View Full Version : [Adzeh] Your views on the Habbox Departments
Adzeh
26-09-2007, 02:21 PM
Hey guys,
As most of you who use the Feedback forum will be aware, I have let go of my job as HabboxLive Manager and was offered the position as AGM which I took on :).
My responsibility as Assistant General Manager is in short, departmental productivity, which simply entails my keeping tabbs on all departments and department managers, offering advice and feedback to both, and generally maintaining and/or improving the standards Habbox currently has.
Its all well and good for me to just go and blitz every department that I think isn't doing as good a job as they could, but if I'm working on the wrong departments, then it is a complete waste of time.
So before I do anything, I'd like to get a clear idea of where you think Habbox is currently struggling, and more important, why you think so.
Now obviously this thread needs a fair amount of maturity, and I don't want to have to end up closing it, and be no closer to understanding visitors' views, when we get a load of people saying "blah blah, Habbox is rubbish, because blah blah blah. This manager is a total n00b blah blah". Insulting / derrogatory posts are not what we need :).
What we do need, is something along the lines of "I think ... isn't doing too good because... which means that... but I think if you do... it will make it better".
So, this is your chance to help me help yourselves :). But if you can't be constructive in your criticisms, then I don't want to know what you have to say; simple as that.
Thanks alot for your help and support :).
A rule (only for this specific thread) has been added to keep this thread clean and flame-free. You may not comment or allude to any specific members of staff, please make comments on departments as a whole, not managers, and not individual staff members. Complaints about managers and individual staff members are welcome, however only in my inbox, not on the public forums. Thanks ~ nvrspk4
Ashley
26-09-2007, 02:25 PM
In my personal opinion, I would like the Rare Values to be updated more often than they currently are; since they're Habbox's main attraction.
Adzeh
26-09-2007, 02:26 PM
Model reply above :).
+rep thanks for the comments.
Better moderators who arent rude. I have seen a lot of moderators who are rude.
devil.wont.Cry was rude. Made pointless posts and also gave out pointless revenge reps.
I am sure they are all against the forum rules. I complained, but it was ignored.
Tom H
26-09-2007, 02:41 PM
When hiring managers choose people who have been in the department rather than people who are old school habbox members (jrh2002), more of a management department concern. It is all great having experience, but experience without putting the hard work in before that is not all that great.
I don't regard previous experience as a strict proof of existence as of now, so the character of the discussion does change some what. When I say previous experience I don't mean simply being good at that role, I mean a loving, but unclear, awareness of some object which irresistibly seems to the experiencer as
transcending the self, something transcending all the other dj's of experience, something that can't be pictured or done by anyone else.
I almost class it as a sin to just come through the whole ranks to take up a senior role within HabboxLive, it's not like JRH has a "living existence of importance of his works" to prove his almighty skills. I think that JRH needs to step back and let ,jess, run the department alongside him as she has more experience of the now. It's essential you understand the logic of the now experience rather than the old experience.
If you go to uni now and learn computer science, by the 3rd/4th year of your degree half of the info will be out-dated therefore you wont be greatly up to date, and that can be put into context here with a old manager at habbox.
I would expect Habbox to know better about that, as I think MAD has a few brain cells more than a few of the AGM's here at habbox, which in anycase could mean MAD has 3, or more than likely. Maybe missing a few Neurons or Glial cells.
Just my view,
Sort it out god almighty Adzeh (Sarcasm right there for them who lack an existence of intelligence).
If you read with an observation my post does contains the necessary details you require, if you don't find them let me know and I'll be sure to assist you.
Clouud
26-09-2007, 02:47 PM
When hiring managers choose people who have been in the department rather than people who are old school habbox members (jrh2002), more of a management department concern. It is all great having experience, but experience without putting the hard work in before that is not all that great.
I don't regard previous experience as a strict proof of existence as of now, so the character of the discussion does change some what. When I say previous experience I don't mean simply being good at that role, I mean a loving, but unclear, awareness of some object which irresistibly seems to the experiencer as
transcending the self, something transcending all the other dj's of experience, something that can't be pictured or done by anyone else.
I almost class it as a sin to just come through the whole ranks to take up a senior role within HabboxLive, it's not like JRH has a "living existence of importance of his works" to prove his almighty skills. I think that JRH needs to step back and let ,jess, run the department alongside him as she has more experience of the now. It's essential you understand the logic of the now experience rather than the old experience.
If you go to uni now and learn computer science, by the 3rd/4th year of your degree half of the info will be out-dated therefore you wont be greatly up to date, and that can be put into context here with a old manager at habbox.
I would expect Habbox to know better about that, as I think MAD has a few brain cells more than a few of the AGM's here at habbox, which in anycase could mean MAD has 3, or more than likely. Maybe missing a few Neurons or Glial cells.
Just my view,
Sort it out god almighty Adzeh (Sarcasm right there for them who lack an existence of intelligence).
If you read with an observation my post does contains the necessary details you require, if you don't find them let me know and I'll be sure to assist you.
Tom.
I love you.
:)
WarezKid
26-09-2007, 02:51 PM
I think the mods are alright, I only had problems with SMOD's :rolleyes:
Anyways, I think the HabboxLive needs a new layout, Maybe have a vote on which one you like the best before coding/or putting on site ;)
And the rare values needs alot more RVR :eusa_wallIt needs to be updated everyday atleast.
There more but i think about it first :)
Adzeh
26-09-2007, 03:02 PM
When hiring managers choose people who have been in the department rather than people who are old school habbox members (jrh2002), more of a management department concern. It is all great having experience, but experience without putting the hard work in before that is not all that great.
