Thread reopened?

[-:Undertaker:-]

A thread was recently closed in the World News forums because the word '****' was used, this isn't racist because it's not filtered and second of all is 'Yank' racist to americans? no it isn't, the **** word is a shortend version of Pakistani. I really don't see why a good thread like that was closed, especially when people can give their views there.

Could we have it reopened?

EDIT; It has recently been filtered because before I saw it unfiltered?

[flux]

It is filtered, lol.

[GoldenMerc]

Its oviously filtered now !

[Frisky]

What word was it?

[-:Undertaker:-]

What word was it?

The word for pakistani.

[Axel]

Starts with a P.

[Nemo]

What word was it?Racist term for pakistani

Racist in my eyes, considering its been shouted at me in a racist context.

[Dopamine]

It's a racist remark to those from that part of the world. It should be filtered.

[The Professor]

the **** word is a shortend version of Pakistani.

If that doesn't tell you what the word is, I don't know what will :rolleyes:

The word itself isn't offensive but the amount of immature people on the forum mean it is often used in an offensive manner. Instead of going through the whole debate of whether or not it should be unfiltered, it'd probably be a better idea to ignore it and use the word "pakistani" if you ever find yourself in that situation.

[Mandez]

why is it filtered,

technically they are.. p'''s.

its just slang for p'''stani you know?
yank -american
limey - british
paddy - irish.

people take if offensivly i dunno why but its what they are :S

[Axel]

why is it filtered,

technically they are.. p'''s.

its just slang for p'''stani you know?
yank -american
limey - british
paddy - irish.

people take if offensivly i dunno why but its what they are :S

The way people like you, and many other people use it, is as an insult.

[Wizzdom]

If that doesn't tell you what the word is, I don't know what will :rolleyes:

The word itself isn't offensive but the amount of immature people on the forum mean it is often used in an offensive manner. Instead of going through the whole debate of whether or not it should be unfiltered, it'd probably be a better idea to ignore it and use the word "pakistani" if you ever find yourself in that situation.

Exactly, most people use it in a racist term.

[Frisky]

Limey? wth.

& erm P..i is racist

[-:Undertaker:-]

If that word is considered offensive, then surely we should Filter the word 'Gay' as it's a shorter slang word for Homosexual?

[flux]

If that word is considered offensive, then surely we should Filter the word 'Gay' as it's a shorter slang word for Homosexual?
They havn't filtered it because it's a slang word, they filtered it because it's used as a racist term more often than not.

[Wizzdom]

If that word is considered offensive, then surely we should Filter the word 'Gay' as it's a shorter slang word for Homosexual?

Again, it will depend on the context.

[Mandez]

yeah -:undertaker:-

anyway my granddad and great grand dad died for this country and its freedom,

why arnt i allowed my freedom of speech like everyone else in a capitalist or democratic country w'e?

[Nemo]

If that word is considered offensive, then surely we should Filter the word 'Gay' as it's a shorter slang word for Homosexual?It's not racist, also gay is what some people are. Its slang as you said.

[Mandez]

It's not racist, also gay is what some people are. Its slang as you said.

lol so pakistani's arnt ****'s?

[-:Undertaker:-]

They havn't filtered it because it's a slang word, they filtered it because it's used as a racist term more often than not.

Surely if it's slang and racist then no one in their right mind would be offended?


yeah -:undertaker:-

anyway my granddad and great grand dad died for this country and its freedom,

why arnt i allowed my freedom of speech like everyone else in a capitalist or democratic country w'e?

The politically correct crew doesn't agree with it.

What normal people of this forum should do is, if we are referred to as 'Gay', 'Yank', 'Aussie' etc then we should all have periods over it and it may be filtered?

[Mandez]

oh yeah the PC crew forgot about them.

[Nemo]

lol so pakistani's arnt ****'s? They are but i find it offensive as its used as a racist term

[Mandez]

oh yeah your a pakistani lol

i dont know any pakistanis that why i always say paci.
everyone i know in real life is white or chinese i think.

[-:Undertaker:-]

They are but i find it offensive as its used as a racist term

Are you from Pakistan?

[Axel]

I don't know many people who use gay as an insult, however with this p word, 9/10 times it is used as an insult.

[Elliott$]

If that doesn't tell you what the word is, I don't know what will :rolleyes:

The word itself isn't offensive but the amount of immature people on the forum mean it is often used in an offensive manner. Instead of going through the whole debate of whether or not it should be unfiltered, it'd probably be a better idea to ignore it and use the word "pakistani" if you ever find yourself in that situation.

