meaning, I certainately don't encourage it because ending your own life is an extreme act and it's sad when people feel they are stuck in such a tight corner they feel their only way to get out of it is to end their life when there are many people out there who have been on the edge of suicide, or even attempted and lived, and now they are glad they didn't take their own life. I guess I'm being a bit of a hypercrite here because every single day I dream about ending my own life but when you have depression, it is difficult to control the urges and feelings. I'm going off track here I know, sorry. But basically I don't believe it's a "sin", as such, but I do believe suicide is an extreme act.

ex christian and I can answer your question. Yes it is a sin in the bible. do you go to hell forever because of it ? no. you believe jesus died for our sins and that if you believe in him you go to heaven or what/ever im guessing . So then you have nothing to worry about. Its not like every one goes to hell if they sined before they die. The only unforgiveable sin is basphemy against the holy spirit and I have no idea what that means. this is what the bible says, it contradicts itself alot tho.

I guess many have opinions based on if suicide is a sin or not, but i dont think it is, echoing what up above have said.

RedStratocas
13-08-2006, 02:32 AM
Yeah suicide has always been a Sin ;s

He's right, it has always been a sin. You dont get into heaven if you comit suicide

sarey
13-08-2006, 02:43 AM
How do you know?

Eamonn
13-08-2006, 08:49 PM
How do you know?
It's a thing called the bible m'dear.

NekkLe
13-08-2006, 08:54 PM
A tantrum turns into a freak accident, sad.

sarey
13-08-2006, 09:01 PM
It's a thing called the bible m'dear.

Yes, but the bible could be wrong, have you ever been to heaven or hell?
No, because if you have, you wouldn't be alive to tell the story.

Eamonn
13-08-2006, 09:08 PM
But I don't believe the bible is wrong , I believe in heaven and hell and what has been written in the bible so that post means nothing to me about your questioning.

RedStratocas
13-08-2006, 09:10 PM
How do you know?

No, I dont believe in the bible, thats just what the bible says, therefore a sin. Im on your side, I need actual proof that heaven and hell exist, but in christianity, they believe suicide is sinful and you dont get into heaven.

sarey
13-08-2006, 09:13 PM
Whatever, im not arguing over a stupid topic such as this, you may believe the bible is right, and i also am a christian, but no one will ever know what happens to them in the afterlife/spirit world, because obviously you cant tell whats happened.
I strongly believe in the afterlife, my auntie died for a few minutes, was brought back to life, obviously, and she told us that she seen a light, and she walked into the light, she seen her family, (the ones that have passed away), and they told her it wasnt her time, that just stronged my belief, even though all my life i have believed the afterlife is real, otherwise, why be alive in the world if there is nothing on the other side.
Now i have a cramp in my hand from typing to fast.
Further more, you read the post, so it means it does mean something, otherwise you wouldnt be replying to it.

I am no longer debating about this topic as yes, it is quite emotional for me due to some experiences.

R.I.P, and God bless the parents.

Eamonn
13-08-2006, 09:18 PM
Well you can't be a Christian at heart if you don't believe the bible, what has been written in it , heaven/hell ect.. and I was answering your question and saying that I don't question my own beliefs :] and I think everyones had experiences of death in family , it doesn't mean you can't talk about it ;s life goes on :] its called a place called Heaven/hell.

sarey
13-08-2006, 09:24 PM
Who said i have had experiences such as death? I have also had other experiences, and id prefer to not speak about this topic.
I am a christian thankyou very much, and do not question my religon(sp?), you do not even know me, so what right do you have in questioning what i believe in?
I believe in the bible, i just think deep about certain stuff sometimes, and when i think too deep, in some cases, i think negatively, which is why i question the bible to God sometimes in my prayers.
If you read correctly, i said i do not wish to speak further about this topic as it is not related to the thread, it is in someways, but i would rather not speak about it, it is your decision in what you believe, i respect your beliefs, and i also expect respect for mine. No proof has been given about the afterlife, that is quite impossible because you have to be dead to enter that world, some do see lights if they die for a few minutes, but either way, you can't tell the story as you would be dead.
I do not always need proof of something to believe in something, but i believe strongly of the spirits world/afterlife, but i also believe suicide is not a sin, my reasons are my own, and it is to complicated to say why.