I don't regard previous experience as a strict proof of existence as of now, so the character of the discussion does change some what. When I say previous experience I don't mean simply being good at that role, I mean a loving, but unclear, awareness of some object which irresistibly seems to the experiencer as
transcending the self, something transcending all the other dj's of experience, something that can't be pictured or done by anyone else.
I almost class it as a sin to just come through the whole ranks to take up a senior role within HabboxLive, it's not like JRH has a "living existence of importance of his works" to prove his almighty skills. I think that JRH needs to step back and let ,jess, run the department alongside him as she has more experience of the now. It's essential you understand the logic of the now experience rather than the old experience.
If you go to uni now and learn computer science, by the 3rd/4th year of your degree half of the info will be out-dated therefore you wont be greatly up to date, and that can be put into context here with a old manager at habbox.
I would expect Habbox to know better about that, as I think MAD has a few brain cells more than a few of the AGM's here at habbox, which in anycase could mean MAD has 3, or more than likely. Maybe missing a few Neurons or Glial cells.
Just my view,
Sort it out god almighty Adzeh (Sarcasm right there for them who lack an existence of intelligence).
If you read with an observation my post does contains the necessary details you require, if you don't find them let me know and I'll be sure to assist you.
So you were posting irrelevant technical and advanced vocabulary to hide your underlying message then?
Thought so :P, and as an AGM with at least one brain cell, I did understand.
Thanks for help.
In my opinion I want to see more promotion of the international (Habbox World) department. I think graphics department could do with a face list.
That's mostly it cause Habbox rock tbh :P.
Thanks,
Grig :)
Adzeh
26-09-2007, 03:16 PM
Can you expand on "face list"? *feels stupid* :P.
Well basically I want to see graphics updated more regularly and basically more graphical features on the habbox site, just to make it look cooler. I also know that the graphics staff kind of slack off (even Ken told me himself).
Sorry if you still don't understand, I will draw pictures next time then :P
Adzeh
26-09-2007, 03:22 PM
Haha that would be good thanks :P.
+rep for comments.
Mr.OSH
26-09-2007, 03:33 PM
:) Maybe a new and or improved design for Habbox.com and maybe work on design for the forum, updating a bit of it from time to time to make it look nicer. However my main feeling is that the site would be better if it was changed around a bit, design wise. I can't particularly think of anything else at the moment, from my view Habbox department appear to be getting on fine, or from what I see. As I said mainly I'd like to see new design defiantly on Habbox.com and possibly the forum, or at least infrequent updates as I can't remember many changes to the Forum Skins/Layout since quite a number of months, unless I'm being very u****ervant. Overall I'd love to see the site have a change of scene.
Dan2nd
26-09-2007, 03:39 PM
I think we need more support at HxHD maybe we could advertise it on the main Habbox site and 'big' it up a bit more?
WarezKid
26-09-2007, 03:52 PM
I also argee with dan.
Sort it out god almighty Adzeh (Sarcasm right there for them who lack an existence of intelligence).
You might actually get infracted.
I was infracted by MAD for apprently being rude to Sunny when I said "[/end sarcasm]" in the post.
Sunny even said he wasnt offended as he knew it was a joke. MAD wont reverse it :rolleyes:
He lacks brain cells. He doesnt understand peoples post properly, thats why so many hate him.
WarezKid
26-09-2007, 04:05 PM
Kk. get more mods
Why close my thread :L
Cant they just edit post????
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=402483
EDIT: Tougher rules?
I dont want idiots being rude. It would be called as bullying :l if it carryied on.
I think HxHD needs to be promoted more on the habbox.com, or changed, because really its only a meeting place for people on the forum now, and you get random people who come in and swear at you from other fansites. I havnt seen anyone ask for help in ages :/
And i think we need a couple of new skins aswell.
today
26-09-2007, 05:53 PM
Let me update my skin pls.
(Blue style)
Hecktix1
26-09-2007, 06:32 PM
HxHD is dead....
I think it should be closed and replaced with something,
Help desks on Habbo are a thing of the past.
GoldenMerc
26-09-2007, 06:53 PM
Get HxHD popular again (Hire Eckuii again)
Get a new layout for radio(its going pretty well atm so no bad comments)
Bring back HxTV
Make the rare values updated more often
Dan2nd
26-09-2007, 07:00 PM
HxHD is dead....
I think it should be closed and replaced with something,
Help desks on Habbo are a thing of the past.
I wouldn't say its dead we have some very good days but unfortunetly we also have some bad ones. I think it was actually on monday and tuesday this week we had quite alot of people in and the room was almost full. Today however we're having another down day. We are improving slowly by bringing new staff in and chucking rubbish ones out. I think like I said before is more support from the main Habbox site and maybe need to create a level of consistency as everyday should be a good day.
e5back2k7
26-09-2007, 07:12 PM
hi i just looked a title and I want to say................ get consitant fun staff tbh like the old ones
Neversoft
26-09-2007, 08:25 PM
Get better moderators and ease up on the rules a little. You get an infraction for calling someone a moron. =/ And my post got removed because it said 'idiot' in it. :l
today
26-09-2007, 08:29 PM
I agree with that, maybe "moron, fool, goon, noob" shouldnt get infracted for.
Tristan
26-09-2007, 08:40 PM
Better moderators who arent rude. I have seen a lot of moderators who are rude.
devil.wont.Cry was rude. Made pointless posts and also gave out pointless revenge reps.