Well if you say *REMOVED* - that will :)

Edited by Elkaa (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter.

[Nemo]

Are you from Pakistan?My mum is so basically i am, yes.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't know many people who use gay as an insult, however with this p word, 9/10 times it is used as an insult.

Where did you pull these statistics out of the air from?

Gay is used as an insult incase you haven't noticed, people go 'that rare is gay' and things like that. Now if I took offence to every word on thsi forum i'd be slitting myself 24/7

[Mandez]

anyway if gay is used as a insult

on habbo its always

GAY BAR YUM YUM
and not
HOMOSEXUAL BAR COME ON IN AND GET BUMMED.

[-:Undertaker:-]

My mum is so basically i am, yes.

Then I don't see why you are offended at the mention of your mums country, you should be proud that Pakistan is one of the most free nations in the middle east, not ashamed.

I am not ashamed to be a 'Englishman' :)

[Catzsy]

Then I don't see why you are offended at the mention of your mums country, you should be proud that Pakistan is one of the most free nations in the middle east, not ashamed.

I am not ashamed to be a 'Englishman' :)

Trouble is Dan that the shortened version of the word Pakistani is extremely offensive to the people of that nation and this is supported by almost every dictionary you look in in which 100% say that it is a derogatory term. It has nothing to do with being proud of your country.

[Nemo]

Trouble is Dan that the shortened version of the word Pakistani is extremely offensive to the people of that nation and this is supported by almost every dictionary you look in in which 100% say that it is a derogatory term. It has nothing to do with being proud of your country.
Exactly, im proud of my country but that term is offensive and mainly used as a racist term.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Trouble is Dan that the shortened version of the word Pakistani is extremely offensive to the people of that nation and this is supported by almost every dictionary you look in in which 100% say that it is a derogatory term. It has nothing to do with being proud of your country.

It is only offensive if you make it offensive.


Exactly, im proud of my country but that term is offensive and mainly used as a racist term.

As above.

[today]

It is only offensive if you make it offensive.



As above.

I agree, it shouldnt be filtered the mods/supers are here for reasons, let them deal with these threads if the word is used in a unacceptable way.

[Mr.Sam]

**** is just a shortened version of Pakistani...

"1. A slang term to describe a Pakistani or one of Pakistani descent - used in an intentionally harmless manner **if** it's between non-Pakistanis or Pakistanis themselves."

[Axel]

Double post.

[Axel]

It may be short for pakistani, but it is used as an insult. It's like how any of the swear words are swear words... because they just are. They're offensive to people. They're insulting. As is the word that has been filtered. It is used as an insult.

[dannyisnotamazing]

i bet the mod who closed it is a pakistani

R A C I S T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nemo]

i bet the mod who closed it is a pakistani

R A C I S T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!mat64 isnt pakistani..

[-:Undertaker:-]

As I have said before, It's only offensive if you make it offensive.

[J1MI]

As I have said before, It's only offensive if you make it offensive.

No it's offensive anyway you say it. It is defined as being offensive, in no way is that word acceptable to use.

http://www.answers.com/****&r=67

[Favourtism]

Some people do not mean it in a racist form however it IS often used as a racist term so it should be filtered as you cannot tell if the user is using it in that manor and it may offend users who of which live in Pakistan. Racism is a sensitive topic in the world especially now days so the best thing to do is tred carefully around the whole subject.

[WarezKid]

No it's offensive anyway you say it. It is defined as being offensive, in no way is that word acceptable to use.

http://www.answers.com/****&r=67

It blocked ^^

And always if your gonna block that word then block all the words that uses english and aremcia ;l

[Elkaa]

The word is blocked for a good reason. Having to go around and block every single word that is used as slang for another country would just be stupid, time consuming and not needed.

If you feel that a word is not on the filter and it offends you directly, send a PM to either J1MI or ---MAD--- and they'll see about it.

[GommeInc]

Isn't it a matter of what the nation think of the word, not any other nation? If Pakistani's hate the word, then it is filtered for them.

[le harry]

They are but i find it offensive as its used as a racist term

Why do you have to be so difficult?

[Nemo]

Why do you have to be so difficult?Because that racist comment has been hurled at me and in that thread it was repeatdly said in a racist way.

I do agree that thread should be reopened.

[le harry]

Because that racist comment has been hurled at me and in that thread it was repeatdly said in a racist way.

I do agree that thread should be reopened.

Oh, forgive me.

Please filter "Aussie" then, I get well offended when people call me one. :'(

[Nemo]

Oh, forgive me.

Please filter "Aussie" then, I get well offended when people call me one. :'(I shall.