Eamonn
13-08-2006, 09:25 PM
I am no longer debating about this topic as yes, it is quite emotional for me
Not a women of your word aye ? and suicide is as much a sin as abortion as the context is the same , taking a life.

sarey
13-08-2006, 09:27 PM
Well, you are continuously replying to my posts even though ive said i wish to not discuss this topic, yet you continue to do so, so i am going to do the same until you accept what i am TRYING to explain.

edible
13-08-2006, 09:28 PM
Leave mi cousin alone k?

Eamonn
13-08-2006, 09:30 PM
Huh ;s if you are referring to -Illusions , I think she can answer for herself and Illusions if you want to leave it at that and accept we both have different opinions of what are sins ect.. I will be happy too :]

sarey
13-08-2006, 09:34 PM
Hense what ive been trying to do for the last 2-3 posts!
Vicks is referring to me, we are cousins, incase you havent noticed, she pretty much calls me cousin alot. Unless you do not take any notice of her posts.

Eamonn
13-08-2006, 09:36 PM
Not really , you said you are not debating to this topic , I never said that until my previous post and no I obviously didn't know she was your cousin.

Kasabian
13-08-2006, 09:42 PM
She took it too far.

sarey
13-08-2006, 09:46 PM
Not really , you said you are not debating to this topic , I never said that until my previous post and no I obviously didn't know she was your cousin.

You should pay attention to my post, IN FULL, i did not want to debate, yet you continued, inwhich i continued also stating i wish to not carry on debating ect, yet you carry on, so i explained what i wanted done.
Took me 3 times to say it, wow, you really have a bad attention span.:rolleyes:

Azza
13-08-2006, 10:24 PM
in my opinion [w/e sp] things like sins right and rong are more of wat u believe in and wat is not said in the bible or anything else ^^
anyway off that and to main topic ^^

w/e her reasons for doing it , it is still bad especally for the family may they get/got through this ^^

RedStratocas
13-08-2006, 10:33 PM
Not a women of your word aye ? and suicide is as much a sin as abortion as the context is the same , taking a life.

Depends on what you mean by life.

sarey
13-08-2006, 10:36 PM
Depends on what you mean by life.


Also depends on the situation.

FlyingJesus
14-08-2006, 01:33 AM
Not a women of your word aye ? and suicide is as much a sin as abortion as the context is the same , taking a life.

I found a Bible passage that makes a loophole for abortion :8 Can't remember where it is, but it's something like:

"when men struggle and a woman with child {"with child" meaning pregnant} is harmed, and the woman loses her child, let the judgment be hers and no-one elses"

So basically if the woman says it's ok then it's not sinful ^_^

Back on subject however, I don't get how I never saw this.. I've been away for the past few days but still, this is my hometown it's happened in :S Sad stuff, it's incredible what children can be lead to do (there was a news story I read today about an autistic boy whose mother made him jump off a 100ft bridge by telling him he would fly, and then jumped to kill herself afterwards).

sarey
14-08-2006, 01:41 AM
Oh my gee flying :o !

omgabear
14-08-2006, 05:43 AM
Wow... just... wow.

To kill yourself is wrong... but over that bad show? woah.

Eamonn
14-08-2006, 07:14 AM
You should pay attention to my post, IN FULL, i did not want to debate, yet you continued, inwhich i continued also stating i wish to not carry on debating ect, yet you carry on, so i explained what i wanted done.
Took me 3 times to say it, wow, you really have a bad attention span.:rolleyes:
Not really ;s you may of wanted to stop debating this topic at that point of time but I didn't say I was :] and you talk about low attention span ahah and flyingjesus that sounds more like if she loses the baby like miscarriage or something.

edible
14-08-2006, 07:37 AM
I suggest you re-read them.

She did say Im not continueing to debate about this topic (w/e @ my spelling)

So yes. She actually stated them out. So if your gonna debate over a pathetic child commiting suicide, then your just as equally pathetic.
Your debating about whether its a sin. Who cares ?

Just leave this topic.

Eamonn
14-08-2006, 07:44 AM
Ahaha , your cousin argueing for you , classic :eusa_clap and it will be my decision when or even if I decide to leave this topic :8

Herman
14-08-2006, 08:04 AM
I think 11 year olds should be smart enough to think on their own. This girl was really selfish, she didn't think about how her parents, her family and relatives would react to her death. But my sympathy goes to her parents, especially the poor mother.

NekkLe
14-08-2006, 09:10 AM
(there was a news story I read today about an autistic boy whose mother made him jump off a 100ft bridge by telling him he would fly, and then jumped to kill herself afterwards).

Thats terrible, misleading a child who is vulnerable is discusting.