I am sure they are all against the forum rules. I complained, but it was ignored.
Totally agreed. He was rather rude in my old thread too.
opensource even closed my thread that I made asking some people to do something for me/help me with something and it gets closed for the encouragement of pointless reputation? He should check the whole of the forum as he's bound to find hundreds more threads that ask people for help with something or anything like that, rewarding helpers with rep.
It's common sense.
Neversoft
26-09-2007, 08:44 PM
Get better moderators and ease up on the rules a little. You get an infraction for calling someone a moron. =/ And my post got removed because it said 'idiot' in it. :l
Oh and you know when you type a filtered word it comes out as ****, well some mods have edited where it says **** and put 'removed'. Bloody pointless. They're just after mod logs.
Smiddy
26-09-2007, 08:46 PM
Be a tiny bit more relaxed with members, and toughen up on staff.
When I say this, I mean, don't let them get away with little amount of work, unless they have an official leave.
Without members, you can't have staff; without staff, the members would have nowhere to visit..
nvrspk4
26-09-2007, 09:05 PM
New rule added to this thread. Make suggestions on the department please, not on individual members. The thread is your views on Habbox Departments not your criticisms on Habbox Staff Members. Of course constructive criticism or complaints about Staff Members are welcome, but not on the public forums, those should be directed to my inbox :)
Thanks!
H0BJ0B
26-09-2007, 09:30 PM
I'd quite like to see nvrspk4's image in his signature fixed :)
Jokes.
I'd quite like to see more interaction between departments maybe? So maybe make events where graphics do something with radio and there's a whole week with competitions, showcases, stuff like that with the 2 departments orgranising things for it?
Atm every department is on it's own and it'd be quite cool to interact. I know the idea i gave above was kind of something that a themepark would do but ye, more interaction betweem departments.
PenguinFluid
26-09-2007, 09:32 PM
Advertise habboxworld mmore
Catzsy
27-09-2007, 08:07 AM
When hiring managers choose people who have been in the department rather than people who are old school habbox members (jrh2002), more of a management department concern. It is all great having experience, but experience without putting the hard work in before that is not all that great.
I don't regard previous experience as a strict proof of existence as of now, so the character of the discussion does change some what. When I say previous experience I don't mean simply being good at that role, I mean a loving, but unclear, awareness of some object which irresistibly seems to the experiencer as
transcending the self, something transcending all the other dj's of experience, something that can't be pictured or done by anyone else.
I almost class it as a sin to just come through the whole ranks to take up a senior role within HabboxLive, it's not like JRH has a "living existence of importance of his works" to prove his almighty skills. I think that JRH needs to step back and let ,jess, run the department alongside him as she has more experience of the now. It's essential you understand the logic of the now experience rather than the old experience.
If you go to uni now and learn computer science, by the 3rd/4th year of your degree half of the info will be out-dated therefore you wont be greatly up to date, and that can be put into context here with a old manager at habbox.
I would expect Habbox to know better about that, as I think MAD has a few brain cells more than a few of the AGM's here at habbox, which in anycase could mean MAD has 3, or more than likely. Maybe missing a few Neurons or Glial cells.
Just my view,
Sort it out god almighty Adzeh (Sarcasm right there for them who lack an existence of intelligence).
If you read with an observation my post does contains the necessary details you require, if you don't find them let me know and I'll be sure to assist you.
No lets just hire power hungry people with virtually no experience in Admin and moderation who actually do not give a monkeys about Habbox at all but who are expert at bum licking and treading on people to get to the top shall we?:rolleyes: I cannot think of anybody more qualified than James. Habbox is lucky to have him and I am sure people can learn from each other.
Anyway back on topic and congratulations on your promotion Adzeh. I feel that perhaps Articles and News could be a lot less superficial and connect with the members more. Perhaps the subjects could be broadened so that the members actually can't wait to read them! More planning and research to find out what the members would be interested in. The writers are good its just the content that could be spiced up a bit. :)
Also a lot more attention to be paid to HabboxWorld and the departments should treat it equally. Joshuar has been working his hardest and has done a great job but it needs the support of the whole of Habbox.
le harry
27-09-2007, 08:18 AM
I think Management need to get involved with actual Habbo more if you get my drift. I think Habbox is fading out because I guess were a bit old fashioned, I can't explain it well. But you see popular fansites like CH and Habsie etc all have active management and promote there fansite on Habbo and that's why they're active. They do competition's together, proms, daily habbo things whereas it seems the management of Habbox is scarcely seen. A good example could of seen Habbox in the resorts competition as a fansite, that would of been great.
The only thing on Habbo I can really see attracting members are the rare values, since the Help Desk is getting Habbox nowhere, and I can't comment on the events department nor Habboxlive.
Adzeh
27-09-2007, 02:45 PM
+rep Catzy, very helpful, and to all other helpful posts :). Thanks alot.
Ok guys since we have a pretty large number of replies, featuring comments from a lot of people from a lot of different groups, I think I can use this thread as a rough microcosm (sample) of the Habbox visitors' concerns.
From what I can see, the major areas you feel are letting us down (and I agree with quite a few) are:
Rare values: Frequency of values
News + Articles: Nothing particularly appealing about the content / Opinions of visitors need to be gathered
HabboxWorld: More promotion needed
Habbox(Forum + Live?): Skins and designs need changing
HabboxForum: More education on application of rules needed for moderators
Management: Physical presence needed on Habbo from all departments to promote individual areas, and the whole, of Habbox.
