Do you say the racist 'P' word...

[Ostinato]

Hey.

This thread is in no way meant to cause offence and if any arguments break out or stuff it'll just get closed, lol.

I was thinking about how on Big Brother and stuff is anyone says the "P" word which is classed as racist, they would definitely be kicked out. However, I know loads of people who use the word - not in an offensive way.

For instance, they may just say "I'm going to the [word]" - in reference to their local corner shop...

Or like describe someone's race as [word]... Obviously that isn't politically correct, but many people simply class it as an abbreviation.

Therefore, I was just wondering whether this is a common term which people use around the country in a non-offensive way, but in every day language.

Cheers. :)

[PaulMacC]

Nevermind I know the meaning.

[summer]

i never refer to them as '****' and normally i'll say brown shop instead of **** shop.

[the wombats]

yeah i use it, it's only a shortened version of pakistani which is what some people are. what's so racist about it?

[mrwoooooooo]

the word is *REMOVED* and I use it.


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[YoManGo!]

i say **** quite a lot haha

[dirrty]

Yeah, whats the p word ?
its not very hard to figure out, its kind of obvious :rolleyes:
and yh i do sometimes. but obviously not in an offensive way. everyone does at my school aswell,

[PaulMacC]

No I dont use it but some people have made a rude poem.

I better remove this I'm only realsing how racist it was.

[VPSwow]

The think i dont get is

"asians" - Asia
"british" - Birtain
"****" - Pakistan

So how can they correct us from saying **** when they are from pakistan not asia :S

[Ostinato]

i never refer to them as '****' and normally i'll say brown shop instead of **** shop.

I would say that's more racist reffering to it as that, than using the term I'm talking about lol.


the word is pakí, and I use it.

Rofl straight to the point. :P

I think quite a lot of people actually use it, yet society likes to pretend it is a disgusting word which no-one uses. However, I think the reality is many people do - not in a harmful or offensive way, but simply as an abbreviation of their nationality within our everyday language.

[Jamie!]

aye, it's part of like everyday language up north. no-one takes offence to it either so it's all good.

[dirrty]

The think i dont get is

"asians" - Asia
"british" - Birtain
"****" - Pakistan

So how can they correct us from saying **** when they are from pakistan not asia :S
i guess its how you use the word. ppl have used that word for so long in an offensive way that it is deemed offensive.

[gosling]

No I dont use it but some people have made a rude poem.

I better remove this I'm only realsing how racist it was.wow, are you still in primary school?

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[the wombats]

aye, it's part of like everyday language up north. no-one takes offence to it either so it's all good.

exactly! :rolleyes:

[summer]

I would say that's more racist reffering to it as that, than using the term I'm talking about lol.

i don't say it to be more/less racist, it's just what normally comes out.

[Ostinato]

Yeh some people obviously do use that term in a bad way - but 90% of the time it's an innocent abbreviation. Just like people may use the word "Gay" as an insult or something, but the majority of people don't use it in an offensive way...

To be honest, I think everyone int he area I live in either frequently says it or has at some point. I just think it's part of common language, but I get the impression from TV and stuff that it's a word no-one actually uses... but then I post this and my original suspicions are confirmed! :P

[OMGitsaROSS]

I activley use it, un offensivlley.

[alexxxxx]

nope. it is generally percieved as a racist term in any manner of speach. i am not racist and i do not want to be seen as being racist, and so do not use the word.

[Ostinato]

;3618736']nope. it is generally percieved as a racist term in any manner of speach. i am not racist and i do not want to be seen as being racist, and so do not use the word.

Fair enough.

[Energizer]

yeah, quite a bit.

[Liam!]

it's just shortened, i don't see a problem.

although i barely use it.

[Antallica]

Yes i say it.

[Ostinato]

it's just shortened, i don't see a problem.

although i barely use it.

Yeh don't get me wrong, I don't go around saying it in every single sentence I can and using it 24/7.

I hardly ever say it to be honest, but I may make the odd comment using it - but I would never dream of using it in any sort of racially abusive way.

I think this thread is outlining that the majority of people do in fact use it...

[Hitman]

Yes, I do. I'm the same as Ostiano. :)

[Ostinato]

Keep voting in the poll if you havn't already please! :) <3

[Frodo13.]