FlyingJesus
14-08-2006, 05:15 PM
flyingjesus that sounds more like if she loses the baby like miscarriage or something.

Abortion = forced miscarriage

Hooray for me.

sarey
14-08-2006, 05:28 PM
Ahaha , your cousin argueing for you , classic :eusa_clap and it will be my decision when or even if I decide to leave this topic :8


ACTUALLY, i was not on to continue this stupid debate.
Get over the fact of my belief,
END OFF.
Leaving this topic now!!!!!

i'm klkl
14-08-2006, 05:31 PM
I suggest you re-read them.

She did say Im not continueing to debate about this topic (w/e @ my spelling)

So yes. She actually stated them out. So if your gonna debate over a pathetic child commiting suicide, then your just as equally pathetic.
Your debating about whether its a sin. Who cares ?

Just leave this topic.

since when do you get to decide who posts where????
he can say what he wants to who he wants, just because she says "i'm not contunuing this debate" doesn't mean he isn't allowed to.

and oh amazing logic there, talking about a girl who commited suicide, makes you just as pathetic as her, oh yes.

sarey
14-08-2006, 05:34 PM
since when do you get to decide who posts where????
he can say what he wants to who he wants, just because she says "i'm not contunuing this debate" doesn't mean he isn't allowed to.

and oh amazing logic there, talking about a girl who commited suicide, makes you just as pathetic as her, oh yes.

leave her alone, she was just sticking up for me because i werent on to continue this.
he can post all he wants, i just prefer it if he doesnt post quoting me.

i'm klkl
14-08-2006, 05:37 PM
leave her alone, she was just sticking up for me because i werent on to continue this.
he can post all he wants, i just prefer it if he doesnt post quoting me.

why should i?
i'm just sticking up for him.
so it's exactly the same.

and he can quote you if he wants to???

sarey
14-08-2006, 05:39 PM
why should i?
i'm just sticking up for him.
so it's exactly the same.

and he can quote you if he wants to???


not after a million times of saying i wish to not continue this stupid debate.
dont people respect anyone on here?
is it just a forum where people mouth others off and do not respect others beliefs or whatever?

i'm klkl
14-08-2006, 05:42 PM
not after a million times of saying i wish to not continue this stupid debate.
dont people respect anyone on here?
is it just a forum where people mouth others off and do not respect others beliefs or whatever?

well just stop replying?
you should respect that people have the right to say whatever they want.

sarey
14-08-2006, 05:46 PM
well just stop replying?
you should respect that people have the right to say whatever they want.


And YOU should respect that others do not want to continue something with is utterly stupid and beyond disrespectful since this is a thread about someone who has commitied suicide!

IS SUICIDE A SIN?
I DON'T REALLY CARE ANYMORE.
If it is, shes gone to hell, if it isnt, shes gone to heaven, whatever!
I have said so many times before, that i respect what he believes in, and that i do not want to continue debating, so if he wants to continue, OBVIOUSLY IM GOING TO POST.

Just fricken leave it for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I seriously don't understand what you two don't understand about me saying;
I do not wish to debate about this.

And if you are going to continue, at least don't quote me, i don't want to be involved anymore, I WAS SIMPLY QUOTING WHAT I THINK SUICIDE IS, and now you won't leave me alone about it!

Azul
14-08-2006, 05:48 PM
........

i'm klkl
14-08-2006, 05:51 PM
........

LOL


And YOU should respect that others do not want to continue something with is utterly stupid and beyond disrespectful since this is a thread about someone who has commitied suicide!

IS SUICIDE A SIN?
I DON'T REALLY CARE ANYMORE.
If it is, shes gone to hell, if it isnt, shes gone to heaven, whatever!
I have said so many times before, that i respect what he believes in, and that i do not want to continue debating, so if he wants to continue, OBVIOUSLY IM GOING TO POST.

Just fricken leave it for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I seriously don't understand what you two don't understand about me saying;
I do not wish to debate about this.

And if you are going to continue, at least don't quote me, i don't want to be involved anymore, I WAS SIMPLY QUOTING WHAT I THINK SUICIDE IS, and now you won't leave me alone about it!

if you don't want to continue.. STOP POSTING!!!!!!!

sarey
14-08-2006, 05:53 PM
LOL



if you don't want to continue.. STOP POSTING!!!!!!!