If I have misinterpreted anything, please let me know, otherwise continue posting your concerns :).
WarezKid
27-09-2007, 03:10 PM
All fine by me :)
PenguinFluid
27-09-2007, 03:12 PM
+rep Catzy, very helpful, and to all other helpful posts :). Thanks alot.
Ok guys since we have a pretty large number of replies, featuring comments from a lot of people from a lot of different groups, I think I can use this thread as a rough microcosm (sample) of the Habbox visitors' concerns.
From what I can see, the major areas you feel are letting us down (and I agree with quite a few) are:
Rare values: Frequency of values
News + Articles: Nothing particularly appealing about the content / Opinions of visitors need to be gathered
HabboxWorld: More promotion needed
Habbox(Forum + Live?): Skins and designs need changing
HabboxForum: More education on application of rules needed for moderators
Management: Physical presence needed on Habbo from all departments to promote individual areas, and the whole, of Habbox.
If I have misinterpreted anything, please let me know, otherwise continue posting your concerns :).
Maybe get a steady assisnt and manager for each department to help them run smoothly and efficently.
Hire a lot of staff in departments to keep the quantity and perfomance up.
HabboxWorld needs to average OVER 25 users a day hopefully by the end of the year reaching 50+ ?
Perhaps international staff like international Djs could advertise HabboxWorld too and maybe run competitions.
That's what I sometimes do, as I'm a Habbox eXpert there.
You've got most of the points, can't wait to see some further sexyness added to Habbox!
Good luck,
Grig.
Markness.
27-09-2007, 04:09 PM
to add to the posts about HxHD,
I think the department name should be changed, and Called HxIC, or something like that, and just make it a information centre for the whole of habbox, as well as habbo and computer related help
Adzeh
27-09-2007, 04:15 PM
I think to change the name of the desk, would just totally remove it from Habbox all together.
The phrase "HxHD" is one of Habbox's most prominent legacy/history type thing, and, along with the rare values, has been there since basically Habbox started. When you think Habbox, you think Help Desk, Rare Values, Forum as it's main attributes.
I would still stand by the HxHD and simply put its apparent popularity problems down to inconsistent advertising, more than anything else. The old Habbox sites used to contain pages and pages of stuff on the HxHD, as well as banners + adverts all over the place, since HxHD was Habbox's biggest selling point alongside rare values. I am hoping to help work on reintroducing this :).
Paulio
27-09-2007, 04:38 PM
I don’t usually disagree with you Tom but what you said about James isn’t really fair. I agree that people shouldn’t get jobs without working hard for Habbox which allot of people have done, including myself but not when it’s people like James. He basically created Habbox. If it wasn’t for him there would be no forum or no radio. He was the original owner of HabboxRadio (HabboxLive) and he was also the original owner of the forum as well as Assistant Site Manager. I couldn’t think of anyone better to take over the HabboxLive Managers post, he’s like the Wayne Rooney of fan site radios!
What needs improving?
I agree with Rosie about the news and articles and someone said that we should bring back Habbox TV, I totally disagree! Habbox TV was dead for well over a year, ever since the almighty Bi!!y left it. (He was a legend) closing it down was the right thing to do imo, it was just a waste of Sierks money. I also disagree with the people who’re saying that you should remove the Help Desk as it’s part of Habboxs history. All it needs is someone who has time to run it and doesn’t have like a billion and one things to do when he/she comes online.
When hiring managers choose people who have been in the department rather than people who are old school habbox members (jrh2002), more of a management department concern. It is all great having experience, but experience without putting the hard work in before that is not all that great.
I don't regard previous experience as a strict proof of existence as of now, so the character of the discussion does change some what. When I say previous experience I don't mean simply being good at that role, I mean a loving, but unclear, awareness of some object which irresistibly seems to the experiencer as
transcending the self, something transcending all the other dj's of experience, something that can't be pictured or done by anyone else.
I almost class it as a sin to just come through the whole ranks to take up a senior role within HabboxLive, it's not like JRH has a "living existence of importance of his works" to prove his almighty skills. I think that JRH needs to step back and let ,jess, run the department alongside him as she has more experience of the now. It's essential you understand the logic of the now experience rather than the old experience.
If you go to uni now and learn computer science, by the 3rd/4th year of your degree half of the info will be out-dated therefore you wont be greatly up to date, and that can be put into context here with a old manager at habbox.
I would expect Habbox to know better about that, as I think MAD has a few brain cells more than a few of the AGM's here at habbox, which in anycase could mean MAD has 3, or more than likely. Maybe missing a few Neurons or Glial cells.
Just my view,
Sort it out god almighty Adzeh (Sarcasm right there for them who lack an existence of intelligence).
If you read with an observation my post does contains the necessary details you require, if you don't find them let me know and I'll be sure to assist you.
GoldenMerc
27-09-2007, 05:09 PM
Yes HabboxTV was dead but i dont see why it can't have its own little section on Habbox like HxTV in the navbar and it has like a list of all the movie's,Their was no need to destroy the department,We were on the run back to getting a few good films but then again i doubt anyone wants John back
today
27-09-2007, 05:13 PM
Just showing the BEST movie's would be alright tbh...
GoldenMerc
27-09-2007, 05:16 PM
Well why not just let the department keep going,Just not have a site and use habbox as a homepage,I dont see their being any harm.