Filter aussie!!

[GommeInc]

I personally think it is more offensive than a shortened way of typing and pronouncing a word. Sure Brit, Aussie, Yank aren't at all offensive, but the 4 letter work in question is often used to describe an entire continent and area, rather than a particular country or nation. But as I have stated, I have no problem with it unless people of the Pakistan nation dislike it, as it is not our right to question it.

But the thread should not of been closed anyway. It's just moderators, super moderators and admins being too lazy to their jobs, as per usual, by closing a thread when they can remove offensive posts in just the same amount of time "/

[jesus]

its like saying you cant call british people 'brits'

[GommeInc]

its like saying you cant call british people 'brits'
But when you say 'you're a Brit', it is obviously going to mean you're British. But most of the time when the 4 letter word is said, it is directed as an insult and is directed at someone who isn't from Pakistan, which is probably why loads of Pakistani's hate the word.

Also, if you want to know what words are bad and what words are not, just look at news readers and political party members. I've not heard them say the 4 letter word yet :S

EDIT: Apparently the word is actually offensive to the Pakistan nation, so in fairness it should be filtered :S It is racist to them, even though it never used to be. It's because racists took the word from them and since then they've found it racist.

[Nixt]

This was discussed before -

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=367657&highlight=pakistani

As I said then: "I really do not see why this word has been unfiltered. The term "****" is not an official abbreviation for the word "Pakistani" at all, it's simply a disparaging term that anyone of Pakistani decent generally finds offensive."

[GommeInc]

This was discussed before -

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=367657&highlight=pakistani

As I said then: "I really do not see why this word has been unfiltered. The term "****" is not an official abbreviation for the word "Pakistani" at all, it's simply a disparaging term that anyone of Pakistani decent generally finds offensive."
Actually, according to research by The Guardian, it was once a term used by Pakistani people towards Pakistani people. It was until racist people used it towards them and since then they've found it offensive when someone who isn't from Pakistan used the term towards someone from Pakistan or to describe that area of Asia.

Here is a quote which best sums this up:

"The linguistic reclamation of ****** and queer has its origins in an increased confidence and pride in black and gay culture. But even now this "flipping", as it is called, has not been totally successful. The black comedian Chris Rock can do a routine with the line "I love black people but I hate *******" but Quentin Tarantino faced widespread criticism for using the word in his films."

[Nixt]

The key part in your sentence there is "it was once". Okay, it used to be but now, in the countries that the majority of the people on this Forum come from, it is used as a racist and disparaging term.

[GommeInc]

Reading the article, it's hard to tell if they still call each other that or not. In some parts one Pakistani who talks to another Pakistani would call that Pakistani the 4 letter word.

I suppose they do still call each other that, otherwise the argument the Pakistani Businessman has put forward would be pointless. He wants to take back the word so that only Pakistani people are the only ones to use it, which is similar to the argument that some black people put forward where they only want the "N" word used by people of 'their' kind.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1155258,00.html - Link if you want to read up on it.

Anyway, I take back what I said that they once used it because judging by that article, they still use it around their own people.

[jrh2002]

I think the word is used in most parts of the world as an abbreviation but in the uk the only time I hear it used is as a racist insult :O The word gets directed at anybody from Asia who look a little like a Pakistani even if they are Indian or any other nationality over that way.
Why dont the people just say pakistani? then there would be no argument as long as the thread/post was not put accross in an offensive context.

I'm pretty sure newspapers filter the word or at least a couple of letters but thats not possible to do on here.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No it's offensive anyway you say it. It is defined as being offensive, in no way is that word acceptable to use.

http://www.answers.com/****&r=67

I don't need politically correct links to educate myself, I can think for myself thanks :) Even as you say the word Pakistan you say Páki so really let's block out the countrys name because that could offend someone.


Some people do not mean it in a racist form however it IS often used as a racist term so it should be filtered as you cannot tell if the user is using it in that manor and it may offend users who of which live in Pakistan. Racism is a sensitive topic in the world especially now days so the best thing to do is tred carefully around the whole subject.

I don't let Political Correctness get in the way of my opinions.


The word is blocked for a good reason. Having to go around and block every single word that is used as slang for another country would just be stupid, time consuming and not needed.

If you feel that a word is not on the filter and it offends you directly, send a PM to either J1MI or ---MAD--- and they'll see about it.

I don't need to PM J1MI or ---MAD--- about this, this is the Habbox Feedback forum and they should surely read from this section. I am tired of people recommending others to PM Management.