Done & done.
Actually don't reply to this, cause ill just end up replying back.

samsaBEAR
14-08-2006, 06:05 PM
How utterly pathetic. Tbh, I don't care what you lot say, but for gods sake, hanging herself beacause she can't watch BB? That's just stupid, it's not even worth it, BB is a load of crap

timROGERS
14-08-2006, 06:17 PM
I lol'd. I feel sorry for her parents, I have no sympathy for her though, she's a pathetic attention-seeker.

As a Christian I thought I'd make it clear about whether suicide is a sin or not.

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Romans 6:23

"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own, you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body."
1 Corinthians:15:19

:dallsgreen
14-08-2006, 06:30 PM
Wow, that is one crazy little girl. I didn't think that show was that good.

BL!NKEY
14-08-2006, 06:56 PM
She didnt do it just because of big brother

Obviosly she had other problems and was holding anger.

When her mom sent her to her room it was the last straw.



Most people are just seeing that some girl was happy and watching bb then her mom said no so she went and killed herself.

RedStratocas
14-08-2006, 07:09 PM
She didnt do it just because of big brother

Obviosly she had other problems and was holding anger.

When her mom sent her to her room it was the last straw.



Most people are just seeing that some girl was happy and watching bb then her mom said no so she went and killed herself.


Even if the 'last straw' was not watching big brother, its pathetic.

edible
14-08-2006, 07:15 PM
I lol'd. I feel sorry for her parents, I have no sympathy for her though, she's a pathetic attention-seeker.

As a Christian I thought I'd make it clear about whether suicide is a sin or not.

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Romans 6:23

"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own, you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body."
1 Corinthians:15:19

I agree :D Brrap

NekkLe
14-08-2006, 09:08 PM
She didnt do it just because of big brother

Obviosly she had other problems and was holding anger.

When her mom sent her to her room it was the last straw.



Most people are just seeing that some girl was happy and watching bb then her mom said no so she went and killed herself.

I read this in the news paper the other week and her mum said she didn't know why she'd do such a thing. She didn't seem depressed in anyway, she was just normal, but crazy enough to hang herself "/

Many
14-08-2006, 09:43 PM
I don't feel sad for her atall.
She hung herself could she couldn't get her own way?!
What a spoilt little brat.
Sorry, but i found that quite funny and true.
Although when someone dies, you should show respect, this is pathetic? Hanging yourslef because you cant watch big brother? To be honest thats absoultely pathetic, and sad.

sarey
14-08-2006, 10:33 PM
I lol'd. I feel sorry for her parents, I have no sympathy for her though, she's a pathetic attention-seeker.

As a Christian I thought I'd make it clear about whether suicide is a sin or not.

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Romans 6:23

"Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own, you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body."
1 Corinthians:15:19

Just thought id add to that by saying this, as i researched whether it is or not, but still, i find it a yes and no answer;

The Sixth Commandment states, "Thou shalt not kill" (Ex. 20:13; Deut. 5:17). Notice that there is no distinction made between killing another person and killing oneself.

A person considering suicide has reached that point by allowing circumstances in his life to rule over him. The Apostle Paul asked, "Know you not, that to whom you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" (Rom. 6:16). In verse 12, he exhorts us, "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in the lusts thereof."

In Matthew 22:39, Christ taught, "…You shall love your neighbor as yourself." In Ephesians 5:29, Paul stated, "For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourishes and cherishes it…" A person contemplating suicide may say that he hates himself, but his real motivation is one of utter self-love, to the point that he totally disregards the feelings and needs of others, and the impact that his actions will have on his family and friends. In I Corinthians 13:5, Paul stated, "[Charity (love)] seeks not its own…" He also stated, "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel [a non-believer]" (I Tim. 5 : 8).

Those who commit suicide receive the same judgment as those who do not even believe God's Word. Their ultimate reward is shown in Revelation 21: 8: "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and sorcerors, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

The Bible clearly shows that the unpardonable sin is any sin unrepented of (Heb. 10:26; I John 5:16; Jas. 4:17). Killing is plainly sin. One who kills himself is certainly in jeopardy of being left in an unrepentant condition.

Sazzle
15-08-2006, 12:06 AM
She's a bit pathetic. She's eleven, I wouldn't say that was young or anything, so she should know better. I feel sorry for her family and that though..

Victimized
15-08-2006, 12:08 AM
I'd just like to add aswell, what the hell could be going on in an 11 year old's life to make them want to commit suicide?
Yeah she could've been getting abused by her parents, but the police wouldn've found something to prove that, so i think this was just a one-off little immature girl not getting her own way.

Ronaldo
15-08-2006, 12:28 AM
Stupidness

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