Dan2nd
27-09-2007, 05:18 PM
Yes HabboxTV was dead but i dont see why it can't have its own little section on Habbox like HxTV in the navbar and it has like a list of all the movie's,Their was no need to destroy the department,We were on the run back to getting a few good films but then again i doubt anyone wants John back
I think if HxTv had the right people with the right attitude it could have worked I'd also like to see it back but I can't see it happening unfortunetly =[ HxTv was my favourite department I had alot of fun there.. =]
GoldenMerc
27-09-2007, 05:20 PM
So did i,I enjoyed making that final episode but then they closed it ;[
Dan2nd
27-09-2007, 05:22 PM
I thought the old episodes were being put up on the main site anyway? can't find them =l
GoldenMerc
27-09-2007, 05:52 PM
Apparently the whole Hxtv directory was put on it,Thats what we were told in the Hxtv staff area before it got deleted
sierk1
27-09-2007, 07:56 PM
I agree with this a lot. 8Freak8 when he was manager noticed this, and tried to do something about it. I myself hardly go on Habbo anymore, and I don't know about ---MAD--- . I think other fansites get a lot of their popularity from the owner / manager who is also a popular habbo. Maybe we should have weekly events organised by the (General) Management themselves, so that habbos can see them and talk to them on Habbo.
I think Management need to get involved with actual Habbo more if you get my drift. I think Habbox is fading out because I guess were a bit old fashioned, I can't explain it well. But you see popular fansites like CH and Habsie etc all have active management and promote there fansite on Habbo and that's why they're active. They do competition's together, proms, daily habbo things whereas it seems the management of Habbox is scarcely seen. A good example could of seen Habbox in the resorts competition as a fansite, that would of been great.
The only thing on Habbo I can really see attracting members are the rare values, since the Help Desk is getting Habbox nowhere, and I can't comment on the events department nor Habboxlive.
I don't agree with this. jrh2002 was always one of the hardest working staff that I have ever seen, already from the beginning when he was moderating all the trade forums by himself. He started with this vBulletin forum, and also has a lot of experience with running radio sites. I also don't think jrh will have problems with adjusting to the current situation, he has always stayed involved with websites and radios.
When hiring managers choose people who have been in the department rather than people who are old school habbox members (jrh2002), more of a management department concern. It is all great having experience, but experience without putting the hard work in before that is not all that great.
I don't regard previous experience as a strict proof of existence as of now, so the character of the discussion does change some what. When I say previous experience I don't mean simply being good at that role, I mean a loving, but unclear, awareness of some object which irresistibly seems to the experiencer as
transcending the self, something transcending all the other dj's of experience, something that can't be pictured or done by anyone else.
I almost class it as a sin to just come through the whole ranks to take up a senior role within HabboxLive, it's not like JRH has a "living existence of importance of his works" to prove his almighty skills. I think that JRH needs to step back and let ,jess, run the department alongside him as she has more experience of the now. It's essential you understand the logic of the now experience rather than the old experience.
If you go to uni now and learn computer science, by the 3rd/4th year of your degree half of the info will be out-dated therefore you wont be greatly up to date, and that can be put into context here with a old manager at habbox.
I would expect Habbox to know better about that, as I think MAD has a few brain cells more than a few of the AGM's here at habbox, which in anycase could mean MAD has 3, or more than likely. Maybe missing a few Neurons or Glial cells.
Just my view,
Sort it out god almighty Adzeh (Sarcasm right there for them who lack an existence of intelligence).
If you read with an observation my post does contains the necessary details you require, if you don't find them let me know and I'll be sure to assist you.
I also think that was the plan. It would be good if there could come a habboxtv page on habbox.com showing the old episodes, and also offer people a chance to send in new animations, that we will show for them. A bit like our alterations pages.
I thought the old episodes were being put up on the main site anyway? can't find them =l
VPSwow
27-09-2007, 08:04 PM
Ok this post is to defend the Rare Values Department.
Due to recent people leaving aswell as the previous manager left and Lost-shark took over controll things were hard. Lost-shark did an excellent job of taking over and soon got the department working hard. The department is also in the process of hiring a new Assistant Manager to help get everything back under control and to make the department run more efficiently.
The values are getting updated frequently now things have carmed down and with a new assistant manager it will be sorted a lot quicker.
Sorry if this is counted as spam but i thought i would alert the Habbox community who use the rare values.
Thanks Cheekykarl
Head Rare Values Reporter
-:Undertaker:-
27-09-2007, 08:07 PM
HxHD is finished, as it's been said Help Desks are a part of the past now. You can try and revive it however many times you like, just as has been attempted numerous times even from when I was staff.
HxHD may be part of Habbox's history, but it's time to let go of it, it's failing and I just cannot at all see it being popular again.
A Habbox Casino would be more of a hit, it would have to have an excellent design and maybe with a very rare super in it to increase popularity, casinos are good meeting points, they have kind of replaced talk rooms and help desks.
In reply to the post above, you cannot defend it anymore, since March it has extremly slowed down, last time seasonal values were updated was september the 8th - now that's poor, you can no longer defend it, yes Lost-Shark may have been busy but it's up to Management to find someone to update in the meantime, I have never known the values to be so slowly updated ever since I heard of Habbox.
sierk1
27-09-2007, 08:09 PM
The problem with casinos is that sometimes dealers scam or arguments arise, and people might blame Habbox. But maybe we can give it a try.
HxHD is finished, as it's been said Help Desks are a part of the past now. You can try and revive it however many times you like, just as has been attempted numerous times even from when I was staff.
HxHD may be part of Habbox's history, but it's time to let go of it, it's failing and I just cannot at all see it being popular again.