If Habbox choose to block this word, then let's block the word Brit, Aussie, Yank, German, Pom oh and while we're at that let's block out Chav, Emo, Punk, Goth and so on because calling someone who wears track suits a chav could offend them :rolleyes:

Also to the spineless moron who decided to -rep me for no reason, you are pathetic.

[Favourtism]

I don't need politically correct links to educate myself, I can think for myself thanks :) Even as you say the word Pakistan you say Páki so really let's block out the country's name because that could offend someone.



I don't let Political Correctness get in the way of my opinions.



I don't need to PM J1MI or ---MAD--- about this, this is the Habbox Feedback forum and they should surely read from this section. I am tired of people recommending others to PM Management.

If Habbox choose to block this word, then let's block the word Brit, Aussie, Yank, German, Pom oh and while we're at that let's block out Chav, Emo, Punk, Goth and so on because calling someone who wears track suits a chav could offend them :rolleyes:

Also to the spineless moron who decided to -rep me for no reason, you are pathetic.

I am sure no Brits would be offended by being called Brit. Myself being British I wouldn't. The word which is in question which is short for Pakistani IS used as a racist term no matter WHAT you say. You just cannot deny that this is a fact.
E.G.

**** Show phonetics (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?dict=CALD&key=57124&ph=on)
noun [C] OFFENSIVE
a person from Pakistan
In dictionary's it is classed as a racism term against people of the Pakistani Nation. Calling an Australian Aussie is like calling someone from Pakistan a Pakistani but the shortened version IS classed as racism and it will be until stupid racist parents stop pointing at people from Pakistani and saying the term to their kids which I have seen an unbelievable amount of times and it shouldn't be tolerated. It IS a form of bullying. It WILL be filtered as long as it is used in the world as an offensive term. GET OVER OT. Should you possess the need to label someone from whom comes from a specific nation rather than just treating them like anyone else just call them from Pakistani or something considered NOT Racist!

Regarding the PM Forum Management section I heard that nvr gets hundreds of PMs a week so for example when he comes online he has to read PMs, important threads and update permissions so perhaps this thread will come to his attention quicker so we can see one of his famous essay replies (:8) sooner.

[Nemo]

I don't need politically correct links to educate myself, I can think for myself thanks :) Even as you say the word Pakistan you say Páki so really let's block out the countrys name because that could offend someone.How can the name of a country offend someone? That makes no sense whatsoever.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I am sure no Brits would be offended by being called Brit. Myself being British I wouldn't. The word which is in question which is short for Pakistani IS used as a racist term no matter WHAT you say. You just cannot deny that this is a fact.
E.G.

In dictionary's it is classed as a racism term against people of the Pakistani Nation. Calling an Australian Aussie is like calling someone from Pakistan a Pakistani but the shortened version IS classed as racism and it will be until stupid racist parents stop pointing at people from Pakistani and saying the term to their kids which I have seen an unbelievable amount of times and it shouldn't be tolerated. It IS a form of bullying. It WILL be filtered as long as it is used in the world as an offensive term. GET OVER OT. Should you possess the need to label someone from whom comes from a specific nation rather than just treating them like anyone else just call them from Pakistani or something considered NOT Racist!

Regarding the PM Forum Management section I heard that nvr gets hundreds of PMs a week so for example when he comes online he has to read PMs, important threads and update permissions so perhaps this thread will come to his attention quicker so we can see one of his famous essay replies (:8) sooner.

The whole point of calling a nation of people 'Brit' and so on, is so it's shorter, therefore the stupid idea of 'Pakistani' won't work. It isn't a form of bullying you are deluded over this. I have just said Pakistan is one of the greatest nations in the Middle East so it isn't bullying. The only reason the word Páki became 'racist' is because of the PC brigade and people who are far too sensitive and need to grow up. Also I find it sad you are waiting for a Management member to somehow win the debate, just because they are management doesn't mean they are right no matter what their opinions are. The subject of racist is just like Global Warming, say Páki and your considered racist, say Global Warming doesn't exist then your said to have been paid by the oil companies to say it doesn't exist. This forum and the world are full of political correctness and it's brainwashed so many of you. I don't care what any dictionary says, that is what we are talking about here, whether it's racist or not and a few intelligent people realise it's not.

[GommeInc]

You're over-reacting over something you really have no need to care about. A majority of Pakistani's refuse to be called the 4 letter word because it is pretty much a racist term and the remaining amount of Pakistani people either only want to be called the 4 letter word by people who are Pakistani themselves or don't care, but the people who don't care what they are called is very low.

