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-Xiangu-
18-10-2007, 04:55 PM
i think after reading some, posts people can be racist and get it edited by mods to say *removed* but i think racist comments (no matter what habbox members) should have your account perm banned just my view

whoooosh
18-10-2007, 04:56 PM
racists comments should be a perm ban for deffo

The Professor
18-10-2007, 04:59 PM
Yeah, harsher punishments for racism/sexism/homophobia/things like that sounds good to me. An infraction just doesn't have the same effect as it used to.

msb.
18-10-2007, 04:59 PM
I agree tbh, not long ago, sum1 said summit racist to me but it was removed :S

Then they sent me an racist message, I forwarded it to a member of staff and that person got temp ban.

jesus
18-10-2007, 05:01 PM
i think its unfair to get a perm ban straight away depending on the context. if it was like a full blown racist comment then they should be banned, but if they didnt mean it seriously or didnt think it would be classed as a racist comment, then a warning is enough.

jrh2002
18-10-2007, 05:06 PM
i think its unfair to get a perm ban straight away depending on the context. if it was like a full blown racist comment then they should be banned, but if they didnt mean it seriously or didnt think it would be classed as a racist comment, then a warning is enough.

I agree :) or maybe a temp ban for the first offence?
Most of the time they will make a new account and return :O educating them and giving them a chance is always better than an instant ban.

Personally I don't care what peoples views are on anything including racism as long as they stick to the rules and dont try and force their views on me.

The Professor
18-10-2007, 05:09 PM
I agree :) or maybe a temp ban for the first offence?
Most of the time they will make a new account and return :O educating them and giving them a chance is always better than an instant ban.

Personally I don't care what peoples views are on anything including racism as long as they stick to the rules and dont try and force their views on me.

Well I know I wouldn't want anyone on the forum who purposely offended people because of something like their colour/sex/sexuality. I dont think a temp ban would have the same effect, any form of discrimination s unacceptable and imo habbox should be seen as zero-tolerance in that dept.

:Liam
18-10-2007, 05:12 PM
First perhaps the moderator could check with the person the comment was said to if they were offence or whether it was a personal joke between friends. But any form of discrimination should be perm ban.

joshuar
18-10-2007, 05:12 PM
I think someone being racist to cause offense should be taken off, and perm banned.

Someone putting their point across (not racist wise) should be allowed, eg for religion, sexual orientation etc. But not to offend people at all, just to put their point across.

-Xiangu-
18-10-2007, 05:12 PM
that means racist people and sexist etc etc will be given a 2nd chance when its not right and you shouldnt joke about racism anyway so a warning or a temp ban isnt enough, a perm ban should be inforced upon any racism

today
18-10-2007, 05:13 PM
if your racist you'll not get put into prision, just warned.

Why bother..

-Xiangu-
18-10-2007, 05:13 PM
yes joshuar thats perectly acceptable as long as they are not offensive

and hollywood

we should bother because it will show that discrimination is not tollerated full stop

today
18-10-2007, 05:16 PM
but its going to happen if you like it or not, i discriminate and tbh, i dont really give two crap's.

If i want to, i will.

GommeInc
18-10-2007, 05:16 PM
Banning is pointless now, I go with educating them about it.

today
18-10-2007, 05:17 PM
Banning's always been pointless lol.

They just come back anyway

jesus
18-10-2007, 05:19 PM
even if it was a joke between friends, someone might report it as offensive just to get the other person banned (for example if they didnt like the person)

i think a temp ban is acceptable as jrh said, it will teach them a lesson instead of just getting rid of them

GommeInc
18-10-2007, 05:21 PM
But in the mean time they could make a new account so then you'll have 2 accounts to deal with when the temp ban has expired.

today
18-10-2007, 05:22 PM
Yuh (: No matter what you do it wont work, banning -> they return, ban ip -> change ip.

So yer know..

GommeInc
18-10-2007, 05:25 PM
I suppose banning is the only option though, it'll have to be an on going chain of banning. Eventually one person would get bored.

:Liam
18-10-2007, 05:25 PM
even if it was a joke between friends, someone might report it as offensive just to get the other person banned (for example if they didnt like the person)

i think a temp ban is acceptable as jrh said, it will teach them a lesson instead of just getting rid of them

well as I said, If the moderator PM'ed the person the comment was said to, to check whether they took offense or whether it was a joke and then it would progress from there to a Permanent Ban or not.

VPSwow
18-10-2007, 05:30 PM
I think it should be harsher but maybe a temp ban on first offence depending on how harsh it was.

-Xiangu-
18-10-2007, 05:33 PM
by temp banning and inracting you don't educate them it makes them think they can do what they want. if you ban the account permenently then they will also be educated that it is wrong what they did and if they do it again they will receive a harsh consiquence

GommeInc
18-10-2007, 05:48 PM
It depends entirely on the person. Temp banning will educate them if they are misled individuals, but if they are the same person each time, then banning will work.

hobo
18-10-2007, 05:51 PM
this is stupid.

making a racist comment is no different from calling someone or stupid - it's insulting someone for something they cannot help/
it's stupid to ban someone for it, if you start that everyone will end up getting banned for every rule break.