A Habbox Casino would be more of a hit, it would have to have an excellent design and maybe with a very rare super in it to increase popularity, casinos are good meeting points, they have kind of replaced talk rooms and help desks.
-:Undertaker:-
27-09-2007, 08:12 PM
The problem with casinos is that sometimes dealers scam or arguments arise, and people might blame Habbox. But maybe we can give it a try.
I think perhaps a warning should be put on the Habbox website and on stickies in the room, however you still have the morons who say it's a sites fault.
Give it a go, see what happens :)
Immenseman
27-09-2007, 08:28 PM
I think the help desk can be revived. I know people say help desks are 'dead' but I think with the right amount of staff showing commitment to the desk it can do a lot better. It's done better these last two weeks then it was about two months ago, for sure.
WarezKid
27-09-2007, 08:41 PM
The help desk it alot busyer then last 4 months ago, it going up hill now :P
---MAD---
27-09-2007, 08:44 PM
I am really liking what people are posting, this is exactly the sort of thing adzeh and myself are after. Thanks to everyone who has spent some time posting here, it is very much appreciated :).
-:Undertaker:-
27-09-2007, 08:45 PM
The help desk it alot busyer then last 4 months ago, it going up hill now :P
Whenever I go in there for Jake, it's just got staff in..
VPSwow
27-09-2007, 08:47 PM
I think their could be more VIP competitions. We hardly get any :(
Immenseman
27-09-2007, 08:54 PM
Whenever I go in there for Jake, it's just got staff in..
There is hardly ever more then 4/5 members of staff in there. At 6PM which would be classed as a 'Peak Time' it has at least 10+ people in whereas a few months ago it would have 1 or 2 or be empty. Like Adzeh said if it got advertised on the habbox site itself the popularity of the desk could increase quite a bit.
today
27-09-2007, 09:01 PM
I think sorting the "graphics badge" out, so its on the line below as its really annoying, a simple error but really gets on my nerves.
Dan2nd
27-09-2007, 09:08 PM
yeah like Jake has said it is improving slowly I think people need to understand we can't just wave a magic wand and make it super popular like it was in the old days over night , but I think with alot of patience and above all dedication I can see HxHD being alot more active over the coming weeks.
Adzeh
27-09-2007, 09:23 PM
Ok guys this is really really good stuff.
I'm going to leave this thread open for another day or two and by then we should have basically exhausted the majority of comments, and should be able to start building a much wider picture of what needs to be done.
I will sort rep out for those who still need it from me, once it is closed :).
---MAD---
27-09-2007, 09:47 PM
I think perhaps a warning should be put on the Habbox website and on stickies in the room, however you still have the morons who say it's a sites fault.
Give it a go, see what happens :)
We could give it a go, I agree. I think it would be a nice thing to have although people will blame Habbox if the dealer scams when there is usually very little one can do when it comes to casinos.
The Professor
27-09-2007, 10:33 PM
I think their could be more VIP competitions. We hardly get any :(
In the VIP competition that is currently running, there have been 6 entries. I know there are far more than 6 active VIP members on the forum. The demand for it doesn't appear to be there, and without a large number of willing participants there isn't a good reason to make the competitons more frequent.
Could you say what you want from VIP competitions and what you think would encourage members to enter?
Alex
Jazza
27-09-2007, 10:35 PM
The way some department are run need thinking about, it seems that as soon as someone is fired/quits then someone else is moved up to replace them, this means that sometimes new staff members get higher than some other staff ever managed, eg the RV department, when a load of people left after the unfair firing of Dan lots of staff were sent to really high ranks before they were experienced. This also happened more recently with a load of mode being moved up to s-mods before they were ready.
The obvious solution would be to not try to instantly replace people when their position becomes available, just leave things as they are until someone shows they are capable for the position.
H0BJ0B
27-09-2007, 11:05 PM
If you started a casino, how would you control who becomes dealers etc...?
Regarding the HelpDesk going uphill??? It's going downhill. 4 months ago I worked there and we had more people in there then we do now. Keep the helpdesk, it is also a nice place to hang out.
JoeyK.
28-09-2007, 01:53 AM
I think their could be more VIP competitions. We hardly get any :(
As Alex said, there really isn't very much of a demand for VIP Competitions. However, in the future we plan to have at least one per month -- I have noticed that there haven't been consistant Competitions in the VIP section, but hopefully the new VIP Competitions Staff will have more frequent (and inventive) Competitions :)
PenguinFluid
28-09-2007, 08:35 AM
We could give it a go, I agree. I think it would be a nice thing to have although people will blame Habbox if the dealer scams when there is usually very little one can do when it comes to casinos.
Either give only habbox management rights or charge like 2t forthem
As Alex said, there really isn't very much of a demand for VIP Competitions. However, in the future we plan to have at least one per month -- I have noticed that there haven't been consistant Competitions in the VIP section, but hopefully the new VIP Competitions Staff will have more frequent (and inventive) Competitions :)
Touche
Pat McGroin
28-09-2007, 09:04 AM
Either give only habbox management rights or charge like 2t forthem
Or don't give out rights and let people buy into dealers..
H0BJ0B
28-09-2007, 12:12 PM
Or hire Casino Moderators who are trusted Habbox staff and make sure atlest one is in there at all times and they have a list on forum of who has dealer rights and then the mods let them in..
Immenseman
28-09-2007, 03:02 PM
Regarding the HelpDesk going uphill??? It's going downhill. 4 months ago I worked there and we had more people in there then we do now. Keep the helpdesk, it is also a nice place to hang out.