It's not a matter of what you think, it is what they think. They think it is a racist term most of them time, while the rest of the time they only want to be called that by their fellow Pakistanies. If you bothered reading articles you'll know why it is an 'unmentionable' word. Look at the media, the only time they use that word is when it is quoted, and most of the time it is bleeped out.

It is very similar to the common racist term which is like snigger, where only a black man/woman can call another black man/woman by that term.

So sod what you think for a change, it is up to a Pakistani member, or someone related to a Pakistani person to decide. But I can assure you that is isn't acceptable to call them that.

[Mandez]

they think its a racist term,
but alot of brits dont.

[-:Undertaker:-]

You're over-reacting over something you really have no need to care about. A majority of Pakistani's refuse to be called the 4 letter word because it is pretty much a racist term and the remaining amount of Pakistani people either only want to be called the 4 letter word by people who are Pakistani themselves or don't care, but the people who don't care what they are called is very low.

It's not a matter of what you think, it is what they think. They think it is a racist term most of them time, while the rest of the time they only want to be called that by their fellow Pakistanies. If you bothered reading articles you'll know why it is an 'unmentionable' word. Look at the media, the only time they use that word is when it is quoted, and most of the time it is bleeped out.

It is very similar to the common racist term which is like snigger, where only a black man/woman can call another black man/woman by that term.

So sod what you think for a change, it is up to a Pakistani member, or someone related to a Pakistani person to decide. But I can assure you that is isn't acceptable to call them that.


they think its a racist term,
but alot of brits dont.

My reply to GommeINC is what Mandez said, and anyway we're in Britain so we can decide what language we use.

[Favourtism]

The whole point of calling a nation of people 'Brit' and so on, is so it's shorter, therefore the stupid idea of 'Pakistani' won't work. It isn't a form of bullying you are deluded over this. I have just said Pakistan is one of the greatest nations in the Middle East so it isn't bullying. The only reason the word Páki became 'racist' is because of the PC brigade and people who are far too sensitive and need to grow up. Also I find it sad you are waiting for a Management member to somehow win the debate, just because they are management doesn't mean they are right no matter what their opinions are. The subject of racist is just like Global Warming, say Páki and your considered racist, say Global Warming doesn't exist then your said to have been paid by the oil companies to say it doesn't exist. This forum and the world are full of political correctness and it's brainwashed so many of you. I don't care what any dictionary says, that is what we are talking about here, whether it's racist or not and a few intelligent people realise it's not.

I am far from deluded I can assure you. Poeple from pakistan dislike it as they find it racsim so we should abide by their wishes! As your the intelligent people quote that is DEFINATELY not true because you beleive the same thing as them.


You're over-reacting over something you really have no need to care about. A majority of Pakistani's refuse to be called the 4 letter word because it is pretty much a racist term and the remaining amount of Pakistani people either only want to be called the 4 letter word by people who are Pakistani themselves or don't care, but the people who don't care what they are called is very low.

It's not a matter of what you think, it is what they think. They think it is a racist term most of them time, while the rest of the time they only want to be called that by their fellow Pakistanies. If you bothered reading articles you'll know why it is an 'unmentionable' word. Look at the media, the only time they use that word is when it is quoted, and most of the time it is bleeped out.

It is very similar to the common racist term which is like snigger, where only a black man/woman can call another black man/woman by that term.

So sod what you think for a change, it is up to a Pakistani member, or someone related to a Pakistani person to decide. But I can assure you that is isn't acceptable to call them that.
Yeah. Only people who be classed as that word should have the right to use that word even if it is SLIGHTLY hypocritical. If the world wasn't so racist then none of these issues would occur and the world would be a better place.

[GommeInc]

That's a stupid answer. Any racism isn't allowed, especially on a forum which is pretty much global anyway. And it's racist in the UK, a multi-cultural country anyway where it's not even mentioned by officials.

It should remain filtered.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I am far from deluded I can assure you. Poeple from pakistan dislike it as they find it racsim so we should abide by their wishes! As your the intelligent people quote that is DEFINATELY not true because you beleive the same thing as them.


Yeah. Only people who be classed as that word should have the right to use that word even if it is SLIGHTLY hypocritical. If the world wasn't so racist then none of these issues would occur and the world would be a better place.

WE ARE IN ENGLAND NOT PAKISTAN - Stop going on and on about 'their wishes', to be honest if it takes one person of Pakistani blood to ban the word Páki on this forum, then surely for example me and Mandez can object to the word 'brit' and we will have to filter that aswell. More to the point I would like that thread to be reopened please. People are offended by all sorts of things, doesn't mean the rest of us should stop using words we think are fine just because a few object.