-Xiangu-
18-10-2007, 05:55 PM
this is stupid.

making a racist comment is no different from calling someone or stupid - it's insulting someone for something they cannot help/
it's stupid to ban someone for it, if you start that everyone will end up getting banned for every rule break.


its nothing like calling someone stupid actually, i find that post rather stupid. racism is discrimination which is against the law and stupid is just a childish insult

jrh2002
18-10-2007, 05:56 PM
If you give them a temp ban they might realise what they did was wrong.
If they get a perm ban they will probably come back very annoyed and flood the forumss with racist comments.

If habbo have a zero tolerence policy then perhaps that would force their fansites to follow the same policy? It used to be a 24 hour ban for racism and it would be longer for repeat offenders. Not sure what it is now but the last person I reported for racism has been back on so it was a week at the most.

Aflux
18-10-2007, 06:04 PM
Whose to say what's racist?

Plank
18-10-2007, 06:29 PM
i think nearly everyone who is old enough to go on the internet (and on here) is already educated enough to know that racism is wrong. anyone who posts a racism comment is likely to be someone messing around who keeps returning on different accounts (like greco in the past) therefore i think changing the way it is will be pointless

Catzsy
18-10-2007, 07:11 PM
There is a 2 point infraction for bullying/racism as to a 1 point for insults which is repeated usually leads to a ban If I remember correctly and it hasn't changed.

Camy
18-10-2007, 07:52 PM
I think you shouldn't bother with this because eventually, as in real life, the white people will feel discriminated against if racist comments are made to them and nothing will be done.

This is a forum for a habbo fansite, I don't think we should be worrying about such complex issues.

-Xiangu-
18-10-2007, 08:24 PM
I think you shouldn't bother with this because eventually, as in real life, the white people will feel discriminated against if racist comments are made to them and nothing will be done.

This is a forum for a habbo fansite, I don't think we should be worrying about such complex issues.

if such issues are arrising on here as there are some racists on this forum why should these issues not be adressed?

Mr.OSH
18-10-2007, 08:31 PM
There is a 2 point infraction for bullying/racism as to a 1 point for insults which is repeated usually leads to a ban If I remember correctly and it hasn't changed.

Correct, if someone is racist either quite a few times or over a longer period of time or alternatively is racist deliberately over a shorter period of time this normally leads to a ban. As you said as these infractions count for 2 points this usual leads to a ban quicker if this is persistent and racism is not tolerated and more severe punishments are likely to be put into place for a member who does this regularly. Normally, providing the racism is not in large amounts a member would be temporary banned and then if they continued banned permanently for this offence occurring multiple times. Don't worry as Habbox's moderation team take racism on the forum seriously and if you see it happen then report it straight away and the member in question will be dealt with.

T0M
18-10-2007, 08:32 PM
i completely disagree, racism is the same as any other insult, too many things these days are blown out of proportion

Personally i dont see how the 'N' word is offensive, black people use it all the time its pathetic

Mr.OSH
18-10-2007, 08:43 PM
i completely disagree, racism is the same as any other insult, too many things these days are blown out of proportion

Personally i dont see how the 'N' word is offensive, black people use it all the time its pathetic

I respect your opinion but in the real world racism is a much worse offence than most other insults. For example football teams can be kicked out of the champions league or not allowed to have fans attend there matches if racist comments are used in games were as other insults are taken seriously but racism is normally the next level up as people can take great offence from it and it encourages the person saying the comment feels they are a better person than the person he comment is directed at which destroys equal society and can upset people severely. Racism is not tolerated anywhere and it is the same on this forum.

-Xiangu-
18-10-2007, 09:04 PM
i completely disagree, racism is the same as any other insult, too many things these days are blown out of proportion

Personally i dont see how the 'N' word is offensive, black people use it all the time its pathetic

its not at all the same as any insult why cant you people understand that, racism is not the same as any regular insult, i respect your view that you don't take the "n" word offensive though and im glad that the forum does take it seriously jay but i don't think it is dealt with in a suitable way

Camy
18-10-2007, 09:23 PM
Hes banned now :/

Mr.OSH
18-10-2007, 09:36 PM
its not at all the same as any insult why cant you people understand that, racism is not the same as any regular insult, i respect your view that you don't take the "n" word offensive though and im glad that the forum does take it seriously jay but i don't think it is dealt with in a suitable way

Hmmm I can understand when you are saying but we can't be too harsh on members. I suppose members who break this and show they clearly mean it can be dealt with in a more immediate way but I don't think it's fair to ban someone straight away if they make a mistake like that as throwing more serious punishments out like permanent bans will not help it would simply encourage members to return on other accounts, angry and mad they were banned for one offence.

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