Clearly you haven't visited it regulary since you left then. About two months ago it was 'dead' but in the last two or three weeks it has gained popularity and is busy most nights at peak time. I suppose you wouldn't know that mind. ;)
Adzeh
29-09-2007, 05:02 PM
Ok I've asked for this thread to be closed now.
Thank you to everybody for such a mature and constructive discussion :).
joshuar
29-09-2007, 05:33 PM
Thank you for the feedback :)
I've locked the thread instead ;)
Earthquake
29-09-2007, 07:12 PM
So I've decided to post here.
Forum Moderators:
All moderators employed and current are all fantastic and some are fresh on face and you wouldnt think they would become one but they do a great job keeping us safe, I wanna stress the fact some members of the forum have been giving some members a bad time on their opinion on the persons rank of being a moderator, Example Matmeister and devil.dont.cry, I never knew mattmeister that much and I use to think he was just one of those people in the spam forum but he seems a really nice person who wants to keep for the forum safe, And some of his friends have been downgrading him since he has become a moderator what really is nasty, I think they should be telling him what a great job he has been doing. And for devil.wont.cry, His one of my great friends online and I don't know him that well, I love his personality and he can make anyone his friend, But because he dont seem to want to post all profeshionally doesn't make him bad staff, All of his edits are 100% profeshional and he does a really good job, It came to my attention some members in the spam forum have actully been rude to him since has become a moderator, OK I know getting critisisum comes with the job on habbox but I'm sure something can be done to these people who have to be so rude.
Forum Super Moderators:
I haven't really got to say much for forum super moderators, Well maybe the angerment of constant infractions :P but that just shows what a great job their doing *Cough!* Nick- *Cough!* All staff who are super moderators all deserved it and the department really needs nothing changed, Maybe a few more but theirs the fact you don't really need more.
Graphics Designers:
The department seemed dead when I was a graphics designer and not many projects were completed when needed to be, The department needs more boosting on the job and the satisfaction of knowing your a graphics department, Now being a graphics designer I know how it felt, I wasn't really satisfied of the atmosphere of this, Graphic designers need a boost and maybe more credit for their work, Maybe mini announcements on who made what, Like if someone makes a new banner a thread is created thanking them and feedback on the graphic, It just seemed boring being a graphics designer if you ask me, Liven it up more.
HabboxLive:
I have not got a problem with any of the DJ's no more, all I have a problem with is the popularity of the actual radio, I understand alot of listeners are listening but thats mostly because of the fact theirs a live stream on Habbox.com now because before that was introduced I remember feeling sorry for a DJ with just 3 listeners, Maybe promote the radio more and move the radio thing at the bottom of the habboxforum moved to the top so members and guests can actually see it to promote it more, Maybe the radio DJ's could hold party's like clubhabbo do on habbo, More raids and more room competitions to giveaway, This 1) boost popularity of habbox 2) boost the atmosphere of habbox, Because we all know Habbox shalt I say it, become old.
Help Desk:
The help desk department seems to be dead every time I go their, Firstly its mostly members of habbox who visit the room which isn't the point of it really, Its sopose to be for the whole habbo community to come in and get some help, But at the moment their isn't much happening and it seems some of the staff in their just chat with people and giving random answers with help questions
Quote from Galaxay & Some girl asking a question.
Q: How do I burn a CD?
A: Stick it into the lodge fire ;]!
You need to recruit more dedicated members of Habbox and get staff from habbo itself by advertising on habbo it self in competitions/events that applications are open, I have respect for many members in that department so I cant say much but mostly staff are either on the rollers on brb or not their, Immenseman and galaxay seems to be their mostly from my time visiting the room, Yes nvrspk4 has visited the room but I think he needs to come their more often, This is when he visits habbox, So I think he should actually go on every time and monitor the room on a clone or either a pretending needing help habbo.
News Reporters:
The department is great, Their was a time on habbox when I wanted to read the news posted on their as much as I can, Then the news system slowed down and not much was posted, But now it seems to have got back onto track with great reporters willing to write more than just two lines on their report, Giving more information and specific details of that report, Their isn't really anything to change its a fantastic department with 100% professional staff.
Productions Staff:
I don't understand this department that much so I can't really say sorry.
Rare Values Reporters:
Their isn't much to say for the rare value department, Its the key to habbox's popularity, All I am puzzled with who's the manager? I always have thought since -:Undertaker:- got removed Immenseman has, Their is also the fact on the rare value department being a bit over priced on the credit values, For example: 2cs for 20 credits, OK well lets use the credit sack, You need to think into what the person will be using the sack for, Their isn't much actually anything they can buy in norms with 20 credits, And you cannot say they can buy a rare with it because most rares are priced at 25 credits, And its very rarely seasonal/miscalculates furniture comes out. I know theirs a problem with the community of habbo understanding as they set the values and the reporters report back, But more encouragement on judgment on the credit values, Maybe recruit people to go round possibly ask the writers to ask civilians of habbo on their views of the values and what would they buy stuff for instead of just watching what people buy and sell.
Room Reviewers:
I don't really understand this department that well, I don't understand why theirs just one staff member in this department, iSocks. So does this mean the applications are open? I think more staff need to be employed and the department needs more popularity put into it.
Writers:
I haven't really got to know the department very well but I have read a few articles from Professor-Alex and they seem okay, Their really isn't much to change so this is all I have to say for now.