[GommeInc]

'Brit' is harmless because it isn't ever used in an offensive way. Do you see a French man called a Brit, because he happens to live next to the UK and some idiot thinks any country in Western Europe happens to be Brit related? No, because there is next to no logic in that. But the 4 letter word you have an obsession with has been used as a racist term more times than it has been to locate where a person comes from. You get obvious Indian men and women called that word and they're not from Pakistan, it's just thick minded people showing their lack of intelligence.

As stated, people from Pakistan only wish to be called the 4 letter word by people who are from Pakistan and this excuse "we're English, not Pakistani" is stupid, ignorant and I thought better of you. British Officials never call Asian people (the reason why it is racist) or most importantly Pakistani people by that word because they know it is offensive to them. Thinking you can call them that in a multi-cultural forum and a multi-cultural country is stupid and just shows who is a snob :rolleyes:

[Favourtism]

WE ARE IN ENGLAND NOT PAKISTAN - Stop going on and on about 'their wishes', to be honest if it takes one person of Pakistani blood to ban the word Páki on this forum, then surely for example me and Mandez can object to the word 'brit' and we will have to filter that aswell. More to the point I would like that thread to be reopened please. People are offended by all sorts of things, doesn't mean the rest of us should stop using words we think are fine just because a few object.
We are in England although not EVERYONE is. It is considered racism around THE GLOBE not just on HxF by 1 member. The word should be filtered!

Don't get me wrong I disagree with the way England is run letting all the immagrants in and favouring them so they are actually being racsit to us. We should be like Australia and moniter everything with a half decent goverment. However this is irrelevant so ill stop.

The word brit is NOT considrered racist everywhere but that word is.

[-:Undertaker:-]

'Brit' is harmless because it isn't ever used in an offensive way. Do you see a French man called a Brit, because he happens to live next to the UK and some idiot thinks any country in Western Europe happens to be Brit related? No, because there is next to no logic in that. But the 4 letter word you have an obsession with has been used as a racist term more times than it has been to locate where a person comes from. You get obvious Indian men and women called that word and they're not from Pakistan, it's just thick minded people showing their lack of intelligence.

As stated, people from Pakistan only wish to be called the 4 letter word by people who are from Pakistan and this excuse "we're English, not Pakistani" is stupid, ignorant and I thought better of you. British Officials never call Asian people (the reason why it is racist) or most importantly Pakistani people by that word because they know it is offensive to them. Thinking you can call them that in a multi-cultural forum and a multi-cultural country is stupid and just shows who is a snob :rolleyes:

It isn't an excuse, it's reality that we are in Britain. If Pakistani people are fine with eachother calling themselves it then they ahve serious mental issues if they are offended by other people of other nationalitys saying it. British Officals never use the word because they are in fear of being branded racist, just as Micheal Howard got branded Raicts for just talking about immigration. All this red tape has provoken fear within British people thus the word has become to be known as a racist term when it isn't.

I am English and whether this country is multiculutral or not I can use the same word as Pakistanis use to call eachother. If Pakistanis, Indians, Polish and so on wish to be accepted in this country then they must learn to accept language that this country uses.

Also can a Admin/Super Mod reopen that thread please as that is what the whole thread is about.

[GommeInc]

It isn't an excuse, it's reality that we are in Britain. If Pakistani people are fine with eachother calling themselves it then they ahve serious mental issues if they are offended by other people of other nationalitys saying it. British Officals never use the word because they are in fear of being branded racist, just as Micheal Howard got branded Raicts for just talking about immigration. All this red tape has provoken fear within British people thus the word has become to be known as a racist term when it isn't.

I am English and whether this country is multiculutral or not I can use the same word as Pakistanis use to call eachother. If Pakistanis, Indians, Polish and so on wish to be accepted in this country then they must learn to accept language that this country uses.

Also can a Admin/Super Mod reopen that thread please as that is what the whole thread is about.
It's got something to do with their beliefs. The 4 letter word you use means "the pure" and you're not Pakistani, so you are not "the pure" therefore they feel you have no right to say it. Their beliefs, live with it, like they put up with our beliefs, if we have any that is "/

Also, those Pakistanis aren't in this country, they are in Pakistan and they use the word in this country anyway, so what you said makes no sense. We didn't invent the word, they did ages ago, when the country was probably named that "/

[Favourtism]

It isn't an excuse, it's reality that we are in Britain. If Pakistani people are fine with eachother calling themselves it then they ahve serious mental issues if they are offended by other people of other nationalitys saying it. British Officals never use the word because they are in fear of being branded racist, just as Micheal Howard got branded Raicts for just talking about immigration. All this red tape has provoken fear within British people thus the word has become to be known as a racist term when it isn't.