For the sake of this post, I will refer to the word in question a 'P' :D

I only ever adress someone with P if they are from Pakistan, simple as. I have a Indian freind who I would never call that. I also tend to call Muslims, P, even if there not nesicarilly from Pakistan but would never say that to a Hindu or Sikh.

[Hitman]

Just like to say: I'd never call anybody from anywhere the "P" word, but I do use it.

[Ostinato]

I don't even really say it to be honest. It's not like I walk up to people and say "Hey are you a P..." lol.

I have friends who are muslim from pakistan who actually call themselves it and are completely comfortable with the word, whilst I have others who are completely against the use of it.

[-Soph-]

no one really uses it in america, so no.

[ViRgIn]

No not really I hate using it, If I say it by mistake or something I don't like it.
In the past I have said it in arguments before when I was younger and really regert it and felt bad.

[Ashley 12344]

I do, although only amongst friends usually.
Theres a considerably large amount of Asians in my school (Indian's and Pakistani's mainly). We all make jokes at each other.

[Jõnathan]

I don't use the shortened form of Pakistani often.
Although I currently have a tendency to say things about gypsies...

[shiver]

nah not very much. if i'm going to this 'P' shop, i just call it the shop lol. when i do say it, it's not meant in an offensive way.

i chose yes, because occasionally i will say it

[Tash.]

No I don't use it because I personally don't think it's seen as a nice word to use, none of my friends or people around me use it so I see no need to.

[Jazza]

No, nobody should be allowed to say it.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No not really.

I don't consider it racist, is Brit, Aussie, Canadian and Iraqi racist? - No they are not.

[Kardan]

Nope, I live in the most multicultural area of Britain, you'd be killed if someone heard you saying that word.

"Leicester defines itself as the (harmonious)multicultural city of Europe, and I think I go a longways towards agreeing with that… There is greaterdiversity in two or three square blocks here thananywhere I can think of in Europe."

[Ostinato]

nah not very much. if i'm going to this 'P' shop, i just call it the shop lol. when i do say it, it's not meant in an offensive way.

i chose yes, because occasionally i will say it

Yeh don't get me wrong, it's not as though I'm saying it every day of my life haha. I hardly ever say it, if at all - but sometimes I do occasionally by accident but always try not to use it.

[Hab4Life]

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Saying *Removed* Is Not Racist

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[beth]

i don't like the word. as in i don't like the linguistics of it, so i don't use it. aha.

[:Jamie]

I see pakis say **** so yeh of course.

[bo$$]

The think i dont get is

"asians" - Asia
"british" - Birtain
"****" - Pakistan

So how can they correct us from saying **** when they are from pakistan not asia :S


I see pakis say **** so yeh of course.

err.. you see black people say ------ but that doesn't make it right?
you see asians say one of the many slurs against them but that doesnt make it right?
You see pretty much any culture saying anything racist about themselves but that doesn't make it right for you to say it :l

and ummm I don't know if its been told or not. but to anyone whos said like. Oh they are from Pakistan so thats what they are called or whatever.. and the people from asian are asian, britian are british, etc...
People from Pakistan: wouldnt it be Pakistani? :l

[:Jamie]

If its fine for them to then why cant we, the word racist these days is just out of context. You see blacks call eachother ****** but they dont like it when we refer to them as it? I bet 99% of them dont even get offended by it. You know your not even allowed to call ppl half cast now coz its deemed racist, who gets offended by that..

[bo$$]

If its fine for them to then why cant we, the word racist these days is just out of context. You see ****** call eachother ****** but they dont like it when we refer to them as it? I bet 99% of them dont even get offended by it.

They say it like you said it. When they get offended is when people add an -er at the end. And they can say it because they are it.
Say for example...

Damn. I had an example. but I forgot it. I'll edit this thread in a bit when I can remember :P

[:Jamie]

THey say it because they are it? Then they shouldnt mind others calling them it. Your just making no point, are you black?

[Camci]

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[bo$$]

THey say it because they are it? Then they shouldnt mind others calling them it. Your just making no point, are you black?

If you must know, I'm mixed.
And I wasn't saying they say it because they are it I was saying they CAN say it because they are it. Just like you don't mind making fun of yourself every once and awhile, but its bad when someone else does it?

[PriceTags]

and ummm I don't know if its been told or not. but to anyone whos said like. Oh they are from Pakistan so thats what they are called or whatever.. and the people from asian are asian, britian are british, etc...
People from Pakistan: wouldnt it be Pakistani? :l

I'm agreeing with that point...