Habbox, General Management & Sierk:
I thought I would keep this for last, Habbox in whole is one of the largest websites habbo have ever encounted in, Maybe larger then Habbotimes actully yes larger then habbotimes, Habbox whold the key to keep Habbo UK rare vaules alive, And this is one of the key things of habbox, I think the general management should sit down with the rare vaule manager(s) and discuss the future of the department, Maybe introduce more features to this maybe some sort of marquee at the top of habbox listing the normal rare vaules example:
http://uploadpicz.com/images/I68ASJ9.png
Also diffrent skin colours for habbox, Or possibily a whole new layout, As you can see habbox current layout is a profeshional Non-habbo look clutterd with some habbo images, Maybe Habbox should recruit someone or create their own Habbox more habbo-ey layout, Check out Habbotimes.de a layout like that but much diffrent, Like clubhabbo.net have, A very habbo like layout, Habbox need to attract more members if they would like to keep their popularity status because tbh everyone has to leave habbo some time and habbox will slowly dissapear or just become a legendairy site outbeated by another site offering more than habbox can.
Moving on: Management need to get involved more on habbo, As said in a similar post posted Habbox general management need to get involved more with habbo giving daily competitions, Chat shows, Even live interviews with staff members because being real ---mad--- needs to get more known like 8freak8 was, Just like nvrspk4 needs to get his help desk known like 8f8's, Its time you got out their more on habbo not inrl, Host/play in events and hold daily competitions for everyone to get involved with.
Sierk, I understand he has had his time on habbo and now is slowly finishing with it but he needs to get involved even more with habbox, I have been told about his time behind the scenes but its actully time for his time to get infront of the scene, Its time for him to get to know his staff more and even the members.
The Professor
29-09-2007, 07:41 PM
You forgot the comps dept :O
And the articles dept has changed somewhat since iSocks was hired, writers can now write in whatever area they like i.e. articles, room reviews, interviews. iSocks's permissions are "left over" as it were from the old system, he is a writer just like the rest of the team. Although he still specialises in room reviews out of choice, so I don't see much reason to have them changed atm.
dannyisnotamazing
29-09-2007, 07:42 PM
jesus crist
-:Undertaker:-
29-09-2007, 07:45 PM
The Rare Values Department concept, which was mainly created by Smiddy1234 is a fine system and it works, if Rare Value Reporters went around ASKING people what they thought the values should be, well no one would trade at the prices.
Credits are NOT overpriced, they do go for around about 20 for 2 CS, so why would Habbox change it?
Earthquake
29-09-2007, 07:46 PM
You forgot the comps dept :O
And the articles dept has changed somewhat since iSocks was hired, writers can now write in whatever area they like i.e. articles, room reviews, interviews. iSocks's permissions are "left over" as it were from the old system, he is a writer just like the rest of the team. Although he still specialises in room reviews out of choice, so I don't see much reason to have them changed atm.
Oh dammit! I done by ''View habbox staff list'' :(
And lol danny
Titch
29-09-2007, 07:47 PM
wow, u didnt **** em off that much.
I agree with views about habbox needs a complete re-do with skin, mnaby whole new website look would be nice!
+ rep for views
Dan2nd
29-09-2007, 08:02 PM
Thanks for your views on HxHD Earthquake =] I'm constantly on a mission to find new staff and try to keep attendence up. A couple of weeks ago yes, I'd say HxHD was in the dead stage with zero attendence and no visitors what so ever. We have definetly improved though as we now normally get quite alot of people in at the peek period of 5pm - 7pm on week days.
If you witness a staff member giving bad advice or not giving very good 'customer service' please PM nvrspk4 or I and we'll deal with that person personally. thanks again and + rep
Earthquake
29-09-2007, 08:05 PM
Thanks for your views on HxHD Earthquake =] I'm constantly on a mission to find new staff and try to keep attendence up. A couple of weeks ago yes, I'd say HxHD was in the dead stage with zero attendence and no visitors what so ever. We have definetly improved though as we now normally get quite alot of people in at the peek period of 5pm - 7pm on week days.
If you witness a staff member giving bad advice or not giving very good 'customer service' please PM nvrspk4 or I and we'll deal with that person personally. thanks again and + rep
Cheers Dan2nd comment means alot.
jesus
29-09-2007, 08:14 PM
There's one particular super-mod who isn't active on Habbo or this forum.
I don't really see that as fair.
Adzeh
29-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Absolutely fantastic post and a lot more mature, un-sarcastic, and constructive than I am used to seeing from you. +rep for definate.
You have come up with some really good feedback and comments of each individual departments with positive and negative, and also some excellent ideas on how they can be improved.
This post will help us out alot. Thanks very much.
Unfortunately I'll need to get this thread closed, as it was just an addition to the previous thread and we don't particularly want another huge discussion about it. Take nothing away from the post content though, brilliant.
Sammeth.
29-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Tbh I wanted the Productions name to be changed to Shows as we do talkshow on habbo, but NOOOOOO! :(
Anyway, really good post! I love your idea about the marquee'ing rares :D Well done <3
Adzeh
30-09-2007, 03:44 PM
Ok guys I have managed to get together a full to-do list for the departments and you should soon hopefully see some difference in the different department areas. There may be subtle changes that you may not notice, but I will be raising points about every area of concern put forward in this thread.
The first thing to be tackled is HxWorld promotions, and we will now be having input from Articles, HxLive, and Hx Productions in order to promote HabboxWorld :).
I'd like to take this opportunity once again to thank you all, keep a wary eye out for changes that may have something to do with your posts :).
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