I am English and whether this country is multiculutral or not I can use the same word as Pakistanis use to call eachother. If Pakistanis, Indians, Polish and so on wish to be accepted in this country then they must learn to accept language that this country uses.

Also can a Admin/Super Mod reopen that thread please as that is what the whole thread is about.

I am nt racist right , I have no problem being with and seeing people from different nations however I am annoyed (thats an underexpression) regarding the immagration. HOWEVER this forum allows people from foriegn countries just as much as it does english so we should NOT INSULT them or use words considered in the world as RACIST!

[Pat McGroin]

k, if thats racist then i want brit filtered. ;| hate walking bout with ppl from other countries shouting it at me.

[the wombats]

You're over-reacting over something you really have no need to care about. A majority of Pakistani's refuse to be called the 4 letter word because it is pretty much a racist term and the remaining amount of Pakistani people either only want to be called the 4 letter word by people who are Pakistani themselves or don't care, but the people who don't care what they are called is very low.

It's not a matter of what you think, it is what they think. They think it is a racist term most of them time, while the rest of the time they only want to be called that by their fellow Pakistanies. If you bothered reading articles you'll know why it is an 'unmentionable' word. Look at the media, the only time they use that word is when it is quoted, and most of the time it is bleeped out.

It is very similar to the common racist term which is like snigger, where only a black man/woman can call another black man/woman by that term.

So sod what you think for a change, it is up to a Pakistani member, or someone related to a Pakistani person to decide. But I can assure you that is isn't acceptable to call them that.

summed it up in one line.

[Favourtism]

k, if thats racist then i want brit filtered. ;| hate walking bout with ppl from other countries shouting it at me.
Can I see a quote from the forum when someone has called you Brit in a racist way :rolleyes:

[-:Undertaker:-]

It's got something to do with their beliefs. The 4 letter word you use means "the pure" and you're not Pakistani, so you are not "the pure" therefore they feel you have no right to say it. Their beliefs, live with it, like they put up with our beliefs, if we have any that is "/

Also, those Pakistanis aren't in this country, they are in Pakistan and they use the word in this country anyway, so what you said makes no sense. We didn't invent the word, they did ages ago, when the country was probably named that "/

Actually it's the other way around, we have to put up with immigrants sponging off us, what do they have to put up with from us? Christians don't impose their beliefs on Muslims in this country or anything like that. If we are going along the 'you invented the word' then surely we should ban all foreigners using the English language?


I am nt racist right , I have no problem being with and seeing people from different nations however I am annoyed (thats an underexpression) regarding the immagration. HOWEVER this forum allows people from foriegn countries just as much as it does english so we should NOT INSULT them or use words considered in the world as RACIST!

See you have just given an example yourself of fear, I hate it when people say 'I'm not racist right' it's like they are scared of being branded racist.

[Pat McGroin]

Can I see a quote from the forum when someone has called you Brit in a racist way :rolleyes:
well seeing as u cnt walk on a forum, i thought you would of guessed i ment in rl?

[Favourtism]

Actually it's the other way around, we have to put up with immigrants sponging off us, what do they have to put up with from us? Christians don't impose their beliefs on Muslims in this country or anything like that. If we are going along the 'you invented the word' then surely we should ban all foreigners using the English language?



See you have just given an example yourself of fear, I hate it when people say 'I'm not racist right' it's like they are scared of being branded racist.

No. I am ashamed of racist people because it drags peoples opinion of britain down even more. People should be treated the same regardless of their race.


well seeing as u cnt walk on a forum, i thought you would of guessed i ment in rl?

I said called not walked?

[GommeInc]

Actually it's the other way around, we have to put up with immigrants sponging off us, what do they have to put up with from us? Christians don't impose their beliefs on Muslims in this country or anything like that. If we are going along the 'you invented the word' then surely we should ban all foreigners using the English language?
So you would happily go up to a black man and refer to them by the N word? You really are anti-social "/ I wouldn't even say immigrants are all that bad. They work for cheap and what they work for can sell whatever they create and get a good income. Not all Pakistani people don't work "/ You are seeing everything in black and white, especially by saying Christians don't impose their beliefs. You do realise there are different types of Christians? You can get extremist Christians which moan till they go blue in their face and you can get muslims which are not extremist and do alot for their community. I should know, I know a few muslim people who are actually quite friendly and disagree with extremist muslims thinking they're a bad name for muslims "/

If you see things in black and white, you're not going to get far in life. You'll be in-jail with an anti-social behaviour order in no time.