I don't use it, and my parents discourage me and my sister from using it, and they rarely use it themselves. I do think it's a bit racist if you just call some random Asian it. It depends on the context, but I never say it - I follow all the political correctness rules... it's the only way I'll get by in this country.

Nearly half of my school are from Bangladesh, and there's more fights than anything. I saw an Bangladeshi boy strangle a white boy for calling him the P word - even though he isn't from Pakistan, it's still wrong for the white boy to go round saying it. Apart from that, there are proper fights. Mostly within my year (whoopee...).

And for the person on the first page, Pakistan is in Asia.

[:Jamie]

Its like I heard someone say this "If a black person is born in britain they call themself british but you dont see a dog born in a stable and consider itself a horse"

[bo$$]

Also, just because you might think its "just a word" and whatever and you can't see why someone would get offended by it you should realize that people think differently. If you were the one being slurred Im sure you'd be mad too. If you sit here saying "Ohhh well thats stupid its just a word i wouldnt get offended and its dumb that they do" then like I said, people think differently about things.

Bottom line, I don't say any racist/near racist words just randomly. or ever even.



edit; to the post above, whether the guy considers himself british or not I'm sure he'd be offended if someone either called him a n----- or something offensive about British people

[Soil]

Not in a racist way. I will say it when I am talking to a Pakistani. "The other pakis ..." or something like that.

[Jazza]

No not really.

I don't consider it racist, is Brit, Aussie, Canadian and Iraqi racist? - No they are not.

Its not the same though, **** is a derogatory term whereas Brit and Aussie etc aren't. **** is to Pakistani as ****** is to Negro which is where it came from originally


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Saying P*SS Is Not Racist

The word is **** not **** lol.

[bo$$]

Its not the same though, **** is a derogatory term whereas Brit and Aussie etc aren't. **** is to Pakistani as ****** is to Negro which is where it came from originally



The word is **** not **** lol.

lol. the "SAYING P*SS IS NOT RACIST" made me laugh.
Nice answer though :)

[FlyingJesus]

err.. you see black people say ------ but that doesn't make it right?
you see asians say one of the many slurs against them but that doesnt make it right?
You see pretty much any culture saying anything racist about themselves but that doesn't make it right for you to say it :l

and ummm I don't know if its been told or not. but to anyone whos said like. Oh they are from Pakistan so thats what they are called or whatever.. and the people from asian are asian, britian are british, etc...
People from Pakistan: wouldnt it be Pakistani? :l

Why is it "wrong" to say something just because you're not part of that race? Surely to say that is itself more racist than using a different word for someone. For me it's like the difference between calling someone tall and calling them big - there's no real difference, just in the wording

Also yes it is Pakistani technically but can be shortened in the same way that a Briton can be called a Brit.

[Shawnstra]

I don't really use racist slurs, only sometimes when I am really ****** off :P

[le harry]

i never heard of it so nope :)

[dannyisnotamazing]

I use it an awful lot. It doesn't seem racist to me also *REMOVED* is considered racist, isn't it? Yet they call them selves that so I don't see how it's racist. :rolleyes:.

Everything is considered racism nowadays, I agree with most people is saying Aussie, Brit or Yanks racist? I think not.

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[Slash]

I sometimes say it. They can call themselves it, and find it a joke. When someone else says it, they're majorly offended. :rolleyes:

[Blinger1]

no body says that over here

[:Hazel]

i dont use it.

[beth]

if the word is deemed offensive by someone you shouldn't be using it end of. it's just community respect really?

[Catzsy]

Well the way it is used the majority of the time is pretty offensive no different to the N word for African/Americans.

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Its like I heard someone say this "If a black person is born in britain they call themself british but you dont see a dog born in a stable and consider itself a horse"

Yes it was the comedian Bernard Manning who died yesterday who was a self confessed racist and I find the remark pretty offensive as I am sure the majority of the population do.

[hadouken!]

i call my asian friends ****, or nig nog, but no offence is meant. i would never say it to somebody i do not know properly.

[Dan2nd]

No I don't feel comfortable saying it :)

[Hecktix]

I just call them Asian or Indian.

If they are from Pakistan I will call them a Pakistani.

I utterly despise it when people call a random person a "p" because of the colour of their skin, when they may not even be from pakistan.