[-:Undertaker:-]

No. I am ashamed of racist people because it drags peoples opinion of britain down even more. People should be treated the same regardless of their race.



I said called not walked?

You have just completely changed what you said, you said that at the start of your writing so you wouldn't be called racist over you not agreeing with immigration, I see it all the time.



So you would happily go up to a black man and refer to them by the N word? You really are anti-social "/ I wouldn't even say immigrants are all that bad. They work for cheap and what they work for can sell whatever they create and get a good income. Not all Pakistani people don't work "/ You are seeing everything in black and white, especially by saying Christians don't impose their beliefs. You do realise there are different types of Christians? You can get extremist Christians which moan till they go blue in their face and you can get muslims which are not extremist and do alot for their community. I should know, I know a few muslim people who are actually quite friendly and disagree with extremist muslims thinking they're a bad name for muslims "/

If you see things in black and white, you're not going to get far in life. You'll be in-jail with an anti-social behaviour order in no time.


No I wouldn't go up to a Black man and say that because they are not a country, they are a race. So I wouldn't need to mention Black peopel if I were writing about countrys societys, like for example 'Brits spend £20 million a year on plants'. We are not talking about hate here, I do and would not call someone a Páki out of hate, I would use it as slang. You seem to think I hate all muslims and Pakistanis because I use one word of slang.

[Favourtism]

You have just completely changed what you said, you said that at the start of your writing so you wouldn't be called racist over you not agreeing with immigration, I see it all the time.
I am annoyed with imagration BECAUSE it is predicted soon there will be more immagrants the britsh in the coutry which contradicts the point of calling ti great britain. I treat people just the same no matter what the race but I wouldnt want ANYONE to take over.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I am annoyed with imagration BECAUSE it is predicted soon there will be more immagrants the britsh in the coutry which contradicts the point of calling ti great britain. I treat people just the same no matter what the race but I wouldnt want ANYONE to take over.

I am not disputing the fact that immigration should be stopped, infact I agree with you 100%, I am merely pointing out that you said 'I am not racist' to protect yourself.

[GommeInc]

No I wouldn't go up to a Black man and say that because they are not a country, they are a race. So I wouldn't need to mention Black peopel if I were writing about countrys societys, like for example 'Brits spend £20 million a year on plants'. We are not talking about hate here, I do and would not call someone a Páki out of hate, I would use it as slang. You seem to think I hate all muslims and Pakistanis because I use one word of slang.
Now you make no sense. The N word means a black person, not a country? You can say a 'N spend £20million a year on plants.' And black people are a type of skin tone/colour, not a race? But to a Pakistani, using the word is offensive, as I have stated. To them, and what they define it as, is only meant to be talked around them.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Now you make no sense. The N word means a black person, not a country? You can say a 'N spend £20million a year on plants.' And black people are a type of tone, not a race? But to a Pakistani, using the word is offensive, as I have stated. To them, and what they define it as, is only meant to be talked around them.

No, the N word isn't widespread slang and isn't to describe a nation of people, 'Whitey' is not the same as 'Brit'

[GommeInc]

No, the N word isn't widespread slang and isn't to describe a nation of people, 'Whitey' is not the same as 'Brit'
That's what you made it out to be "/ You said the 'N' word means a race, it means a type of person who has a dark skin tone "/ 'Race' means ethnicity which is tribe, religion etc. Not all black people are gospel singers who are a part of some unknown tribe in the middle of Africa who share the same language and came from the same country...

"No I wouldn't go up to a Black man and say that because they are not a country, they are a race."

What you said had no corellation to my previous post?

[jrh2002]

No, the N word isn't widespread slang and isn't to describe a nation of people, 'Whitey' is not the same as 'Brit'

The N word is very widespread in the black community between each other. My great grandad actually had a dog called N***** and that was because it was dark brown (N Brown was used all the time years ago) :o also see the tins of shoe pollish etc from years ago. certain words start off with good intentions but once they start being used as an insult are hard to get back from "the racists"

The P word could be used in a non offensive way in my opinion but most of the time its classed as offensive so should be filtered :o
Maybe take your argument up with the british press and ask them why they filter the word? if the press feel the need for it to be filtered then I am all for HxF doing the same.

I have an indian friend who says he hates being called the P (that is used as racist towards him) because he is insulted as hes indian and not pakistani. there is a lot of strong feelings between the 2 countries and from what I have witnessed lots of them dont have much time for each other.
Most people cant tell the difference between a pakistani and an indian anyway so when calling them a P you would be offending them.