[N!ck]

Do you refer to Chinese people as Asian? Probably not. So why refer to people from Pakistan as Asian? Do you consider yourself as European if you were talking about your ethnic background? Probably not, you would say either British or English.

People from China are Chinese, people from India are Indian, people from England are English and people from Pakistan are Pakistani.

What can be seen as offensive are the shortened down versions becase they are sometimes used in a racist context. But would you see someone calling you a "Brit" as racist? It's because it is not usually used in a racist context like *REMOVED* can be.

I use the full names like Pakistaini rather than shortened down terms so that they are not percieved as racist, even though they are not really, and saying Asian is not really tangible unless you start refering to Chinese and Japanese people as Asian aswell.


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[Hecktix]

If you don't know a person's ethnic origin you can't call them from the certain country.

Just because they are of a certain skin colour wouldnt make me call them pakistani, i would call them Asian.

And no, believe it or not Nick, I have common sense, and can tell a Chinese person from an Asian person. And I would call them Chinese.

Each person has their own ethnic background, and you can't pinpoint what country everybody is from.
I don't make a habit of calling people by their ethnic background, but it's easy if there are a group of people and instead of saying "that person over there" saying "the Asian person".

[Migan]

Nope, I don't like saying it.

[Mentor]

Meh, the Brits are just a bunch of pom's anyway.

Seriously, i think you would pretty much solve racism if everyone just used Australia's racial insults :p

[Dan2nd]

I've got a friend who some people would call 'indian' when infact he was born in south africa ;)

[N!ck]

If you don't know a person's ethnic origin you can't call them from the certain country.

Just because they are of a certain skin colour wouldnt make me call them pakistani, i would call them Asian.

And no, believe it or not Nick, I have common sense, and can tell a Chinese person from an Asian person. And I would call them Chinese.

Each person has their own ethnic background, and you can't pinpoint what country everybody is from.
I don't make a habit of calling people by their ethnic background, but it's easy if there are a group of people and instead of saying "that person over there" saying "the Asian person".




That is true, but what if the person "over there" was white? Would you say that European person, that North American or that Austrilasian person because you don't know their ethnic background. Following your theory you would have to say "Earthling" or something.

[Hecktix]

That is true, but what if the person "over there" was white? Would you say that European person, that North American or that Austrilasian person because you don't know their ethnic background. Following your theory you would have to say "Earthling" or something.

I'm talking about the situation in which I would use a word to describe a person of a different ethnic origin.

If they were white you would go into a more detailed description as there will most probably be more white people than other. So you would describe their appearance more.

But if it was a group of white people and an Asian person, and you were pointing the Asian person out to a friend, my point is i'd say Asian not the word being discussed in this thread.

[N!ck]

I'm talking about the situation in which I would use a word to describe a person of a different ethnic origin.

So a person from Spain/France/Germany/USA/Australia is not from a different ethnic origin?


If they were white you would go into a more detailed description as there will most probably be more white people than other. So you would describe their appearance more.

Why not go into a detailed description about the "Asian" preson? Fat, thin, tall...?


But if it was a group of white people and an Asian person, and you were pointing the Asian person out to a friend, my point is i'd say Asian not the word being discussed in this thread.


But wouldn't saying "white people" be classed as racist with all this PC nonesence these days? Also if you knew the person then you would probably know the ethnic background of the person and would not need to say "Asian".

[Hecktix]

It's easy to say asian rather than say "the one with short dark hair"

[N!ck]

It's easy to say asian rather than say "the one with short dark hair"

But would you say the European person or North American person or Austrilasian person rather than the one with short dark hair?

[Crimson]

I admit that I do, but they might call white people wiggers. :S
I think its silly that we get in so much trouble if we are racist yet if a "P" (:P) says somthing about our skin colour it isn't that bad.

[Hecktix]

But would you say the European person or North American person or Austrilasian person rather than the one with short dark hair?

If I knew what their ethnic background was; yes.

[DiscoPat]

My pakistani friends dont mind it, its just like when people try to cus them and say [P][P] etc its just like saying English English, or stuff like that it isnt offensive

[jendog]

yeah ive said it before, and i even call it my pakistani friends who dont mind it at all. its just the same as calling us brits?

[Agent 47]

Hmm, I am barely ever racist, see, I'm a nice person, although all my friends say it.